Macbooks are the worst laptops that you can buy.

13    16 Apr 2021 23:18 by u/Imperator

M1 is so fast and efficient yada yada. That's good but when you are buying a car do you also look at only the top speed and nothing else? The macbooks don't have any USB-A ports. Seriously, how am I supposed to connect my mouse or phone to it. I don't even have any devices that use USB-C. Let's update the firmware on my router, oh I can't because it doesn't have ethernet port. Let's work on larger external monitor, shit I can't because it doesn't have HDMI or Display port. Let's watch a movie I have on DVD or Bluray, damn I can't because it has no optical drive. And fuck you and your dongles. If I pay 3000 euros for a laptop I expect to have all the ports. If I paid 250 euros than I can't complain but Apple is just taking a piss. Now comes the worst part. Soldering RAM and SSD onto the motherboard is just criminal. You do realize that these things go bad and need to be replaced at some point or upgraded to larger capacities. Imagine that car mechanic says your brake pads are worn out. Now you need to buy a new car. You would most certainly lose your shit but then you expect others to gobble this up as the pinnacle of engineering. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7LOljirF6g

22 comments

6 u/None 16 Apr 2021 23:37
I work in IT, and my hatred for people who insist on using Macs in an otherwise Windows work environment runs deep. It's always the worst of the speshul snowflakes who kick and cry and get their manager involved to put in the special "Mac request", just so they can load up a fucking Windows virtual machine anyway... And consistently, they're our most oblivious and high maintenance users as well.
4 u/WinstonThe9th 16 Apr 2021 23:36
That's the point though. Mac doesn't want you to play with their shit. Mac also expects you to pay to extend the functionality of your computer with dongles. Mac is intended for 2 kinds of people. People who are very rich. The kind of people who get someone to change a light bulb for them. The kind of people who go all in on the idea of planned obsolescence and don't care about buying a $90 hdmi adapter. People who want to look cool while using whatever the mac version of photoshop is. I'm not saying that these two types of necessarily lack computer skills, but they have other motivating factors for buying a laptop beyond hardware functionality.
-1 u/None 17 Apr 2021 01:27
My macbook has 4 usb-c ports on 2 different controllers. If one port dies, I have three more. If a dongle dies, I throw it over my shoulder. Explain this “lack of ports” thing to me again.
1 u/WinstonThe9th 17 Apr 2021 06:08
Yeah I've switched what I can to USB-c it's faster and it's what everything is going to be eventually anyway. Mine has 1usb-c /2 usb3 1usb 2. If you don't have all shiny new toys though you will still have to use normal USB ports or get adapters.
-1 u/None 17 Apr 2021 02:40
Every software dev I know uses Mac as well. What idiots like the Op don't understand is that UX sells and has a price. Windows laptops are catching up, but guess what? They're few and far between, and the few that are getting near Mac hardware wise cost around as much as a Mac.
4 u/VILLAIN 17 Apr 2021 04:52
Windows laptops are catching up to Mac hardware wise? What planet am I on isn’t AMD 5000 mobile series the best currently? For years laptops with better hardware than Macs existed.
0 u/None 17 Apr 2021 05:04
Hardware =/= performance parts. Track pads, build quality, industrial design. Windows laptops still don't have a match to the Apple trackpad. Close, but no cigar. Don't even get me started on the UX, they're still worlds apart. Yeah, if you're buying a laptop purely on spec performance, probably don't go Apple. If you actually care about how it is to use, Apple is a very heavy contender. FWIW, I don't use Apple products.
1 u/Imperator [OP] 17 Apr 2021 11:31
Normal people who are not masochists use mice and don't give a shit about GUI.
1 u/None 17 Apr 2021 18:14
That's where you're wrong, kiddo. Many, many people use the trackpad; especially while *mobile*, aka the only reason to get a laptop. You must be an engineer, user interface and experience can make or break products.
1 u/VILLAIN 17 Apr 2021 14:01
Completely agree that non Macbooks don't have good trackpads but I heard Chromebooks are good in that regard and they run Gentoo iirc.
4 u/WinstonThe9th 17 Apr 2021 06:03
System 76 for the win ;) Hmm most developers I know use Linux. I know a few front end webdevs who use Mac. I also don't live in the states. Mac is far less common in other counties.
