Parler.com returns online 📦

124    15 Feb 2021 16:01 by u/rodwyer

After logging in: - Appears they were unable to restore all of their data from AWS. Only the basic user profiles information is there. No posts, images, videos, etc. - They have partnered with a new 'non-big-tech' server provider (https://www.skysilk.com/).

82 comments

55 u/dadudemon 15 Feb 2021 16:26
For how long they were offline, they could have created their own service from scratch. Why the hell did they not have any backups of their content? Were retards running Parler? Conclusion: yes.
23 u/BrainEnema 15 Feb 2021 17:01
I'm starting to suspect this is why Madze got fired; he leaned on Amazon and didn't have a backup plan.
22 u/dadudemon 15 Feb 2021 17:04
When they got the notice that they'd be shut down...they had ample time to create a backup from their AWS. They still had access. The fact that they didn't is truly indicative of how incompetent they really were/are. This doesn't take into consideration the soft warnings they got from Amazon for months leading up to the final notice. Smacks of 2 parts retardedness and 1 part laziness.
7 u/_Account_vz5 15 Feb 2021 19:39
ample time to copy terabytes of data? I dont think it was "ample" 24 hours is not ample to copy terabytes.
7 u/47RX6h 15 Feb 2021 20:26
It's funny considering there's leaks of all its users data that was easily grabbed before hand. The data is literally out there public now.
2 u/_Account_vz5 15 Feb 2021 20:40
Using API's sure. But from the time of notice to time of shutdown there was no way. However they should have had this shit backed up already and its clear their CEO is a fuckwit.
19 u/dadudemon 15 Feb 2021 20:41
Yes, more than ample time. I ran a software shop with "terabytes" of data, in AWS. Took 3 hours. You have snapshots already setup in AWS. Built into the basics of the service offering. See here: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/UserGuide/USER_CopySnapshot.html This was truly epic levels of incompetence on their part.
1 u/_Account_vz5 15 Feb 2021 20:51
So you are saying they chose to let it go offline? I don't think thats true unless it was a honeypot by the feds from the very beginning.
3 u/dadudemon 16 Feb 2021 03:50
>So you are saying they chose to let it go offline? Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. They shit the bed. Plain and simple. Didn't think 3 days ahead. Just the here and now. "We can put a halt to this! Get the lawyers!" Instead of, "Needed to have done Business Continuity Planning because this shit happens all the time to conservative voices." Read the history of Parler to see what I am talking about. Just gross incompetence and absurd levels of arrogance.
4 u/Ephialtes 15 Feb 2021 17:50
I heard he also wanted to bend the knee to them and implement censorship measures
7 u/marvin_nash 15 Feb 2021 18:08
I heard this on the Dan Bongino show. If you don't know, Bongino owns a chunk of Parler. He said after they were shut down, Matze was spreading lies like he always wanted to ban the Q-Anon people but others wouldn't listen. And Matze was also warned multiple times it was a bad idea to do business with AWS but never listened to the other stakeholders and never had a plan B.
4 u/Tenient 15 Feb 2021 18:03
Retards are still running parler
3 u/deauthorize 15 Feb 2021 18:16
wordpress go brrrrr
38 u/jBoi76 15 Feb 2021 16:45
Oh look guys, that obvious honeypot is back online. Just use Gab or whatever
21 u/lenn_king 15 Feb 2021 17:26
Definitely. They let feds get gps coordinates of videos and pictures, and mainstream conservatives only promoted Parler, never Gab
6 u/IsraelDid911 16 Feb 2021 03:34
> mainstream conservatives only promoted Parler, never Gab Yep tells you all you need to know. Replace "mainstream conservatives" with sold-out traitors, and it makes perfect sense it was a trap. Gab has proven itself by having an owner who is insanely based, and no backing from the Mercers.
7 u/Czescwitamy 15 Feb 2021 21:16
What is a honeypot?
8 u/jBoi76 15 Feb 2021 21:30
So it's basically a program, platform, ect. usually launched by some kind of government organization (think CIA, FBI, ect.) Which aims to collect information on people. A honeypot might be for example an illegal marketplace on the dark web set up to catch people who use it and turn them in to the police, or a poorly secured website used to catch hackers. IMO Parler is a honeypot, because to sign up for parler you have to give your phone number, which then makes it possible to identify you very easily by the gov. It also started becoming big around the time conservatives started being banned from social media, questioning the US election results, talking about protesting, ect. So when you put 2+2 together: + Convenient timing around the peak of protests + requiring a phone number to set up (easy ID) + choosing amazon as a host for a conservative social media platform + going offline for like over a month = quite a convenient way to get a lot of info about the population and process/store it while disguising it as a ban.
2 u/doliu 16 Feb 2021 02:40
Plenty of conjecture there, but what evidence is there?
