But where's the lie?

153    11 Feb 2024 12:57 by u/Fact_Stater

The Left will go out of its way to attack men with made up stats related to SA and sexual harassment then unironically defend the groups that are actually responsible.

179 comments

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We all know what the deal is on Reddit. There was that Justice subreddit where they banned all posts that had a POC perpetrator. It's a rule for the sub.
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Eventually pattern recognition will be illegal irl as well. There's already manipulation of racial crime stats in regards to Hispanic/Non-Hispanic Whites.
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Mugshots are no longer released in many areas because it "might encourage racist attitudes." They've been doing it for years, and you are 100% correct about the intentionally obfuscating criminal statistics reporting. I have tons of screenshots of tons of supposedly "white" criminals. Truthful crime statistics would cause a monumental shift in attitudes towards law enforcement, punishment, and all forms of immigration.
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I saw some article a couple of years ago where black people committing awful crimes were called white because they weren’t black enough. I facepalmed.
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Yep.
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I doubt it. The people who need convincing are incapable of being objective. Bringing even more evidence won’t change their minds.
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Y'all are so cringe
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Yes, facts can be cringe. Whole Western world is in its cringe era.
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Because of people like y'all, sure
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Look at it pretending to be simple, honest, and folksy by the conspicuous usage of "y'all."
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Huh? I'm just from the south, thats what we say. What should I say instead, "because of people like yous guys?" lmao
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Yall is also a gender neutral.
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Y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all. Cringe fr fr og no cap y'all y'all
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You're not helping your case haha
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This is the strangest response to the word "y'all" I've seen lol
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You said that like three times lol we’re still waiting on you to have a single coherent thought.
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If "y'all are cringe" isn't coherent to you, then you are beyond my help
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no one over the age of 17 considers “yall are cringe” a coherent thought
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Og fam he ain't got no rizz fr He think he based but he basic, big yikes
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>This is the strangest response to the word "y'all" I've seen lol WHAT are these responses lmfao
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This is why I like Florida's laws about crime, I think its called the "sunshine law" but basically, all crime is public recorded and made available with no filter involving adults. Frankly, I think it should be a federal law that all courts including states should have to follow it as well. Granted for Florida it creates the bad thing of "florida man" cause well crime data is so easy to access unlike most other states. You would think though states that care about transparency would want laws forcing the government to be transparent particularly around criminal justice which has historically used these "shady" area's to commit severe injustices to minority's.
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>We all know what the deal is on Reddit. Yup, which subreddit mods went through banning everyone for using the term "female", that is indication enough.
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Have you seens the pics of those mods?
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Yes. Blue hair
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"Pronoun blue hair sjw feminist blue hair"
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What board was that? I think we should get people to get banned en mass for using the word female just to show how stupid that is.
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Reddit mods aren’t very smart. What happens when you give people jobs but don’t pay them.
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I would agree. Calling a woman/girl a slut for wearing a swimming costume at a swimming pool is mean.
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Bro I got banned on a post about that muslim restaurant named after the October invasion, pointing out that they’re the same ones that bomb and kill people for drawing their prophet and then do that shit
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I got banned from a sub for saying someone’s dance looked gay. Sorry for growing up in the 90s when gay wasn’t worse than the N word.
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Maybe they flipped. Try using the N word next time.
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Reddit lol
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Liberal mods at it again!
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Trash.
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😆
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welcome to r/circlejerkaustralia
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Yeah, you took a post and turned it into your personal soapbox to attack Muslims and the Left. You didn't add to the conversation and decided to troll instead. I'd side with the mods on this one.
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You’re spitting truth. The trainee mod of that sub probably has a fetish for them.
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We can start with you just.. assuming they're immigrants? Because of course the scary brown heathen people have to be FOREIGNERS too!
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You just commented on a guy making sexist comments and immediately made a racist comment I’m just shocked
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Muslim isn't a race it's a religion goofy
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We really need to stop letting in rightwingers
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What is this cancer sub
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Probably because people keep focusing on the fact that they were Muslim, and implying that it's them trying to force their Muslim culture on us because they hate Western countries. All while ignoring the fact that western christian nutjobs do the same thing to women of our own country daily. This isn't an East vs West thing, or a Muslim vs America thing.  This is a religion vs society thing. And the water park even admits that this behavior was witnessed in only a small percentage of the group.  That's like judging an entire universities student body based off the behavior of the worst Frat Dudes.