1 u/None 17 Apr 2021 07:18
It depends what you're developing for afaik, but it could be just the few companies / groups I've worked for / with. I know android devs, generally speaking seem to like mac because "it just works". I'm also told that the coding environments just "work better" on mac. Weird but w/e. Coding is not my thing, every time I start it I want to kill myself.
1 u/Imperator [OP] 17 Apr 2021 10:47
UX does not matter. The only reason why some developers use macs is because Apple has a closed ecosystem that requires it. All developers I have met use Linux or Windows. In the company I worked for there was one iMac that was rarely used for the very reason I explained. Windows laptops are always more cost effective than Macs, everybody knows this. I just checked apple's website and compared one of their i7 macbooks to Asus ROG Strix G15 with same specs. The only difference is that Asus has more powerful GPU. And yet it costs £300 less.
0 u/None 17 Apr 2021 18:15
UX matters insanely. No, devs who use macs don't use them "because they're locked into it". Unless you think developing things for non Apple systems is somehow closed in the apple ecosystem? Weird take but you do you. You make shit products bro.
2 u/_ueno 17 Apr 2021 04:40
All apple products are dogshit. Unfortunately I'm still gonna buy a macbook as I am a developer and the ecosystem is closed. Sucks to suck
1 u/WinstonThe9th 17 Apr 2021 06:10
Yeah that's how they get you. Samsung and Google both wish they could pull the same shit.
2 u/ruqs_user 17 Apr 2021 11:05
Apple is for isheep's. Never been fan of any apple products. Also Apple is only known for it's status symbol.
-2 u/None 17 Apr 2021 02:38
Oh hey, op is retarded.
-4 u/None 17 Apr 2021 01:24
Yawn. Another poor complaining that professional equipment costs too much. First, you don’t need all that trash on the side of your laptop. I have one usb-c that powers the macbook and runs the display. One cable. If that port dies, I have 3 more. Second, everything works without having to fuck with it. No drivers, no reboots, no bullshit. You plug things in and they work without any extra shit. Third, it’s a professional computer. It’s what pros in almost every creative industry use. The reason is, there is one environment and the number of things that could be different is small. Everyone has the same hardware and everyone’s software environment is the same. Last, it’s the fastest thing you can buy. Apple has been sucking ass with intel chips, but now that they make their own stuff, everyone else is playing catchup. You aren’t clever or original talking shit about computers you know nothing about, you’re just another outsider flinging shit from your hill of ignorance. Windows is garbage, Linux is for autists or poors, and Mac is for people that are paid to use their brain. Being mad about it won’t change that.
3 u/VILLAIN 17 Apr 2021 04:53
People who built super computers and servers couldn’t afford to run macOS which is why they all run Linux.
1 u/Imperator [OP] 17 Apr 2021 11:30
>Second, everything works without having to fuck with it. No drivers, no reboots, no bullshit. You plug things in and they work without any extra shit. Yeah you plug in the "wrong" dongle and the fucking thing dies. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252244260 You bring it to apple store and they tell you to go fuck yourself. https://www.reddit.com/r/macbook/comments/k359t1/new_macbook_air_m1_died_seems_bricked/ Yeah this is totally professional equipment for professional idiots like you. The ARM chip is faster in single-core tests only. In multi-core workloads the Ryzen still wins. https://www.laptopmedia.com/comparisons/preliminary-amd-ryzen-9-5900h-vs-apple-m1-the-m1-wins-in-single-core-by-11-but-the-ryzen-9-is-25-better-in-multi-core/ Mac users are the most technically incompetent demographic of people and you have proved this with your comment.
0 u/None 17 Apr 2021 12:17
One fucking rando doesn’t prove anything. Typical apple hater bullshit, find one comment by one random retard and base your whole argument on it. You complain that I’m incompetent, but you do the laziest research, which means you’re either incompetent or a moron or both, probably both. It takes a fucking idiot to spend MBP money and them plug it into an amazon special hub mixing and matching with Apple gear. Nothing like plugging a $2k laptop into a $30 hub so you could save a little money. Typical retard user that has nothing to do with Apple.