Banned from therewasanattempt

1    03 Feb 2024 22:43 by u/Jeeps_guns_bbq

I posted a reasonable response to a photo of an IDF soldier guarding Arab men. People didn't like my question and I got banned from the subreddit. When I asked why it for for hate against an ethnicgroup. So I asked the mods how did I demonstrated hate and now their threatening me. Woooo

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Ah, yes, “terrorists” are famous for carrying their *checks notes* identification cards. Silly thing to ban a person for, but it’s extraordinarily unlikely that they were armed before this photo was taken.
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Reddit mods don't seem to understand what the downote and reply button are for.
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A civilian can easily pick up a rifle and shoot it, and then discard of the rifle and hide within a crowd of people. That's how terrorism works. Hamas does not use uniforms when fighting in Gaza. They dress exactly like civilians, wearing t shirts, flip flops, and jeans. This guy could very well be a regular civilian, not affiliated with Hamas, but he took a weapon and fired it at soldiers, thus rendering him an enemy combatant.
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Fighting in Gaza is self defense
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Ah yes the "shoot first then claim self defense" argument.
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I mean.. the 9/11 terrorists all had their identification papers on them. Then again.. I don’t know a lot of famous terrorists.
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Airports require id to hijack plane.
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They used them to enter the country legally first.. well before they hijacked the planes. Just because they’re carrying identification doesn’t mean they don’t have nefarious intents.
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Yeah, good thing the U.S. government found them on the ground in such great shape that they could get all their information from them.
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Good thing! Or we might not have known they were terrorists. /s
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That sub has the same mods as the worldnewsvideos sub, and they'll ban you from both. And they're all pro-Hamas.
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It’s a literal brigade. They have subs that they post their sketchy propaganda-disguised-as news-articles to and then they all repost that content from other accounts. Because they are all mods, or have mods within the brigade, they can silence any dissenters, even people just asking questions like “what’s the source on this?,” or “that video didn’t show what’s claimed in the post title.” But it’s all agitprop.
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Oh I was worried they were on isreals side. Good ban in that case.
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Get ratio'd again
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Reddit is just something to goof around with. If it's gone tomorrow nobody would care.
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We can only hope.
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Click the 3 little dots next to the mods comment and report them. They have to be reviewed by Reddit admins and they hate overly ban happy mods and will ban the mod, you won't be unbanned but at least some revenge.
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They will not ban the mod. Reddit administration rarely takes action against how mods police their community, and when they do its typically only for being too lax, not too strict.
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Not true, they're as ban happy as mods
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They are ban happy but not for over modding or censorship of subs.
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They are if it's not actually violating sub rules.
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Okay
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From what I've seen the report only comes to me in the mod queue to review. I don't believe admins review but then again I could be wrong.
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Admins only review mod comments, so if you report a mod it goes to the admins to be reviewed and I was told that they're very bad happy against the mods cuz they don't like when mods are being happy so you should always report the mods that unrightfully banned you, if they leave you a comment, if they don't leave you a comment there's nothing you can do. Now you won't be unbanned but at least they'll get a ban too.
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Problem is that you responded all this to the wrong person initially :) I think you meant it for OP, where I'm the mod from r/Redditcensors I've never seen admin overturn a sub ban despite a report, I've been banned that many times I just leave the sub and move on.
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Last time I did that I was banned from Reddit for 3 days due to “harassment”. Jannies know all the tricks and will get you back for it too.
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Idk man would suck to have some of the communities for niche hobbies/things I like vanish
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Yeah, I really enjoy the minipainting subs.
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Therewasanattempt had an entire "from the river to the sea" screed in the aftermath of Oct 7th. Bunch of SERIOUSLY anti-jewish things posted in there and that is a-ok apparently.
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Y'all love to pretend you're the victims while Israel is committing genocide by yelling about how opposition to that genocide is antisemitism. You're making us less safe with this bullshit
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So is it the slowest rolling genocide in world history, and the first one with a net positive population boom or are you just full of shit?
