Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

78    31 Jul 2021 07:15 by u/None

36 comments

46 u/None [OP] 31 Jul 2021 08:36
Get woke go broke.
11 u/None [OP] 31 Jul 2021 16:56
More like, forget about the users and developers, and suddenly you'll have neither. When they announced they were focusing on finding new revenue streams, dropping developer focus, and mandatorily tweaking the UI... I just felt disappointed. Now the browser is slowly losing its stability, using brute-force UI design, and of course the 'free and open where we approve it' nonsense, they'll slowly go the way of the dodo.
30 u/Boardallday420 31 Jul 2021 07:38
Firefox is the big gay
38 u/asdf 31 Jul 2021 08:53
It sucks because I'd love for there to be a valid alternative to chromium based browsers. And even their SJW doesn't doesn't matter that much to me as long as it doesn't affect the browser at all. But seeing them advocate for censorship and deplatforming? Yeah, no thanks.
14 u/BigDoode 31 Jul 2021 11:14
It's a great browser for the most part, but the Mozilla org is terrible.
3 u/ZippyTheFox 31 Jul 2021 21:35
It was until the current UI update. Now it runs like crap. Why didn't they keep the Quantum UI? It ran great!
2 u/Topcode 01 Aug 2021 23:25
Facts, I don’t mind performance issues cause my pc is in no means bad, but it’s just looks bad.
2 u/ZippyTheFox 02 Aug 2021 00:57
I have a 4th gen i5 and Firefox still runs like ass. I know that's a pretty old CPU, but the fact that it can still handle modern AAA games but can't run fucking Firefox tells me it's not my hardware at fault here.
29 u/DJ_Zephyr 31 Jul 2021 08:00
After they gave him the boot, Brendan Eich made a better browser- Brave. I'm personally a Vivaldi fan, but Brave does seem to have a more effective ad-blocker on mobile. Both are pretty good on desktop, tho.
10 u/None [OP] 31 Jul 2021 12:20
Brave doesn't have extensions on Android. Firefox's uBlock Origin is more effective than Brave's built-in adblocker; with Brave, I sometimes get ads on mainstream websites like YouTube, and even debilitating popups and redirects on certain obscure sites. Firefox lets you add a custom search engine, so ironically I got to try out Brave Search there before Brave made it available on Android. There was also the issue of Brave not hiding my navigation bar when viewing a video full-screen, which didn't happen in Firefox.
5 u/None [OP] 31 Jul 2021 14:36
you can use newpipe on android
3 u/Nerd_516 31 Jul 2021 15:58
we arent talking bout privacy use vanced for ad free
1 u/NWOBHM 31 Jul 2021 18:15
Yeah I tried Brave and Firefox is still the better browser.
2 u/Nerd_516 03 Aug 2021 10:08
if u like firefox try librewolf
18 u/fsninetwo 31 Jul 2021 07:58
Serve them right. These fuckers deserve to be bankrupt after all these things they did in 2020.
7 u/None [OP] 31 Jul 2021 09:44
Good!
6 u/None [OP] 31 Jul 2021 12:15
I had switched to brave even before they started preaching woke bullshit.
-3 u/Nerd_516 31 Jul 2021 15:58
brave isnt any better imo
6 u/None [OP] 31 Jul 2021 15:01
Mozilla borderline breaks their mission statement for a free and open web (in ideal not action.. yet), Users abandon Mozilla, no surprise. I'm 'mostly' off of Mozilla though I'm posting this from firefox >.< I'm 'mostly' on brave except for on MacOS... firefox is MUCH MUCH faster on Mac than it is on Windows. and i use it on my iphone and oneplus though i've been using Tor More and more. And I use thunderbird for mail... So here is a question someone might be able to answer... Best mail client that can get multiple accounts in a decent UI? I'm redoing my windows pc in the nearish future and If i don't find one I may get MS office 19.
5 u/deauthorize 31 Jul 2021 08:23
Firecox
5 u/_Ruq_ 31 Jul 2021 14:32
I'm using Vivaldi now. Maybe not the best choice but it has the best UI which makes it easy for me to be more effective in my work.
6 u/Nerd_516 31 Jul 2021 15:59
maybe try out librewolf its like firefox but more ungoogled and more privacy oriented
4 u/Nerd_516 31 Jul 2021 15:57
like they should use libre wolf best private browser based of firefox
4 u/ruqs_user 01 Aug 2021 03:27
All the users went to **Brave**
3 u/LordZedd 31 Jul 2021 23:11
Brave is good, I also use Gab's Dissenter browser
2 u/Imperator 31 Jul 2021 17:05
They are not losing users just because Mozilla is run by woke idiots. In order to use Firefox people need to make a conscious decision to install it because it doesn't come pre-installed on any device. All Android phones come with Chrome pre-installed. All Windows machines come with Edge pre-installed. All OSX machines come with Safari pre-installed. Most people never change any settings or make decision to use a different program when there is one that already does the same job. They just use the device in its default configuration. Mozilla doesn't sell any hardware devices where Firefox could be set as a default browser. There were some tablets with FF OS but Mozilla killed the project long time ago.
-1 u/BigDoode 31 Jul 2021 11:20
Firefox is a great browser for the technically inclined, but it doesn't offer anything other over Chromium and it doesn't have google integrated, so it's loosing. Brave is [shady as fuck](https://ebin.city/%7Ewerwolf/posts/brave-is-shit/) and Firefox is the better browser for privacy if you care enough to open the advanced settings. I'm ready for the downvotes.
9 u/9up9999 31 Jul 2021 11:56
There are few issues with browser itself besides the mozilla foundation. Android Removed about:config from stable version. Can't disable telemetry. Still no pull to refresh. Takes decades for them... Few addons support at the moment. No way to remove pocket. Opt out not opt in sudies/telemetry. Some websites displays incorrectly. And more... PC Stupid regular design changes and removal of useful features. Remove of pwa support. Can't remove pocket only disable for this moment And more... Just a few issues from my heads besides ignoring community.
1 u/NWOBHM 31 Jul 2021 18:30
On Android you can install NoScript and uBlock which are more important, the ability to hide and block hover windows trumps anything Brave can do.
7 u/None [OP] 31 Jul 2021 12:21
Brave is far superior for the technically inclined. Tampermonkey and numerous other powerful script blocking extensions that I run give brave so many levels of added manipulation that to it's security policies and how it loads paged and transfers data that Firefox didn't support. Plus it's more efficient of a browser and you can run "morally questionable" extensions like dissenter. Or you could before that was abandoned. Point is that if you are willing to delve into the same amount of under the hood tweaks as you at least should have on Firefox then brave has all that and then some.
4 u/Nerd_516 31 Jul 2021 16:00
imo if u like firefox use librewolf
1 u/NWOBHM 31 Jul 2021 18:28
You can use Tampermonkey and sideload extensions in Firefox too.
4 u/BigDoode 31 Jul 2021 21:45
Hate to break it to you but tamper monkey/grease monkey/violent monkey all work for firefox too. More efficient? Maybe. Doesn't matter unless your computer is a potato. You have a point with the extensions, I'll admit that. AFAIK only firefox has container tabs which are a great privacy tool especially when combined with an extension like temporary container tabs. Brave is chromium - you can never entirely get the spyware out. It makes requests to google services etc.
1 u/NWOBHM 31 Jul 2021 18:27
People have this knee jerk reaction that Brave is better, despite Firefox being more customizable and controllable (especially on mobile version). They really think they are teaching Mozilla a lesson by not using their free browser lol, even if it's technically superior and they are shooting themselves in the foot, they don't give a fuck as long as they get to feel like they pwned the libs