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Cancer ass comments
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Lmfao all of y'all on this sub are a bunch of lil piss pants babies. Can't handle not being able to spread hate speech in other communities. Please do the world a favor and never join society lol
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lamo the fact that yall are malding over getting banned for saying something veyr racist not all muslims hate amercia
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You have brain worms. The screenshots you posted and your description of the narrative you believe are completely unrelated. To make any sense at all of what you’re trying to say, one would have to buy into some incredibly bigoted premises. Hope this helps.
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Based on this post you deserved the ban. Absolute bigot.
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Everyone knows reddit is super liberal and the mods will ban you over anything going against their beliefs. You cannot criticize them. You cannot bring forth facts. You cannot defend yourself. You fall in line to the purple haired she beasts or you get banned
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Focus on the Christians. Reddit loves that. No banning and lots of upvotes.
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Your comment is dumb, buy you shouldn't have been banned.
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ALL MUSLIMS HATES US! Look this article proves my point! "banneD" Why am i banned for bigotry? Easy ban.
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>ALL MUSLIMS HATES US! A large proportion actually do hate the west, and this includes those that have immigrated and never assimilate.
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Where did he say that all Muslims hate us? What he said is that people who hate the West are being let into the country, and that's bad.
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Leftist logic
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The Left controls immigration? Interesting.
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Last time I checked (today) Left is forcing Texas to not only let illegals come in but also forcing their border patrol to ASSIST in processing them in
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You mean, the left is forcing people to follow the law? Weird. i thought Rethuglitardians were the "Law and Order" party? And it wasn't the "left" that torpedo'd the very bill that would allow them to change the law so they DIDNT have to do that. It was the Right. Every Rethugliklan accusation is an admission.
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Constitution Article IV, § 4, the federal government “shall protect each [State] against invasion,” and Article I, § 10, Clause 3, “the States' sovereign interest in protecting their borders.” Nothing Biden or you treasonous leftist pass, say, do can trump the constitution. You are the one breaking the law
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This post is about Australia. >4. Commencement of Act The Commonwealth shall be established, and the Constitution of the Commonwealth shall take effect, on and after the day so appointed. But the Parliaments of the several colonies may at any time after the passing of this Act make any such laws, to come into operation on the day so appointed, as they might have made if the Constitution had taken effect at the passing of this Act.
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“But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.” ― Lysander Spooner, No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority
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Love seeing this quote in the wild. Sad that many folks don’t understand this simple logic.
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Me, when I think women and children are invaders and should be left to down, starve, or die of exposure on the other side of barbed wire because theyre different.
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You when you think the USA is supposed to some how handle taking in the rest of the entire world even though we already have illegals going hungry and unsheltered all over the country
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>rest of the entire world Illegal immigrants make up a couple percent of the US population. >already have illegals going hungry and unsheltered all over the country Because theyre especially vulnerable to exploitation due to the difficulty getting through the visa and citizenship process. Exaccerbated by the unwillingness of republicans to work across the aisle for actual solutions.
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Lol, now the word "invasion" has become meaningless, because some actually treasonable insurrection supporters think they can just say "it's an InvAsIoN" and claim constitutional action.  
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I keep seeing people refer to a bill that was blocked by Republicans. Can you provide the bill that was blocked? I am interested to see what provisions were actually in the bill that you seem to think would be helping currently.
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I don't know what you are talking about, but this is about Australia though, I thought?
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The left in Australia wants open borders and unlimited immigration. Being batshit crazy is a common denominator for all lefties.
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>The left in Australia wants open borders and unlimited immigration. They do?
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You are an island, you dont have a mexico touching you. whos climbing a wall to australia a kiwi??
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They come on boats through the islands to the north.
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Mexicans don't climb a wall to come to the US, either. The vast majority of illegal immigrants enter the country legally with Visas and Passports and just don't leave.
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That's not true at all 250k migrant caravan was just helped through the border fence. And Texas is fighting against it
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Imagine believing that a caravan of 250,000 people was just let through the border. The same people told you the *same exact lie* in 2018 and you just keep believing their bullshit. You desperately need to learn some critical thinking skills or life is going to chew you up.
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Are you nits, new York is trying to file federal injunctions because they can't handle anymore.
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These are people looking for a better life, we need to fix the immigration system, but the way to do that does not involve drowning immigrants with barbed wire.
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yes it does, we cant handle them all and alot are cartel, chinese, and arab not mexican, the chinese said they were given instructions in mandarin to get to argentina and get to the us border from there. sorry dude 2 mexican dudes dragged my friend heather into bushesa nd burned her with a cig and black and mild rying to assualt her, not realizing she had friends near by, we got her away from them but they were gone before the cops could get there and never found them. my friend Abe came here illegally and then got a green card and he hated mexicans outside his family because he said they would always tell him how he should be robbing white boys and fuck being american and hed ask them then why did they come here. no, we are all starving. its way to many people and they commit crimes give a fake name and come over 3 or 4 times, 6 migrants just jumped cops in nyc and were flown to la to be let go.