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This is literally the excuse nazis used until they finally succeeded with their genocide
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It’s not about victims when it comes to censorship. You can’t censor one without censoring both.. because then it’s just one-sided propaganda. Find a safe space from the words that are hurting you.
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So you're making us more safe with censorship? Fuck off.
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Calling out people's bullshit is censorship? Why are you trying to censor me?
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Did I delete your post? Did I ban you? Are you fucking retarded? Apparently so.
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Did I delete your post or ban you?
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You're defending censorship in this case so you are taking the place of the censor, then rolling over and saying complaining about censorship is censorship. I don't know what kind of drugs you took today but you might want to lay off of them. This circular argument is stupid and I'm done with you.
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Lmao, I'm sure you can explain how me telling you that false claims of antisemitism hurts Jews is defending censorship, right?
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Your comment is what happens when you have zero critical thinking skills. I’m sure Ukraine is committing genocide too then? You know since they bomb cities within Russia after being invaded? Fuck hamas
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From the river to the sea isn't inherently antisemitic. That's just cope
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And you aren't inherently stupid most likely but you sure are working hard at it.
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Prove the statement is inherently antisemitic then you genuine waste of oxygen
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It's in reference to Palestine controlling a large Jewish population, who has their genocide written into their charter? Pretty clearly genocidal and antisemitic.
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Except it's not. That's your personal assertion. It's also a Palestinian saying, so the Jewish perspective is mostly irrelevant. Is it used in a genocidal context? Yes. Is it always used that way? No. The context matters, but it's not inherently antisemitic. It's also not in reference to that, it's in reference to Palestinians reclaiming their land. You're making context up to cope which is funny considering it's Israel in the icj for genocide charges and Israel who was told to lay off genocidal practice
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It's a pretty literal saying. You're just supporting genocide. Are they? Because it's going to fall through. Icj said nothing of the sort. Maybe you should actually read the ruling. They don't agree with you.
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I have. They have been cautioned and told to avoid genocidal practice. Cope harder you delusional redditor. Literal? If I'm taking it literally it's a call for freedom dipshit. The icj literally didn't let it fall through, it's continuing in the court because it had validity. You're making shit up and you know it
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Yeah, imagine a going to court for a crime and all they say is "yeah watch out for this happening." Super obvious they're worried about it. No one will ever be punished. No one will ever actually be charged by them. YOU'RE coping. Lol Have you always wanted to see innocent jews die, or just since Hamas became topical in their most recent "start a fight, lose, and claim victim" cycle?
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Yeah the good old antisemitic card lmao. Watch the onions video on it from 2009 or whatever. Delusional. You can't argue for shit because you know you're objectively wrong so you pull that out because it's all you have. Like clockwork. Why tf would they need to be told to watch out for genocide if they're actually the world's most moral army? And again, how did the unrwa charge go? It fell through. What didn't fall through? The genocide charges. Which are still ongoing dumbass. How long have you hated brown people and Arabs?
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Lol I'm not a jew, it's just funny to turn the genocide card back on Hamas supporters. Yeah the onion, classic source of reason and validity. Is it apartheid? Or is it an occupation? Hard to argue both at the same time, right? Or is it just whatever is convenient to you? Welcome to war. Every military has bad actors/happenings. You have to watch out for them constantly. Been that way all of history, fella. Nothing will come of them. It's just another angle for attention and propaganda, a way to bend nothing into something to argue genocide. I couldn't care less about Arabs, certainly not Palestinians. They are completely incapable of affecting me in any way. Hell, they care so little about actually being a part of the global order, they starve their own people to use fertilizer and irrigation pipes to ineffectually murder jews.
