Rogue mod in /r/worldnews

15    30 May 2023 00:51 by u/PorQueNoTuMama

It seems that /r/worldnews has a rogue mod. I was posting on a thread about the plan to release contaminated water from the fukushima nuclear facilty: - https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/13v31eq/85_of_koreans_oppose_japans_plan_to_dump/ When out of the blue comes a message that I've been permabanned. The only reasoning provided is the single word "troll". - Message here: https://ibb.co/56Y2dcv Note that there's no information othe rthan "troll", no indication of which post qualifies for "trolling". And note how they've jumped straight to a permaban, not a warning or a temp ban, just a straight permaban based on a single word "troll". I'm nonplused as I've been providing academic peer reviewed papers to back my comments, whereas the people I'm responding to simply say things, that are incorrect and intended to mislead mind you, without backing them up. Obviously the reporting system has been abused, right? So of course I question it - https://ibb.co/rQhvwm0 For reference the three posts I linked to in the message are: - https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/13v31eq/85_of_koreans_oppose_japans_plan_to_dump/jm4nbmv/ - https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/13v31eq/85_of_koreans_oppose_japans_plan_to_dump/jm4o01d/ - https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/13v31eq/85_of_koreans_oppose_japans_plan_to_dump/jm4rcel/ They were all summarizing or responding to malicious comments. Unfortunately the japanese comment brigades are very active on reddit, the pattern they follow is a very well known one as I summarized in the post here: - https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/13v31eq/85_of_koreans_oppose_japans_plan_to_dump/jm4omn2/ Note that I again provided evidence of how the japanese propaganda machine works. Push and repeat simple messages, silence opposition and create an echo chamber for the messaging. Exactly what's happened in that post. The response is simply "You broke the sub's rules". And "we have the final say" - https://ibb.co/pLgxFp3 Of course that simply begs more questions. How is providing peer reviewed evidence "breaking the subs rules"? How does that merit a permaban? This is odd to say the least. I feel forced to point out that providing evidence isn't trolling in any sense of the word, it's the people I'm responding to that are "trolling" if we have to use the word. Isn't the point of a subreddit like worldnews to be informative? What's more informative than providing peer reviewed papers? And also, the reporting system isn't there to be a tool for censorship. But the response leaves things as clear as mud. "This is not a debate. There is nothing further to discuss" - https://ibb.co/2dRkXRG I understand that modding is difficult and thankless, mistakes happen, and people get overloaded. But that type of response is simply tantamount to "we want to shut you up and we don't care how". I can't for the life of me believe that the mod team as a whole want /r/worldnews to be a cesspit of propaganda where anybody providing evidence gets banned if it goes counter to the narrative that's being pushed by the comment brigades. - https://ibb.co/YfSMNtJ But of course you get the inevitable muting - https://ibb.co/fDfL9BX Like I said in my message to the mods, if you're volunteering for something you're donig it because you feel passionately and principled about. I'd imagine that the majority of mods on that subreddit mod because they want people to be informed and to share information. I refuse to believe that the mod team as a whole has sold out to the propaganda brigades. It must be a single mod going rogue and as you can see from their responses they're blatantly abusing their powers for the purpose of silencing evidence. Let's be perfectly clear, the japanese comment brigades are very active on that subreddit, keep an eye on posts about japan and you'll clearly see the pattern that Pat Choate spoke about, but It would be a deep shame if things had gotten so bad that the mod team has been infiltrated by them and the modding system is being abused to silence people providing evidence that runs against their narrative. Leaving such people in position where they can abuse their authority would soon start to reflect badly on the rest of the team and as the saying goes "a rotten apple spoils the whole barrel". A spoiled mod will be involved in choosing new mods, and soon enough you've got so many of them that the entire team becomes rotten.

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I kind of feel bad that you posted such a detailed and compelling account of what happened to you, because the fact is that the sub has a LOT more than just one "rogue" mod, and is predicated on pushing a narrative, uninterested in discussion, diversity of thought, or anything that might make them uncomfortable in their self-assured moral and intellectual superiority. "Sacrilege" can not be tolerated, no matter how well reviewed. You posted information that they can not digest, for a number of reasons, so the convenient thing is to dismiss you as a "troll" and silence you.
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That's a shame to hear. Maybe it's already too late, but I still hold hope that it's just a single rogue individual and the team remembers the reasons and passion that led them to volunteer their time for free.
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Sir, this is a communist website
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That sub is pretty notorious for this kind of thing.
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I was banned because I suggested western nations have and probably responsible for regiment change in many nations
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I'm sorry you're dealing with abusive behavior. These mods sitewide are out of control. /Jobs mods have pm'd me several times (including this morning) after I've reported them five times yet Reddit seems at least to care about the mods more than the actual users. I honestly don't thing Reddit could care less what happens on their platform.
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Yeah, it's actually very easy to see how mod teams might be corrupted. You have people who are unpaid, but have dictatorial powers within very popular online spaces. It would be *very* easy to be tempted by the offer of money under the table. Even if you ignore corrupting someone who's already there, it would be very easy for personal biases to manifest. After all, what recourse is there? Who chooses the mod team? Existing mods. Who do you ask for reviews of decisions? Existing mods. If an entire team goes rogue there's literally no recourse. Admins can steap in, but it would take admins actively policing mod teams, but how large is the admin team? Not large enough to deal with anything *unless* it's really hitting reddit's reputation and upcoming IPOs.