Evidence of MarchAgainstTrump moderator using 5 bot accounts to post almost 5000 articles to their sub in under 2 months πŸ₯‡

1126    11 May 2017 16:50 by u/G_Petronius

All credits to /u/ggggnut, who is the author of all the below. --- This is very long but it's still the SHORT version. I've tried to keep this as brief as possible, while keeping most of the important details. If you have specific questions, please ask. *** ## Summary I've found evidence for 5 submission bots on r/MarchAgainstTrump. These accounts are responsible for over 4800 posts or 39.5% of all submissions to the sub. Most or all of these are controlled by a moderator. 1. Wondermonkeydans - Moderator and bot master. 2. theIastjedi 3. cereal-reposta 4. Micro_West 5. thisisnatyocheese [This chart](https://imgur.com/RwKypZC) shows total daily submissions and submissions from those accounts. *** ## What are bots? "Bot" refers to an account using some type of automation to post, vote, comment, etc. I'm sure most people have seen u/AutoModerator before. These accounts are like regular Reddit accounts. Real people can sign in and use it like any other account. In this case though, a program is signing in to submit posts. *** ## How do submission bots work? Here's a few examples: 1. They search places like Google/Bing news and post the top results. 2. They follow the RSS feeds from sites like The Washington Post and post new articles as they come in. 3. Reposting from other users on Reddit, like copying from r/EnoughTrumpSpam and r/PoliticalHumor. *** ## How do you identify a submission bot? I look for several things, but the most obvious sign of bot usage is how often they post. Spammers and karma whores might submit a lot of links, but if they're human, there's generally a gap between posts, and they don't post around the clock. *** # The Evidence I analyzed 12,244 submissions from r/MarchAgainstTrump from 2017-01-28 to 2017-05-07 These are the top 15 accounts with the most submissions: Author|Submission Count|First Post|Last Post|Average/Day --|--:|--|--|-- Wondermonkeydans|2105|2017-03-04 08:18:50|2017-05-06 08:34:10|33.4 theIastjedi|992|2017-04-04 22:34:46|2017-05-07 18:21:06|31.0 cereal-reposta|871|2017-03-12 15:50:16|2017-05-07 18:41:24|15.6 Micro_West|478|2017-04-27 16:44:11|2017-05-06 20:03:41|53.1 thisisnatyocheese|405|2017-03-16 17:43:55|2017-05-06 12:05:39|8.1 SnusTheMus|359|2017-02-21 04:03:29|2017-03-21 22:10:28|12.8 Dearest_Caroline|284|2017-02-28 16:30:21|2017-05-06 19:53:47|4.2 hazardnipt|197|2017-01-28 14:00:23|2017-02-17 17:58:32|9.8 dont_tread_on_dc|196|2017-03-01 03:07:16|2017-05-05 14:36:03|3.0 skepticalspectacle1|191|2017-02-20 03:50:34|2017-05-07 17:24:39|2.5 4rch1t3ct|176|2017-03-18 16:03:09|2017-05-07 16:03:15|3.5 lllArkhamKnight|136|2017-02-28 21:52:28|2017-04-14 00:41:01|3.1 barawo33|124|2017-03-22 11:47:35|2017-05-07 19:11:26|2.7 Jar_O_Memes|122|2017-03-03 04:06:56|2017-05-07 16:40:41|1.9 JadeScar|115|2017-03-05 05:09:28|2017-04-25 01:47:51|2.3 Following, is some of evidence and a break down for each of the 5 accounts I've identified as using bots to submit. *** # Wondermonkeydans: Current moderator and top submitter for the sub with far more submissions than any other account. Most of these submissions have since been deleted. * Unlike the other bots, this is their personal account, and they also use it like a normal user would. * From March 4, to May 2, they made over 2100 submissions to MarchAgainstTrump. Averaging over 35 submissions a day. * Most of these are concentrated between March 14 and April 27. [Chart of daily submissions and wondermonkeydans submissions in MarchAgainstTrump](http://imgur.com/vUy9LrQ) Here is one of many instances, where they made submissions faster than what's possible without a program. 