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Yeah exactly. Arab hate pure and simple from a simple mind. Are you just hallucinating? You have to occupy a space to commit apartheid. The Hamas supporter card lmao, I got a bingo. You literally are just a hive mind at this point. Argue this assuming you can read. Keep in mind these are old and don't include all the recent war crimes. https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/10/un-expert-warns-new-instance-mass-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-calls https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/israels-ethnic-cleansing-of-palestinians-in-the-west-bank/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ethnic_Cleansing_of_Palestine https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/allegation-israel-committing-ethnic-cleansing https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2023/5/15/ethnic-cleansing-by-zionists-in-palestine https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/16/israel-gaza-mass-evacuation-ethnic-cleansing https://press.un.org/en/2021/gapal1439.doc.htm https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/2023/10/13/another-nakba/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Human_rights_abuses_in_Israel https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2014/07/israelgaza-attacks-medical-facilities-and-civilians-add-war-crime-allegations/ https://apnews.com/article/israel-middle-east-business-israel-palestinian-conflict-fe452147166f55ba5a9d32e6ba8b53d7 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_al-Jalaa_Building https://rsf.org/en/rsf-files-complaint-icc-war-crimes-against-journalists-palestine-and-israel#:~:text=According%20to%20RSF's%20tally%2C%2034,Israel%20and%20one%20in%20Lebanon. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_during_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/are-israels-military-tactics-abiding-by-the-laws-of-war https://www.npr.org/2023/10/27/1208946050/israel-s-military-response-to-the-hamas-massacre-appears-to-be-expanding https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_apartheid#:~:text=On%201%20February%202022%2C%20Amnesty,the%20Palestinians%20%22serves%20as%20a https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/
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Which river and which sea?
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Which river and which sea do you think they're talking? There some secret one I don't know about?
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My point is that the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea includes historic Jewish lands.
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The Palestinians are also indigenous to that land whether you like it or not and have an equal historical claim to it. Beyond that there are still Palestinians alive today that lived there. You don't get to paint the land red because some Jewish ppl were there before the Roman empire. That's the same argument Russia was using with Ukraine and China is using with Taiwan.
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Exactly. Both are entitled. So the idea of one side eliminating the other is wrong. Palestinians and Mizrahi Jews are actually the same people genetically. They have the same claim since they were once a single ethnic group.
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OMG. You are a beautiful and wonderful person. Thank you. Was having a lil faith in ppl crisis but this is actually incredibly true and valid. I fully agree with you. In another world I truly wish this was realized sooner and Israel Palestine could have risen as a united country. I know that's pretty wild but still
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That phrase was literally created as a call for all Jews to be pushed out of Israel. How is that not antisemitic. Anyone who says it are either antisemitic or an idiot.
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Nope, that's your personal interpretation. Just cuz it triggers you doesn't mean it's inherently antisemitic. Also not really no, mostly it's used as a pro Palestinian freedom call. Ya know, that lands they used to live in. Beyond that it's not a Jewish phrase. Your opinion on it is actually just irrelevant. You don't get to just co opt a phrase and then tell the ppl using it what it means, they are the ones using it, they make the meaning. That said it's a phrase I've never actually said myself..
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I can when the people who use the phrase (Hamas and its supporters) are literally the ones who say that it calls for the extermination of all Jews "from the river to the seas" and even has it in their charter that all Jews worldwide should be killed.
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The charter and the phrase are different not the same thing. Notice how you're not actually using the phrase? You had to drop the "will be free part" to make it for your warped personal interpretation. The level of mental gymnastics here, honestly. And Hamas uses an awful lot of phrases, that doesn't mean they get to co opt the phrase either. Again, just because your feelings got hurt doesn't make it true
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I said a half quote because I didn't think I needed to use the whole quote but fine I'll play your game. The whole quote is "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free". Free of what? Jews, the answer is that it'll be free of Jews. If you don't believe me I'll literally pay for you to go to the West bank and ask anyone there what that phrase means and they'll tell you, they want all Jews in Israel dead or gone. And before you start more shit, I said the West bank because I know you'd never go to Gaza. Piss off and stop excusing people who are calling for the genocide of all Jews in Israel.