2 u/jBoi76 16 Feb 2021 07:05
Well, I don't really have any hard evidence, but the whole thing seems just.. off. Idk, something in my gut tells me to stay as far away from it as possible. Also, there's the fact that from what I see pretty much all US conservatives are promoting parler exclusively, and I'm automatically suspicious of stuff that gets promoted by mainstream celebrities and politicians. Nobody needs to use Parler, and IMO they should stay clear of it for at least a month.
2 u/ChainsawSaint 16 Feb 2021 15:59
I'm not all that behind it being a fed honeypot, but I don't see a big reason it's not. https://www.newsweek.com/parler-reportedly-backed-mercers-same-family-that-funded-cambridge-analytica-1547519 Also, a site that can't spin up hosting elsewhere, but has enough know-how to not accept numbers from temp SMS sites? Doesn't pass my sniff test.
27 u/Wingo 15 Feb 2021 17:31
Parler’s not going to recover. Gab and Ruqqus seem to be the way to go.
20 u/ijuliank 15 Feb 2021 18:44
ruqqus will be kicked also if they get too populair because its on amazon
10 u/fruitybrisket 15 Feb 2021 19:12
God I hope not. Gab and Parler and the .wins are a bit too crazy for me. This place is just free speech, not emotionally-driven hate speech(usually).
7 u/F1GM3NT 15 Feb 2021 19:30
You can follow others on Gab that have similar views and there are groups based on a range of interests and hobbies. There has been a huge influx of new users over the last few months.
5 u/Bilaset 15 Feb 2021 23:26
Honestly Ruqqus has more 'hate speech' in the 'based' meme subs than Gab, Parler, or .wins
4 u/None 16 Feb 2021 02:07
this is a fact and fucking annoying. i'm less worried about the shenanigans of that guild tho, cause ATM they're "wannabe authoritarians' while the SJW and MSM types have become actual 'practicing authoritarians'. it wont stop the guilt by association logical fallacies sadly. If you support freedom of speech at all, be it left or right, you will eventually be 'erased' by one extreme or the other and i'm unsure of how to resolve that problem since balance/centrism is doomed to impermanence.
3 u/FaustAlexander 16 Feb 2021 00:53
I just fear Ruqqus closes. I'm not seeing an increase in userbase unless we get more Reddit banwaves.
1 u/IsraelDid911 16 Feb 2021 03:37
I don't see much hate speech on Gab. It's a lot of QAnon kind of conservatives, boomers as well, but they are not all a bunch of hate mongers.
14 u/Wingo 15 Feb 2021 19:31
True, but at least the Ruqqus developers are competent.
2 u/IsraelDid911 16 Feb 2021 03:38
Ruqqus can handle being kicked off. The devs are smart enough to make regular backups of data and they are watching what is happening. Starting over is as simple as signing up for a smaller hosting service or like Gab self-hosting and pushing off code.
18 u/wuzizname 15 Feb 2021 17:08
Honeypot 2.0, sign up for a free account! Make sure to include your real name and address.
4 u/NitroglycerinLtd 15 Feb 2021 17:17
It was phone number. Do you want the site to be flooded with troll bots or what?
7 u/None 15 Feb 2021 18:22
cant they just add captcha instead of phone number? wouldnt that prevent bots?
7 u/F1GM3NT 15 Feb 2021 19:23
It would make it more difficult for bots, but that alone is not a perfect solution. I’ve heard of bots that relay the captcha to people in third world countries that are paid to solve thousands of captchas every day.
6 u/HelloBoots 15 Feb 2021 19:32
Imagine that being your life's profession.
3 u/Pooper 15 Feb 2021 22:16
Lmao fucking indians
3 u/BV141 15 Feb 2021 20:56
Similar places have access to hundreds if not thousands of phone numbers to make scam calls. Plus there are markets for buying/selling social media accounts.
10 u/NWOBHM 15 Feb 2021 16:34
I wonder if anyone will still care.
10 u/deauthorize 15 Feb 2021 17:01
a 12 year old could probably manage a website better than parlers code monkeys
9 u/sigilstone17 15 Feb 2021 16:13
>This site can't be reached I was gonna make a joke asking how long they'd stay up but, goddamn, that was quick
7 u/Ryaniskira 15 Feb 2021 16:24
It's working on my end.
6 u/sigilstone17 15 Feb 2021 16:25
Then I guess they just *really* don't want vpns connecting to their site (I use Proton)
1 u/ijuliank 15 Feb 2021 18:38
nah, not working on normal connection also
1 u/IGotAGoodUsername 15 Feb 2021 20:22
Works for me on Opera VPN
8 u/None 15 Feb 2021 16:07
Hopefully they gain the traction they had, but something tells me they will have difficulty breaking into the market.
7 u/None 15 Feb 2021 17:43
Convenient that it's back the next business day after impeachment 2.0.
3 u/BV141 15 Feb 2021 20:59
It's a federal holiday actually.
2 u/None 15 Feb 2021 22:47
I'm just really glad you're focusing on the important part of that comment.