9 submissions over 4 seconds (including 4 in 1 second): * 2017-03-16 04:29:04 - MarchAgainstTrump (Wondermonkeydans): ["Republicans skeptical about paying for wall as Trump releases budget"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/5zok6q) * 2017-03-16 04:29:05 - MarchAgainstTrump (Wondermonkeydans): ["In Trumps blueprint to reorder the federal government, echoes of Reagan 81"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/5zok6x) * 2017-03-16 04:29:05 - MarchAgainstTrump (Wondermonkeydans): ["Trump seeks $4.7 billion in cuts to USDA discretionary spending"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/5zok6u) * 2017-03-16 04:29:05 - MarchAgainstTrump (Wondermonkeydans): ["Veterans Affairs budget is in line to grow by 6 percent"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/5zok6s) * 2017-03-16 04:29:06 - MarchAgainstTrump (Wondermonkeydans): ["Where Trump's budget proposal goes next"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/5zok73) * 2017-03-16 04:29:06 - MarchAgainstTrump (Wondermonkeydans): ["Trump's First 100 Days: What the budget reveals about Trump's priorities"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/5zok72) * 2017-03-16 04:29:06 - MarchAgainstTrump (Wondermonkeydans): ["Whats getting cut in Trumps budget"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/5zok71) * 2017-03-16 04:29:06 - MarchAgainstTrump (Wondermonkeydans): ["Trump budget asks for $6 billion in HUD cuts, drops development grants"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/5zok70) * 2017-03-16 04:29:07 - MarchAgainstTrump (Wondermonkeydans): ["Trump's budget plan, by the numbers"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/5zok74) *** ### Micro_West * 478 submissions, all to MarchAgainstTrump * 1 comment ever, in r/LifeProTips (now deleted) * Began posting The day Wondermonkeydans stopped: 2017-04-27 In fact; * Wondermonkeydans last post on that day was at 16:14:21 * Micro_West first post was at 16:44:11 [This chart illustrates that](http://imgur.com/k6jxpWD). Notice how similar their post activity is. Micro_West averaged over 50 submissions a day until a few days ago. Shortly after I [presented this evidence](https://www.reddit.com/r/subredditcancer/comments/69fzzi/manipulation_automation_and_shenanigans_are/dh7wh6i/) to MarchAgainstTrump moderater u/luck_panda, Micro_West stopped posting and began deleting all their posts. Here's [an archive of their user page](https://archive.fo/V2LlY) made about 35 minutes after I made that post. Here they are making 4 submissions in 1 second (one of many examples): * 2017-05-04 19:59:17 - MarchAgainstTrump (Micro_West): ["'I'm President! Can you believe it?' Trump gets excited after AHCA passes House"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/699xn0) * 2017-05-04 19:59:17 - MarchAgainstTrump (Micro_West): ["Trump says House Republicans 'all came together' to pass health-care bill"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/699xmz) * 2017-05-04 19:59:17 - MarchAgainstTrump (Micro_West): ["Trump promises premiums, deductibles will 'come down' under American Health Care Act"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/699xmw) * 2017-05-04 19:59:17 - MarchAgainstTrump (Micro_West): ["Trump: 'We suffered with Obamacare'"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/699xmt) *** ### theIastjedi 1089 total submissions on Reddit Subreddit|Post Count --|-- MarchAgainstTrump|994 marchagainstrump|90 AskReddit|5 [chart](http://imgur.com/SmBRCBm) * No comments in MarchAgainstTrump until May 04, the day after I posted [another report and predicted we'd see the bots comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/subredditcancer/comments/68x3av/botting_ramps_up_in_marchagainsttrump_out_of_the/) * wondermonkeydans replying on the wrong account? https://archive.is/TwYlY Fast posts: 7 submissions in 3 seconds: * 2017-04-20 14:46:28 - MarchAgainstTrump (theIastjedi): ["Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "Why