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It's true. I am both Mexican guys.
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Dude the retard who drowned died of his own volition. If i see a shit ton of barriers im not going to think "huh doi they want me to cross here ill give it a try." Also i dont care if they are looking for a better life that's not our problem. Seal the border and deport anyone including children without legal standing in the US. Then we can talk about immigration reform
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You seem like a reasonable person and most definitely not a sociopath
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That's a straight up lie especially recently with teens of thousands a day crossing with zero paperwork
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Weird how the only people that say that are weird ass right wingers who sit around making up what the left says.
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Pretty sure it's federal immigration policy/laws that are doing that.  Not just "the left" saying now that they are on power you legally have to do whatever they say.  Otherwise I'm pretty sure "the right" would have done the same thing when they had office.
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Are we going to ignore that it it was republicans who voted down the most recent bills at a federal level to tighten border security. Or is that just a fact we are choosing to ignore
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That's because they were bad ineffective pork barrel bills
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No it’s because they listened two a twice impeached criminal and want to make border security an election issue and they know there voter base is dumb enough to listen to the propaganda they push on why they rejected it
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You can't create a problem and then be mad that the other side isn't willing to help you fix it first off all. Biden created the border crisis his first day in life l office with all those executive orders neutering DHS and ICE. second of all, it was the extra funding to ukraine that killed the bill. Im sick of hearing how russia wants to take over Europe they wanted a land bridge to the black sea. Biden created this mess and like a toddler is trying to blame somebody for not trying to help him fix his fuck up.
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First off you are already wrong illegal immigration was the highest it’s ever been during the bush administration so definitely not a problem created by Biden secondly more immigrants are apprehended at the border under Biden than there were under trump so again this administration has already tightened the borders and lastly if they cared the way they say they did they wouldn’t vote down the strictest bill proposed just because it continued military aid to an ally versus one of our longest standing enemies.
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First of all you're wrong about those immigration numbers. If they were anywhere as high as today 2001 America would have shit a brick. Second of all ukraine is not an ally. We do not have a formal treaty of alliance, just diplomatic relations. If they were an ally i would expect boots on the ground in Ukraine under article 5. Ukraine is not a nato member state but a member of the EU we owe them nothing. All we are doing is testing out our toys in a proxy war and feeding the MIC.
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Ya your counter point of 2001 America would shit a brick real valid counterpoint factually based good argument. And as for your second point I’ll concede maybe ally was to formal of a term but it is a country that we have a positive diplomatic relationship who also has strong relations with our Allies with being invaded by a country with poor diplomatic relationships with us and our Allies. A country that has threatened our Allies. So yes fighting a proxy war by sending our older toys to defend a country’s freedom and weaken our enemies all without risking American lives sounds worth it to me. Or would you rather see a country lose its freedom, our enemies gain valuable land and resources and have them continue to strengthen there military rather than weaken it in this proxy war as you put it
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[Texas trooper’s accounts of bloodied and drowning migrants on U.S.-Mexico border unleashes criticism](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/texas-troopers-accounts-of-bloodied-and-drowning-migrants-on-u-s-mexico-border-unleashes-criticism)
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The last I checked, the President is in charge of the border.
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Joe Biden is the one of the most right wing democrats ever elected to congress. Insane.
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Australia doesn't have a president.
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🤦‍♂️I didn't check the sub.
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These people are aware enough to know the left has no institutional power in the US, that we are run by two right wing parties. They’re too interested in acting out this ugly ass victim complex.
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Just out crybaby in your info it’s much easier than making a post like this
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They didn't actually accuse you of being a liar, they called you a bigot
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It's not bigotry, it's the truth
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Except it's not. You could cherry pick every article and pick out the ones that feed your bias and then claim "it's the truth" but that doesn't make it the case, it just exposes your own bigotry. You make it sound like the only people harassing and making sexist remarks towards women are Islamic. As someone who has been out in the real world I assure you that is not the case, but here you are trying to cherry pick an article where members of that group were the perpetrators and chose to use it to make a sweeping generalization against a group that makes up billions of people, or around a quarter of the global population.
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As somebody who's been out in the real world, you probably realise that every article is "cherry picked", simply because one article tends to talk about one issue or incidence. All of us have seen similar articles pass about predominantly muslim men behaving questionable in swimming pools. This article might seem cherry picked for you, but you can find them for any european country, including the ones that try very hard to temper news for "muslim bad" in an attempt to counter the rise of the right wing. I would say, this specific topic isn't cherry picked and a fairly widespread problem in western european countries. This is australia, but I assume it is the same scenario playing out there.