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Shey dumbass, tell me which country is on trial for genocide? It's not fucking Palestine. There is not ongoing genocide of Jews, you're just coping and afraid of brown people. Whatever you're smoking I'd like some. The West Bank? Again, who's doing the killing there? Jewish settlers, which group was just sanctioned by the court and had their actions brought up in the icj as possible genocide, the settlers. It could and does mean free to fucking walk around their ancestral lands. Again, the world doesn't revolve around you or your shitty ignorant worldview. I could walk up to plenty of people in favor of Palestine and they'd tell me that. I can't go to Gaza because Israel is bombing it. Goddamn the level of cognitive dissonance
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... The court literally found them not guilty of genocide. And your right, there is no ongoing genocide of Jews. That's because in the last 85 years there have already been several. The entire middle East and north Africa ethnically cleansed it's jews. The only country left that has more than a handful is Israel as that's the only place they can live in peace in the region. You know what was genocidal though? The one day Hamas got the upper hand and murdered 1600 Jews and kidnapped another 400. That's a genocidal action. What's not genocidal is fighting a war in response to make sure the genocidal maniacs who committed that attack are punished and get the remaining hostages back.
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The trial is ongoing, they found a basis for the genocide claims and told Israel to avoid that. Wtf are you talking about? Israel isn't even complying with the court. You're literally just making shit up. Also, guess which country has all of its charges against goddamn unraw dropped because they would complete bs? Israel ding ding ding. Killing 25,000 isn't? Fuck you. Israel has killed objectively more babies and civilians. How did Israel form? By ethnic cleansing. Why does everyone else in the region hate Israel, the ethnic cleansing and apartheid. Doesn't make ethnic cleansing ok, but you're knuckle dragging stone chucking proto human cro magnon stupid if you can't work out the math on that one. Also, Israel has been killing its own hostages. Google Hannibal doctrine. Also that 1600 had a very large number of IDF soldiers which are genuine fair military targets in a war. Civilians never are but y'all's military is being beaten by a goddamn terrorist group in terms of disproportionate killing
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Jesus Christ you literally just justified the October 7th attack. You are literally a monster who just hates Jews, and a majority were not soldiers, if you want I'll literally show you the mutilated bodies of civilians. And no, they didn't find a basis for genocide. Their ruling was there is no basis for Israel's genocide claims but because it's a war, there is a possibility that in the future there may be one. That's not them saying they're committing genocide and your an idiot for thinking so. Piss of Jew hater.
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I can't see the question you asked, what was it?
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In response to someone elses comment of: "Idk whats soo "badass" when she has a fkin rifle and the people are unarmed and have their hands raised" I replied: "Maybe because the prisoners were just recently disarmed, I'm thinking that you don't want prisoners to carry loaded weapons while transporting them
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That's... not a question. In your response to the mods in this post, and in this post itself, you say you were just asking a question. Only, you didn't ask a question. Looking at the context of it all, it seems more like you were trying to say something instead. What question did you think you were asking?
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Ok so maybe it wasn't a question , but a reasoned to the question of Idk whats soo "badass" when she has a fkin rifle and the people are unarmed... That it's clear that they are possibly prisoners being cleared from an area.
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Do you have any other information, other than what you can see in the photo, that they actually are prisoners? Like, do you know for sure, or have other evidence to support the theory?
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Military aged men, in an area with known large support for a terror organization that is also known to wear civilian clothing. Context clues are key here
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Opinions, and assumptions based on race, location and age. Not "evidence" or "context clues". If the idf had even the slightest suspicion, he would have been undressed for a start.
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Race was never mentioned and isn’t even a factor here but nice try. And no you typically wouldn’t be strip searching in the middle of a hot zone sorry to burst your bubble
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Lol are you forgetting the numerous videos of supposed fighters asked to strip before approaching soldiers? I thought that was for checking for vests? Would a women who though that guy might have a be standing two feet away? Nice try.
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Yes one specific instance and need is representative of all situations
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Good to know suicide vests are no longer a threat. Thanks general.
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Bs, we've seen multiple times how Palestinian pows are treated
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Military aged men are always treated with caution when in a war zone. Even more so in the middle east becouse of the over abundants of militants wearing civilian clothing. Regardless being careful of a population that has a governing body who's fighters typically don't wear uniform and target civilians isn't "opinion" its fact. Second you are doing the exact same thing that you are saying the poster is doing. Making assumptions based on race, location with out evidence. Just because there's videos of Israelis undressing terrorists doesn't mean that it is standard for all units.
