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I figured Apple gave them the backdoor, but the deal was to go on TV and say that they refused because they care so much about their customers safety. Make it a giant puff piece about Apples security. There's ALWAYS a backdoor.
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I can't see that being true, backdoors are massive vulnerabilities that can be exploited by anyone, there's no such thing as a secret backdoor only accessible to people that have the right password.
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According to the leaked slides, the PRISM program (mid 2000s) grants "Special Requests" among other information to the NSA, FBI.. etc. Apple being part of the program among most other big name tech providers. I encourage you all to read the slides of the program. https://www.theverge.com/2013/6/6/4403868/nsa-fbi-mine-data-apple-google-facebook-microsoft-others-prism God Bless America!
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There was no intentional backdoor, iOS is just insecure as fuck. No joke security brokers will barely pay for iOS exploits anymore because the market is so flooded with them.
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Doubt
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https://www.theregister.com/2020/05/14/zerodium_ios_flaws/
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That's interesting! I have a few iphones that are icloud locked, wonder if I can unlock them somehow.
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You can, you'd need an SMD rework station though because you have to remove the storage, write a new serial number to it, and resolder it back.
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Web browser exploit again - so many system's security has fallen recently due to web browser exploits (the PS4, Wii and now iPhone all come to mind)
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Spoiler: the govt has Linux backdoors
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How? How could they sneak a backdoor into Linux code that is open sourced? You think everyone who contibutes to the Linux code bases wouldn't notice? You think Torvalds wouldn't flip his fucking lid?
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The NSA contributed SELinux you know. Back doors can be obscured by skilled programmers
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Mmmm.... I dunno dude you know how many really autistic people watch and contribute to linux distro code? I don't know how something as serious as a master-key backdoor could be "obscured" from code pulled and compiled from publicly viewed repositories. And what do you mean by "linux"? Do you mean arch, mint, ubuntu, fedora, bodhi...? Oris it at the kernal level? If it's at the kernal level then for sure Torvalds would need to be on board and I serious doubt Torvalds would tell the NSA it's cool for them to have the keys to some back gate to his kingdom.
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> Oris it at the kernal level? Its in the kernel
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proof?
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https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/security/selinux
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Is that boot loader shit?
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Nope. bootlin.com has the whole browsable kernel source tree online
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OpenSSL was backdoored for months (Debian weak RNG). Heartbleed was out for 2 years and while you can’t prove it was a back door, you also can’t prove it wasn’t… and provides fodder that autists can’t save everyone. The RNG in the CPU was backdoored by the NSA (Dual_EC_DRBG) and was a “trusted standard” for 7 years. Also read https://users.ece.cmu.edu/~ganger/712.fall02/papers/p761-thompson.pdf. Computers aren’t trustable.
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Half of the NSA is dedicated to securing systems, it's the other half that tries to break them. SELinux is actually a good tool. It's a little too complicated (OpenBSD's pledge and unveil are simpler) but that makes sense when you consider that they were trying to help secure all possible forms of complex corporate and government junk. The NSA can afford to put together helpful tools like SELinux because there is no shortage of other vulnerabilities to exploit, including at the hardware level.
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iOS is Unix based (Darwin) not GNU/Linux based.
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And the reason it is announced, is because it has been fixed. If this vulnerability had not been fixed, it wouldn't have been announced.
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![](https://media.giphy.com/media/o0vwzuFwCGAFO/100w.gif)
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If figures cucked Aussies were to blame. When are we going to put some daylight between the West and Australia? These people are obviously not the same as us.
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Wut
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Austrailia isn't real.