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Yet you're talking about a quarter of the population of the planet. Considering you're attempting to generalize this population it seems odd that it's not the epidemic one would expect if your generalizations and bigotry towards a quarter of the planets population were true. Sorry, I see women treated poorly and harassed at the pools all the damn time. I used to work at a water park. I can assure you, there was far from a muslim/islamic majority in the cases we dealt with. But hey, those douchebag white kids don't make quite the fancy headline, in those cases I'm sure it's just "boys being boys".
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But you're generalizing equally by involving the entire Muslim community all over the world, while in this case it is a subgroup of a population in western countries: young muslim male immigrants. I also find the but they are a quarter of the world! Argument just as wrong as the all muslims are... fill in whatever they are being blamed of this time. Both attitudes are directly related to the escalation issues we have in western europe. The bigotry version has thrown a blanket of Muslim bad over an entire group of people, ostrisizing them from society. And the "you are a bigoted racist" for anybody bringing up an issue with immigrants, has caused that no action could be taken to alleviate the situation. For the swimming pools specific, I have no personal experience, only news reports. But given that the media tried to cover up a sexual assault/rape case with minors because "it might lead people to think poorly of immigrants", make me think that the swimming pool incidents had to be fairly invasive.
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The insinuation is obvious and you can try and pretend it isn't in place all you want but it's right there for all to see. Sure, some young muslim male immigrants certainly can be problematic, just as some young white kids, or some (insert group here). Sorry, if someone is being bigoted by saying "of course it's an immigrant" and insinuating that such an event is obviously the result of these people being around then they're a bigoted and are treated as such. As for your final paragraph, well, the fact you basically admit you're making it up as you go based on your own assumptions says a great deal.
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Did you get cucked by a Muslim guy? You seem unhinged.
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Sometimes, bigotry is based on truth. I'm bigoted towards radical Islam.
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You call yourself a “fact stater” and openly say muslims hate Australia, but can’t accept being called a bigot towards muslims. Dude…just own it and stop trying to be a victim when you’re not. Fuck most of those muslims you’re concerned with will vote right wing every time
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They vote for replacement. THAT is what they vote for.
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Easy hot cat helper… you’re gonna blow a gasket
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Uh-huh
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Correct. They vote right wing in their home country, and liberal/left in a host country. Simple in-group self interest. Turkey literally just founded a German political party to push open borders/more refugees and encouraged all Turks living in Germany to vote for it. Yes, Germany allowed a foreign state to create a political party. Meanwhile parts of the German government are seeking to ban the AfD (who promises deportation and is polling right at 25%).
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Precisely. They vote liberal because liberals such as the idiots in these comments calling OP a bigot allow them to get away with everything and bending over for every accommodation until the hostile non-integrating people hold the reigns of power and REALLY begin to take over. Countless examples all over Europe, throughout history all over the world. The liberals will live in their bubble until a Truck of Peace or Mostly Peaceful Suicide Bomber who could have been a doctor or a lawyer ends them.
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We've had Muslims in this country for a long time and they've been immigrating here recently too. Where are these attacks? I can point to a different version of right wing extremism that has a more tangible impact on my life. Can you?
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Well, they're clearly not into first world values.
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Ha! Neither is Australia
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Got me there lmao
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You got banned for bigotry, pretty justified ban imo.
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Should he go to jail?
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5 banned accounts and counting huh
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You're mistaken, the bogoted OP blaming men was not banned.
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...what?
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Yikes. This dude was like look what a bigot I am. I better run and post.
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lol yeah feels like that King of the Hill meme “those kids would be very mad if they could read,” where OP didn’t read the rules of the sub (or the definitions of the words they used) and then is shocked pikachu when he’s banned for violating them
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Don't worry. He's got his 5 alt accounts he's furiously switching between. We get it buddy! You're a bigot!
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I don't trust new accounts like yours.
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Not sure where the bigotry is. Unless its you accusing someone of it.
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You must have had your mom type this post for you since you can't read what was posted.
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Hey mom this random redditor figured out everything its over
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😂😂😂take my upvote
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Facts can't be bigotry
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Facts like the only good food in your country comes from immigrants? Or is plates of brown and mushy peas cuisine?
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Lmfao you people always do this. "The food is worth having thousands of women brutally raped or groomed every single year. Worth the public stabbings and murders too! Bigot!"
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Racist check, 40k fan check, quick question have you had sex before or do all these things tie together?
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Married with multiple kids, try again
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I guess your just racist and dumb then.