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One of them has something in their hands, neither of them have their hands restrained, it just doesn't seem to be enough information to conclude they are definitely prisoners. Your context clues seem to be causing presumption here, I am interested in the facts that op was relying on.
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What crime is "military aged men", exactly? Your context clues are just shitty assumptions.
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As a member of the American forces that occupied Iraq for three years, you are full of shit.
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She’s not even pointing it at them. It’s part of her equipment and likely goes with her everywhere.
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Except that's not clear at all that they were 'disarmed prisoners, especially given the context given with the photo and how Israel tends to treat *anyone* in Gaza. You came to those conclusions yourself based on your own prejudice.
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I was banned, too. Bunch of asshole mods defending theives.
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Typical reddit bullshit. You didn't even remotely mention or hint at race.
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The only argument that could be made what that he was targeting a particular nationality but that doesn’t necessarily indicate racism or ethnically motivated hate. But even then there’s plenty of subs on Reddit openly hating Russia, as well as America, neither of which are specific races of people but are specific nations so disliking certain nations does not seem to violate Reddit’s TOS.
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terrorist sympathizers and antisemites are being applauded today by the left, ironic.
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Uh oh final warning *gulp* what are they gonna do? Ban you again?
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Lol I got banned from there for quoting the Bible. Terrible subreddit through and through
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What’s bro gonna do? Unban and reban you?
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They hate Jews in their echo chamber and are attempting to control the narrative.
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That sub is a hive of scum and villiany anyway. Most people who post are the flavor of the month anti-Jewish Marxists
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You're not wrong, old Ben ᵏᵉⁿᵒᵇⁱ…
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What was with the modmail "final warning" to not reply to them again at the end? You're already banned, what more could they do?
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They could mute you 😡
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Surprised they didn't. It's the usual playbook on first message. Double down on some bad take, mute for 4 weeks.
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Do what all leftists do when they don’t get their way or disagree with you; try to have you silenced, dox you, threaten your life, threaten your children’s lives, etc.
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They will falsely report him for “harassment” because the petty “don’t contact us” counts as some kind of weird precedent. They do this on purpose instead of muting them because they know they can get away with entrapping people into bans. In all these instances reddit will auto side with the mod and it will result in site wide suspension. Ironic because the whole scheme is abusive and blatant harassment.
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I think I was banned from there, and I’ve been banned from others for asking simple no. Offensive questions. Mods are sometimes real sacks of Richards.
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>I posted a reasonable response to a photo of an IDF soldier guarding Arab men. Except it wasn't reasonable, was it? 2-3% of Gaza is Hamas. The overwhelming majority of dead or noncombatants.
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Hamas hides behind civilians because they know this would happen 
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That's pretty simpleminded thing to say. They are confined to a tiny, walled in, city under total blockade. There is literally nowhere in Gaza where they won't be directly adjacent to, or mixed in with, civilians. No shit, sherlock.
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Your third sentence says everything
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Yes. No shit. Your astute observation is almost as impressive as pointing out that humans need clean drinking water to survive.
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If they knew many innocent people would obviously die they are responsible and use it for political gain. Keyboard warriors like you choke on the bait.
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It’s amazing people like you can say things like that. “Well, they used human shields, so that justifies killing 97 innocents for every 3 combatants”. You tell on yourself without hesitation. Yikes.
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War is hell. They shouldn't have started a losing one, eh? Anyways, your number are wrong by orders of magnitude.
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"They" is the 30-40k people amidst >2M people. Those numbers are *Israeli* numbers. Whose numbers are you using? So you believe in collective punishment? If your neighbor committed a crime, it would be okay for you to be killed in revenge? People really do just love to tell on themselves.