does the liberal media think Bill O'Reilly (@oreillyfactor) is a complete and total vulgarian? I don't think so!""](https://www.reddit.com/comments/66i59y) * 2017-04-20 14:46:28 - MarchAgainstTrump (theIastjedi): ["Stanley Cohen on Twitter: "The lesson Bill OReilly learned, albeit too late, is a serial sex abuser must know when to quit TV and run for president.""](https://www.reddit.com/comments/66i59v) * 2017-04-20 14:46:29 - MarchAgainstTrump (theIastjedi): ["The Patriots visit to the White House Obama Vs Trump"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/66i5a4) * 2017-04-20 14:46:29 - MarchAgainstTrump (theIastjedi): ["An Alt-Right Filmmakers Descent into Madness, Paranoia, and Murder-Suicide: The documentary A Gray State examines the story of David Crowley, an Iraq veteran and alt-right filmmaker whose paranoia consumed him."](https://www.reddit.com/comments/66i59z) * 2017-04-20 14:46:30 - MarchAgainstTrump (theIastjedi): ["The biggest snowflake of all is and forever will be 45"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/66i5a5) * 2017-04-20 14:46:31 - MarchAgainstTrump (theIastjedi): ["Michael McFaul on Twitter: "Trump's been in office 3 months & hasnt even NAMED (let alone confirmed) a Dep Sec for Defense or State. That is crazy. 886 tweets though""](https://www.reddit.com/comments/66i5aa) * 2017-04-20 14:46:31 - MarchAgainstTrump (theIastjedi): ["John Weaver on Twitter: "Christopher Columbus, by Spicer's definition, was on his way to Korea.""](https://www.reddit.com/comments/66i5a6) *** ### cereal-reposta 1927 submissions to Reddit Subreddit|Post Count --|-- redonkulous|1048 MarchAgainstTrump|875 StarWars|2 SelenaGomez|1 pics|1 [chart](http://imgur.com/5ctZIQC) * r/redonkulous was created by and is run by the same people who run MarchAgainstTrump [(proof)](https://archive.is/P0BCp) [(2)](https://imgur.com/7UDqjCe). * In fact, Wondermonkeydans is also a moderator of r/redonkulous. * cereal-reposta's only 3 comments are in r/AskOuija, a subreddit where Wondermonkeydans has 48 comments and 18 submissions. * Former r/MarchAgainstTrump mod u/bcfc1003 claimed u/cereal-reposta belonged to u/Wondermonkeydans (see last section below) Fast posts: 5 submissions over 2 seconds * 2017-04-13 11:27:25 - MarchAgainstTrump (cereal-reposta): ["Because they think he is their new messiah."](https://www.reddit.com/comments/654vjw) * 2017-04-13 11:27:25 - MarchAgainstTrump (cereal-reposta): ["If they had no double-standards, they would none at all."](https://www.reddit.com/comments/654vjt) * 2017-04-13 11:27:26 - MarchAgainstTrump (cereal-reposta): ["Fox News bookclub best seller."](https://www.reddit.com/comments/654vk1) * 2017-04-13 11:27:26 - MarchAgainstTrump (cereal-reposta): ["nice save"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/654vjz) * 2017-04-13 11:27:26 - MarchAgainstTrump (cereal-reposta): ["Sources."](https://www.reddit.com/comments/654vjx) *** ### thisisnatyocheese Another account belonging to Wondermonkeydans. This is some of the evidence linking them (there's a lot more): * 7 of the subreddits created by u/Wondermonkeydans are modded by u/thisisnatyocheese. [(archive)](https://archive.is/NXtPr) * This table shows when the subs were created by u/wondermonkeydans, when they added u/thisisnatyocheese as mod, and the time difference between: Subreddit|Date Created|Moderator added|Time diff(HH:MM:SS) --|--|--|-- ElyseNicoleDufour|2017-02-27 23:27:25+00:00|2017-02-27 23:28:16+00:00|0:00:51 ClaraHurtado|2017-02-26 22:53:38+00:00|2017-02-26 22:57:45+00:00|0:04:07 KeziahRodell|2017-03-01 21:35:19+00:00|2017-03-02 17:09:08+00:00|19:33:49 SarahMorgan|2017-02-26 21:19:53+00:00|2017-02-26 21:27:20+00:00|0:07:27 TrulyFord|2017-03-02 20:36:23+00:00|2017-03-02 20:47:49+00:00|0:11:26 DanniiBarnes|2017-03-02 17:08:29+00:00|2017-03-02 17:09:11+00:00|0:00:42 LiaWhite|2017-03-02 20:47:00+00:00|2017-03-02 20:47:42+00:00|0:00:42 * u/thisisnatyocheese made an r/AskReddit thread March 05 [Reddit, what are your two facts and a lie?](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/5xph68/reddit_what_are_your_two_facts_and_a_lie/) https://archive.is/E0JBb * The top reply to that thread, posted 3 minutes later, is by u/Wondermonkeydans who links to the subreddit: r/2facts1lie [screenshot](http://imgur.com/z83QvZa) * u/Wondermonkeydans is creator and moderator of r/2facts1lie *** * u/thisisnatyocheese made 438 submissions to Reddit. 