7 u/outragedSurveyor 15 Feb 2021 19:10
I can't understand why no one is using Mastodon. They should create their own instance
2 u/_Ajax 15 Feb 2021 21:09
That's what gab started out as, but, as I understand, they got blocked early on from federating with mastodon.social which is the biggest mastodon server.
3 u/outragedSurveyor 15 Feb 2021 23:29
yeah, the most known instances are pretty leftist. That's why i think they should create their own instance, so they could set their own rules without getting banned by anyone; the only thing other instances (like mastodon.social or mastodon.online) could do, is kind of shadowbanning them from their feed, but you could still see their content if you actively follow them. (i hope you could understand what i tried to say and sorry for any grammar mistake)
3 u/_Ajax 16 Feb 2021 01:05
I think what you're describing is the way gab worked for a long time. It federated with mastodon. They probably stopped supporting federation because most servers blocked them.
3 u/outragedSurveyor 16 Feb 2021 04:26
Oh i didn't know they were federated (i didn't use gab), but there is no point in giving up with mastodon. I mean, if they make their own site, people should have to enter there to watch it; in mastodon, even people from instances where Gab is blocked could watch their content if they follow them (and people could sign up on their instance just as they would do on a website). That's why i think mastadon is cool: instances could block you from their feed, but you can still run your server freely with your own rules (as long as you don't post anything illegal like child pornography)
3 u/doliu 16 Feb 2021 02:42
They were blocked by some other instances, but far from all of them. They weren't chased off the fedi, they left.
6 u/Ephialtes 15 Feb 2021 17:49
Without John Matze?
9 u/marvin_nash 15 Feb 2021 18:10
He's fired. Not sure who is running in now? Seems shady
8 u/NitroglycerinLtd 15 Feb 2021 18:36
So does Matze.
1 u/marvin_nash 15 Feb 2021 19:43
> Matze Can't argue w/ that point
1 u/Ephialtes 16 Feb 2021 12:06
What shady stuff has he done?
2 u/NitroglycerinLtd 16 Feb 2021 22:42
It's been said by other directors that he lied about the decisions he made that contributed to Parler being knocked offline.
5 u/ManInTheMiddle 15 Feb 2021 16:24
Works for me, but all posts are gone.
5 u/ijuliank 15 Feb 2021 18:50
but parler is fucking stupid, they are hosting on a MS azure resell.. https://twitter.com/GreggHoush/status/1361359393221148674?s=20
4 u/libertarianets 15 Feb 2021 17:10
Mobile app doesn’t seem to work
1 u/selim 16 Feb 2021 08:00
Parler needs to upgrade the app for the new site. Since it is deplatformed from Google and Apple, the normal upgrade doesn't work anymore. Mobile user may just pin a website link in the home screen.
2 u/None 16 Feb 2021 08:15
Because mobile app keeps calling the old AWS endpoints
2 u/libertarianets 16 Feb 2021 13:48
Wow. The fact that they didn't put endpoints pointing to their own domain originally tells you how shit their engineering team is.
4 u/tom9152 15 Feb 2021 17:24
Technical Difficulties
4 u/owlie 15 Feb 2021 19:32
I hope people reconnect with people on parler who followed them or they followed and then migrate to something better like Gab
4 u/None 15 Feb 2021 22:06
I’ve already switched to Gab and like it better. More refined platform and there’s actual funny accounts
2 u/TrumpisStillYourPresidnet 15 Feb 2021 16:06
Trump join Parler NOW
19 u/tom9152 15 Feb 2021 17:23
Trump should join gab
6 u/Dissident001 15 Feb 2021 18:30
Trump should join the army
6 u/sigilstone17 15 Feb 2021 18:36
Trump should join the Space Force
4 u/Person106 15 Feb 2021 19:29
Trump should join Rogue Squadron
1 u/refracktor 15 Feb 2021 19:07
who cares?
1 u/JadeMonkey 15 Feb 2021 19:13
No thanks. The link to Cambridge Analytica should have been enough to scare people off the first time around.
1 u/XakwithanX 16 Feb 2021 02:22
Don't have much interest in going back now, but it's still a better platform for free speech than MSM
1 u/doliu 16 Feb 2021 02:50
The fediverse is a far more robust free speech solution for social media than Parler, Gab or any other centralised platform. Parler and Gab will only be all about free speech as long as it suits them, all it takes is a change of heart or leadership to turn their heel on that promise. Twitter and Reddit both made the same promises in their early days. With the fediverse, that freedom is systemic, nobody can override it.
1 u/alejandro 16 Feb 2021 07:29
they ask for email and phone number? no , thanks... honey pot
1 u/None 16 Feb 2021 16:45
It's a 'honey pot', a trap. Parler demands a real phone number and won't allow a VoIP (i tired 2). After sign up, you either must or only in some cases must, give an ID. This is crappy. Don't trust it.