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Source? Those numbers are meaningless, didn't even give context or reference to what they are. I believe that war being shitty is a fact. When tanks roll in and missiles start flying, no one cares about being nice or right anymore, they care about winning. Win now, do the best we can, clean up and argue later. No one cried when Russia launched cruise missiles into civilian infrastructure. The best way to save Palestinian lives is for Hamas to lose quickly. It's the only way out, now.
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[https://www.npr.org/2024/02/01/1228462647/what-does-hamas-have-left](https://www.npr.org/2024/02/01/1228462647/what-does-hamas-have-left) >Well, Israel says about 9,000 Hamas fighters have been killed and perhaps a similar number wounded, and various Israeli estimates put the Hamas fighting force at the beginning of the war at around 30,000 or so, give or take. But these are just Israeli estimates that NPR can't independently verify. We don't have hard numbers because Hamas refuses to provide figures. ... >I believe that war being shitty is a fact. When tanks roll in and missiles start flying, no one cares about being nice or right anymore, they care about winning. The international community, Geneva Conventions, and Rome Statute all contradict you. Total war is unacceptable. The entire world agreed to a set of rules. >No one cried when Russia launched cruise missiles into civilian infrastructure. They did. Have you not been paying attention? The US sent Patriot surface to air defense systems following those incidents. >The best way to save Palestinian lives is for Hamas to lose quickly. What does it mean for Hamas to "lose"? Be specific.
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[https://www.npr.org/2024/02/01/1228462647/what-does-hamas-have-left](https://www.npr.org/2024/02/01/1228462647/what-does-hamas-have-left) >Well, Israel says about 9,000 Hamas fighters have been killed and perhaps a similar number wounded, and various Israeli estimates put the Hamas fighting force at the beginning of the war at around 30,000 or so, give or take. But these are just Israeli estimates that NPR can't independently verify. We don't have hard numbers because Hamas refuses to provide figures. ... >I believe that war being shitty is a fact. When tanks roll in and missiles start flying, no one cares about being nice or right anymore, they care about winning. The international community, Geneva Conventions, and Rome Statute all contradict you. Total war is unacceptable. The entire world agreed to a set of rules. >No one cried when Russia launched cruise missiles into civilian infrastructure. They did. Have you not been paying attention? The US sent Patriot surface to air defense systems following those incidents. >The best way to save Palestinian lives is for Hamas to lose quickly. What does it mean for Hamas to "lose"? Be specific.
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It doesn’t justify it but they knew it would happen so they are wicked for it
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>so they are wicked for it. And engaging in wholesale slaughter of noncombatants is also wicked. Hamas is wrong. Israel is wrong. Palestinians are the victims caught between. This is not that complicated.
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As someone who spent 3 years in Gaza, I can honestly say you are wrong. First of all, they don't have to build military infrastructure in the middle of a neighborhood. They can place it in the outskirts of the city. They don't have to dig tunnels under schools and hospitals. They don't have to launch rockets from neighborhoods, they can do it from orchards, fields, beaches, or even less populated areas. Also note that the Rimal neighborhood where all the rich Hamas leaders lived, wasn't used for military purposes. It was still destroyed because the people living there are almost exclusively Hamas. But they were not building weapons or training there.
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Thank you
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And what? Launch a rocket then just stand out completely exposed on a section of beach? And that’s still no guarantee that civilians won’t be targeted. People in West Bank, where Hamas is not in power or operating, are seeing a drastic increase in being murdered by Israel. Turns out, and we have plenty of evidence of this, Israel just hates Palestinians and looks for any opportunity or justification to make them suffer or die.
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Aaaand here is the point. Yes they should stand in the middle of freaking nowhere instead of doing it next to civilians on purpose. That is the definition of Human shields.
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>Aaaand here is the point. Yes they should stand in the middle of freaking nowhere instead of doing it next to civilians on purpose. That is literal suicide. Nobody just stands in the open waiting to have a jet drop a bomb on them. Maybe Israel shouldn't be running the world's largest open air prison under total blockade, continually visiting abuses upon a people that fosters a small offshoot of violent extremists? No. It is the fault of the violent extremists that they choose not to stand out on a beach completely exposed in the open 24/7 so that Israel may kill them when ready. Also, there is no guarantee that Israel would accept that the sum total of their enemy was standing out on the beach. What is to stop them from saying that was a diversion and all the really important people are hiding among the civilians and then bombing the fuck out of civilians? Oh yeah. Nothing.