405 of those to MarchAgaintTrump * They've never commented in MarchAgainstTrump Less submissions than the other accounts, but still used a bot on at least one occasion: 4 submissions over 2 seconds: (3 in 1 second) * 2017-04-06 22:30:17 - MarchAgainstTrump (thisisnatyocheese): ["Trump: 'Something should happen'"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/63wd13) * 2017-04-06 22:30:18 - MarchAgainstTrump (thisisnatyocheese): ["Democrat urges Trump to negotiate with Kim"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/63wd17) * 2017-04-06 22:30:18 - MarchAgainstTrump (thisisnatyocheese): ["Is China stealing US jobs?"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/63wd16) * 2017-04-06 22:30:18 - MarchAgainstTrump (thisisnatyocheese): ["Ivanka: Trump's secret weapon with China?"](https://www.reddit.com/comments/63wd15) *** ## Former moderator bcfc1003 confirms wondermonkeydans is botting. > I'm a former mod of the sub and I can confirm that there's all sorts of upvoting and posting bots going on. Some of the mods have posting bots (I think there's 3 or 4, not too sure on that one) and there's upvote bots as well. # >Not written it down but I've seen it in a discord chat before. **They are wondermonkeydans and cereal-reposta**. There's another one but I can't remember the name. If you look at their posting patterns you'll see. Their top mod admitted they're using bots as well. Guess all I can say is watch their patterns. They spam posts back to back. [(archive)](https://archive.fo/qiYfO) They also made this comment and deleted it before the archive got it: * 2017-05-04 23:36:48 - TheseFuckingAccounts (bcfc1003): ["I know some mods are circumventing bans but that's it really "](https://www.reddit.com/comments/68diqc/c/dh57kch) ***

501 comments

629 u/Hexi_Nova 11 May 2017 18:20
>9 submissions over 4 seconds (including 4 in 1 second) Wow... That alone is highly suspect, but reddit doesn't give a shit.
449 u/bullseyed723 11 May 2017 19:59
Reddit would give a shit if the bot were posting stuff outside of their narrative. But within the narrative, it's ok. Possible reddit even supplied the code for the bots. Would be really interesting to try to get this info into a board meeting or something.
126 u/Hexi_Nova 11 May 2017 20:17
One of the problems with allowing things like this is the other side will eventually learn these same tactics. In essence they created an arms race. So we're currently heading in a direction where both sides will start heavily botting each other. That will destroy what little integrity this site has, open up opportunities for other sites to scoop up reddit's disenfranchised members and sour the milk for potential advertisers. I mean the moment information like this goes public and reddit gets accused of mass botting to boost their figures... advertisers will start steering clear of the site the same way they ran from youtube. So the problem really should be addressed unless reddit wants to become the next MySpace.
18 u/bullseyed723 11 May 2017 20:21
Lots of advertisers agree with The Agenda so I don't think the hit would be that bad. Some of these major newspapers have been shown to be buying web traffic from China and no one has cared so far.
5 u/Hexi_Nova 11 May 2017 20:45
You're really not thinking long term, but I don't give a shit to argue it with you.