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"They'll call you everything but a liar."
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Give a citation please, also does your wife know you’re rating 16 year olds? https://www.reddit.com/r/amIuglyBrutallyHonest/s/wW1XKoHL2s I’ve found their is always something wrong with racist and bigots brains.
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I've found that leftist and liberal brains often ascribe perverse intent to statements that don't contain anything of the sort. If a sexual assault survivor feels gross in their own skin, they may need some reassurance that they're not, hence the comment. Be right with you, let me did up my citations.
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Citations seem to always be a hard thing for bigots, also if that makes you feel better about commenting on underage peoples posts then sure :)
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https://twitter.com/Marc_Vanguard_i/status/1729908070589870373 Root source in image
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Https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rhovo1215.pdf USA Interracial violent crime from 2012 to 2015 Black-on-White and Hispanic-on-White crime significantly higher than White-on-either of them.
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https://rmx.news/crime/france-foreigners-commit-69-of-robberies-violent-crimes-and-sexual-assaults-on-public-transport/ https://rmx.news/france/france-foreigners-committed-70-of-all-violent-robberies-in-paris-during-first-half-of-2022/
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https://inquisitivebird.substack.com/p/the-effects-of-immigration-in-denmark Denmark. Contains its own citations, goes over both fiscal impact as well as criminality.
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https://archive.vn/BbbPE#248763917 Just for fun, living in Chicago, Philly, LA, or NYC is more dangerous than being in Operation Iraqi Freedom
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Why is that?
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Demographics of course
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can you be specific, I'm not quite sure I understand.
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I've found that leftist and liberal brains often ascribe perverse intent to statements that don't contain anything of the sort. If a sexual assault survivor feels gross in their own skin, they may need some reassurance that they're not, hence the comment. Be right with you, let me did up my citations.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_Finland See the "Perpetrators" section Men of non European origin make up 10% of the population and make up 84% of violent rapists. Algerian 122x as likely to rape as a native, Afghan 69x likely. I'll give you more as I have time to get it, is Monday
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Wow how many google searches did you have to make to cherry pick Finland sexual violence statistics? https://supportingsurvivors.humboldt.edu/statistics An estimated 91% of victims of rape & sexual assault are female and 9% male. Nearly 99% of perpetrators are male. Should we execute all men?
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84% of that 99% of perpetrators is made up of non-European men living in Finland. That's what I showed.
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Now this was a hard line 🔥
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You are regarded lmao european cuisine is widely preferred around the world. Also I guess europeans cant follow a recipe? Guys we NEED to dynamite our country for TAKE OUT.
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I would argue it’s not specifically European but Mediterranean food that’s widely preferred. Spanish, French, Italian and Greek are all in Europe, but they’re also all Mediterranean. The Northern European cuisine isn’t as valued. I’m not one of those “diversity is our strength” kind of people, but the historical multicultural influence through trade has made Mediterranean cuisine better than other European cuisines.
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UK food is preferred where?
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All over the world? Idiot. We NEED to give up our sovereignty, safety, way of life and people for CHICKEN CURRY, bigot!
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I’m not going to pretend that I know if your from French Canada or not and I’m not going to google it. But no one cares about French cuisine. People pretend like they like it but will eat Indian food or kebab 20 times before they eat a French meal.
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I agree the OOP who blamed men was a bigot.
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It is bigotry. Sorry you can't read or understand simple rules
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Doesn't sound like it. Pointing out that letting in people who hate your country and only want to exploit it is not bigotry
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They didn't say "people who hate Australia", they said "Muslims". Bigotry: obstinate prejudice against a person or group of people on the basis of their membership to a particular group
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"People who hate us" i assume "us" is australians.
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I'm not even Australian. The same thing applies to the US, Canada, New Zealand, and Western Europe.
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True. Just the west generally
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It's just pattern/threat recognition.
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Calling Muslims "people who hate your country" is bigotry. This entire comment section is appalling.
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Well the vast majority of muslims reside in countries that are overtly hating in america... a country has every right and needs no explanation for not letting someone in. A country has every right to totally shut down all immigration if they so choose. Countries are not obligated to take in migrants.
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Looks around* Bigotry? Where?
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His comment didn't make the mods too braindead to explain a ban
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Your comment is the lie. Quit your racism and maybe you won't get banned from subs
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Since when is Islam a race?
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That's what you're focusing on? Quit your bigotry. Is that better?
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Hey a bigot in the wild. Hello bigot
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Why is his comment a lie? If the group was white and people were hating on specifically white men would you also call them bigots?
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The post insinuates that all Muslims are like this though, there’s a clear difference