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Israel used to let in tens of thousands of Gazans for work. so not an open air prison. Israel also treated them in their own hospitals. If Hamas didnt take advantage of this to infiltrate suicide bombers and other terrorists, they would still be able to do it. The border is not closed out of sadistic means, it is closed for security. Why isnt Egypt opening their border? Why aren't Gazans allowed to work there or visit their hospitals? You see, when a neighboring country attacks yours, you close the border. And yes, like Israel isnt using its own cities and villages as cover for military activities, Hamas shouldn't too. Or maybe this is why they are categorized as a TERROR organization and not an actual army. Do you also want to talk about the thousands of rockets shot at Israel for the past 2 decades when most times Israel didnt retaliate? Which country in the world takes thousands of rockets and stays down?
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Surrounded by walls. Travel controlled. Importa controlled. Israel denied them the ability to build and airport and a seaport. Yes. It is a total blockade under totalitarian Israeli control. Welcome to reality. Prisoners are also allowed to leave prison under supervised work details. The rest is just a bunch of excuses defending mass murderers.
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Point out the facts and they call you a racist, tail old as time
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It’s the goto move for the Pro Palestine movement. That and “We’re not antisemitic. We’re anti Zionist.”
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Ya, then they go on to say things like " From the river to the sea palestine will be free," Which Is the literally calling for the death of all Jews in Israel.
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I don’t think you understand what the word *literally* means.
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So you think that if hamas suddenly got control over all of Israel right now, not a single Jew would die. Or are you gonna take them based on their actions. Which is slaughtering every Jew and other person they come across.
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Why asking hypothetical questions ? Can’t you try to come up with a real argument to prove your point ? It’s either you do not comprehend the situation or you do not have enough information to engage in a real conversation about the subject.
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You're right, because the argument that has been proven by their actions before that they will slaughter. Everyone they come across is not a good argument in your mind. Why?
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Please answer this simple question: who killed the most civilians these last 20+ years, the Hamas or the IDF ? If you know the answer we can keep talking about the point you are trying to make. If you don’t, then there is no reason I waste more of my time replying to you. **Literally** ;)
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By that same metric, the nazis were on the right side of history. Because we killed more Germans, can they kill us. Do you still wanna stand by that point?
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Seriously ? The German lost 3 times less people than the USSR alone. The German’s casualties were much less than the number of Jews they killed. As a side note, you did not answer the question.
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That wasnt your point, though. You asked who killed more. And we're taking this off of innocent civilians more German civilians died than any other group During World War 2.
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More German civilians died than any other group ? Where the heck did you learn this from ? I’m curious and concerned.
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Go read the Hamas charter of 1987 and then get back to me Also read the work of Amin Al Husseni
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1988 ? That charter is no longer relevant (unless your bias makes it relevant of course). Go read the **revised Hamas charter of 2017**. Hamas has revised its stance on some issues, such as accepting a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders and distancing itself from the Muslim Brotherhood. **Literally !**
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You mean the one (1988) that never uses the phrase "From the River to the Sea"? The one that says: >It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine, for under the wing of Islam **followers of all religions can coexist** in security and safety where their lives, possessions and rights are concerned. I'm no fan of Hamas, but their outdated charter certainly does not support your claims that "From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free" is a call for genocide.
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What facts? That was speculation at best
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There's literally nothing in the photo to indicate that they are prisoners being transported. 
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And you can pick out all the terrorists in a crowd of hundreds of people, right? That's the thing we don't know, and that's the scary part the person that you're trying to save could be trying to kill you.