96 u/marful 12 May 2017 01:07
And then the "other side" will get banned for breaking the rules... Meanwhile the ones doing it now will get a pass...
37 u/Hexi_Nova 12 May 2017 02:07
I'm sure you can ban people, but they can come right back and bot some more. I mean anyone dedicated to shitposting with a bot could flood multiple areas all at once and more or less pollute the social environment till it becomes toxic. The mods would be constantly burning out trying to prevent it. Which would sour the reddit milk so to say. The_Donald recruits new temp mods every month because they are constantly under attack. So other subs would have to do the same. Another scenario is... you get rid of all the conservative views, but then the SJWs will just go on witch hunts either suspecting conservatives are hiding among them or lashing out at one another for not having the exact same opinion. We've all seen them eat their own and that will also lead to an eventual death. It appears these people with their agenda have diversity in everything except diversity of thought. This website looks more like tumblr everyday.
37 u/nakedtime313 12 May 2017 03:54
Reddit deserves to die by the time this occurs. Its clearly morphed into yet another tool of the mega corps which is the exact opposite ideology it was founded on. Reddit had become Facebook 2.0 and its only a matter of time before the real reddit loyalists migrate to another open market platform. The only question is whether any loyalists are still around or if reddit has become so faecbookized that it's simply too late to get those same people back. My bet is that most have gone back to /pol/ and that the reddit experience which was once so great, has reached its inevitable conclusion: mainstream blah.
23 u/PM_ME_UR_LULU_PORN 12 May 2017 07:37
Aaron Swartz would be fucking sick if he could see what Reddit's become.
3 u/ilmickeyli 12 May 2017 17:01
Definitely wonder what his thoughts/reaction would be when told that spez has done malicious editing to comments and things posted by users..which causes/has caused said users to be very skeptical about some things!!!
1 u/DontTreadOnMe16 12 May 2017 14:22
Voat!
1 u/[deleted] 12 May 2017 15:34
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8 u/LiquidRitz 12 May 2017 12:57
Most large subs (even the Donald) have measures in place to prevent bots. They work very well at the moment. MAT wants the bots, they are moderator controlled.
4 u/GregariousWolf 12 May 2017 13:31
> Which would sour the reddit milk so to say. I agree. All this astroturfing is poisoning the well of political discourse.
6 u/Unstable_Scarlet 12 May 2017 09:13
Actually, TD is already filled with bots... Both are tbh
19 u/Queen_Jezza 12 May 2017 10:11
Evidence?
20 u/KorianHUN 12 May 2017 10:26
Their feelings are the evidence so it must be true.
15 u/fuckdonaldtrump03 12 May 2017 10:30
Didn't you know. T_d are all russian bots /s
5 u/stop_yer_idiocy 12 May 2017 11:44
With like 300 subs or 6 million whatever...
5 u/Doctorbeer2044 12 May 2017 14:04
Confirming I am a Russian bot, Comrade!
6 u/KurtSTi 12 May 2017 16:10
/u/unstable_scarlet has none. It's projection at its finest.
1 u/Unstable_Scarlet 12 May 2017 21:20
Hey my first mention! But yeah, that other comment I just replied to overturned my theory in favor of the "They just don't look at the content" theory
7 u/Sludgy_Veins 12 May 2017 17:18
There is none, the same guy who has been heavily investigating marchagainsttrump was asked to investigate donald. He investigated and came back saying, if it's going on it's way less obvious because he couldn't find anything solid
2 u/Unstable_Scarlet 12 May 2017 21:17
Here's a post from r/enoughtrumpspam https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/587h8f/rthe_donald_claims_its_not_botting_but_has_over/?st=J2MCAFUY&sh=c2e518f4 Then I realized the top comment is right, they're not botting in the script sense, they're just mindlessly upvoting without looking at the content. I got another post about r/marchagainsttrump botting mixed up with TD botting because I'm acomplete idiot who scrolls through the front page too quickly.
6 u/mmatiasn 12 May 2017 12:38
I can guarantee you TD is heavily monitored by Reddit admins for bots. If you appear to be a bot and TD hasn't banned you then an admin will. I ran several tests for a research paper I'm currently working on. So far my results indicate left propaganda bots get banned less often in Reddit vs Voat and vice versa for right propaganda bots.