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I'm not criticizing the actions of Israel here, you gotta do what you got to do. But the original tweet says they're terrorists (there's nothing to indicate they are terrorists) and this guy's comment and mod response say well maybe they could possibly be prisoners that had recently been disarmed (there's nothing to indicate they're prisoners). I don't think OP should have been banned, but the idea that he was just pointing out "the facts" is crazy, it's pure speculation.
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Because it doesn't fit the agenda.
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The agenda of what? The pro Israel stance is the most commonly held belief with the most backing
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Bunch of woke losers
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Do not contact us again. Final warning. OR ELSE! lmao guy needs some weed
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Imma “contact” all over that mods sister later
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Mods: “You can’t post hate based on ethnicity” Also Mods: *fosters and encourages hate based on ethnicity* Reddit is a commie shithole and you’re not allowed to voice disagreement with commies under any circumstances. On Reddit it’s “we’re banning you, now don’t ask questions”, if they gain any real political power it’ll be “up against the wall”.
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Reddit mods defending Hamas.. seems about right.. plus, you hurt them right in their lady dicks by questioning your ban.
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Lol what are they gonna do if you contact them again?
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The "do not contact us again" part is scary to me. I have been banned from a subreddit before for pointing out statistical fact. Contacted the mods with links to govt websites confirming my side, got told to not contact them again so I've sent them more links confirming my stance, they got me banned from reddit for 3 days. Reason? Hate speech. It scares me that someone can just silence you because "hate speech" even when it's backed up by multiple studies. Those people shape the public discord.
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It would be hilarious if Elon musk bought this dumpster fire we call Reddit - it’s ~only~ in the $5-15B range.
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Ooooh final warning, Mr. Badass mod sounds serious this time so don’t risk it
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damn she kinda bad ngl. respectfully.
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That place is an antisemetic echo-chamber
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it definitely doesn’t help your case to use arab as a catch all term for any middle eastern person especially when you already know they’re palestinian
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There was an attempt to do what tho
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Nah thats a nazi muslim
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That sub was taken over by a slacktivist mod and I think still has a "river to the sea" banner. Abandon all hope ye who enter here.
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leftist shithole, you won that round
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Weird. It's almost like people have a lot of strong feelings about this conflict that has been going on for generations, and attempting to reason with any of them is a lost cause. Almost.
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Sounds like you suck dude. Better luck next time
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That sub is hardcore tankie and pro Hamas
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Uh oh. Don’t want to find out what the final warning is LOL
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What are they gonna do, ban you again? 
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You are not very smart if you are fooled by such obvious settler propaganda.
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Palestinian isn’t even an ethnicity lmfao. It’s a cultural distinction if you could even call it that.
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Bro, you got a final warning. One more contact attempt and it goes on your permanent record.
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Start a new account, go to there was an attempt main page, block all their mods, comment away.
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I used to enjoy therewasanattempt. It contained a lot of non political videos that were good for a laugh or two. Then after the blackout, new mods took over and basically made it political. Same thing that happened to whitepeopletwitter twitter, once a fun and entertaining sub that went full political.
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Fuck reddit & YouTube 🇨🇳 🇷🇺
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I see a female terrorist on some brown people's land
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Definetly not on Israel’s side in all this but the comment “I haven’t seen any armed Palestinians” is WILD. Like oh well I guess if user scubaHD hasn’t seen it in his online echo chamber then it must not exist.
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Get fukt
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Why does he say “final warning”? What does he think he can do? Some of these mods act like they’re the Leviathan himself and by banning you from a particular subreddit they’re damning you to the eternal pit of Reddit hell lmao
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I was banned from unexpected due to the admiral Akbar gif.
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There was an attempt is poorly modded. There was a clip of a guy from India doing some Florida man shit so I said India man instead. Perma ban and they didn’t listen to my appeal
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Israel was founded on terrorism (See: Menachem Begin), but the terrorized population they are occupying are the real terrorists!
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Reddit is retarded nothing racist was said. Smh this world is going to hell people can't take differing opinions.
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Op is brainwashed or a bigot
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You think your tweet is evidence? A Twitter post? Please go back to high school and learn about creditable sources. You deserved your ban.
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Final warning