11 u/Strange_Bedfellow 12 May 2017 09:44
Well yeah, this sub should have been shut down long ago. It's all bots here. Russian bots. I mean, nobody actually likes the guy except Russians, and we are all Russian bots paid for by Putin. Bleep Bloop.
8 u/marful 12 May 2017 11:08
The 'Bleep Bloop' is a dead give away of being a bot... Bleep Bloop...
1 u/greyman42 12 May 2017 16:56
Come on, not all of them are programmed that way, sheesh.. Bloop Bleep
1 u/Fells 12 May 2017 13:10
Lmao
5 u/brentclip 12 May 2017 04:40
So.... Why don't we make sure the advertisers know this....
1 u/Serinus 12 May 2017 06:21
> One of the problems with allowing things like this is the other side will eventually learn these same tactics. Are you from t_d?
16 u/Hexi_Nova 12 May 2017 06:36
It's obvious by a question like that you're just trying to demonize me. So just assume I'm a nazi and if you hear me out... I'm winning because you're playing the game. That is if you're from the doctrination that doesn't listen to opposing views because they are the enemy and you must not have an open dialog with the enemy. So liberalism or scientology. Take your pick. lol
4 u/Serinus 12 May 2017 06:40
Look. The OP is correct in that these are obviously bots. I verified myself that one of them posted 3 articles in 2 seconds. See? I'm already different from t_d. I'm willing to research and agree with facts that don't favor my political ideology. "The other side will eventually learn" You act like both sides haven't been doing this for the entire campaign. It's obvious propaganda and bullshit. Both Hillary and Trump have had shills here since at least the start of t_d. In addition, somehow Trump has managed to turn 4chan into his personal army, which is not something most people familiar with 4chan would have expected. The difference is Hillary's shills and liberal supporters tend to be based on facts. t_d posters start with glaring projection and flat out lying. Not that I'm in favor of shills on either side.
8 u/[deleted] * 12 May 2017 06:51
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15 u/Lightthrower1 12 May 2017 08:02
t_d doesn't have ShareBlue/CTR with 40$ Million in war funds to astroturf Reddit. They actually have passionate members who love Donald Trump. Why can't liberals understand that? Not their fault your candidate was horrible.
1 u/Fells * 12 May 2017 13:15
You realize that CTR was made , not to push a narrative, but to combat the disinformation coming out of Russia and 4chan. It's even in the name "Correct the Record". Furthermore, Donald Trump invested way more than Hillary in digital advertising, paying ex military groups that "weaponize media". T_D is not organic by any means.
8 u/joeltech 12 May 2017 14:43
CTR was made to push a narrative under the guise of stopping misinformation. That's how the globalists operate: accuse your enemy of doing what you do first and louder. It's just like in the corporate world, Human Resources tends to believe whoever came with a complaint first. It's human nature. Break the mold.
6 u/timstolt1 12 May 2017 14:43
Everyone knows CTR went waaaay beyond *correcting the record*. I think CTR/DNC tactics were the catalyst that turned this election into a shit show. That and our fake-fucking news that isn't doing their job. They are screwing over the American people by allowing rigged debates and interviews, and becoming propaganda machines. If nothing else, there is clear push-back due to this propaganda. It's harming truth and trust.
4 u/KurtSTi 12 May 2017 16:12
> You realize that CTR was made , *not to push a narrative* lol
3 u/PM_ME_UR_VIVIAN 12 May 2017 16:36
Literally everything you wrote there is not true.
7 u/Hexi_Nova 12 May 2017 14:13
You don't actually believe that "russian bot" story do you? No one controls 4chan. 4chan does what 4chan wants to do and the fact that lefties have been fucking with 4chan is why they are upset. You can blame feminists for igniting the fire under 4chan's ass. They should have never messed with video games.
2 u/Sludgy_Veins 12 May 2017 17:21
There's literally no evidence of that. Show me one pro-trump post that has made the front page since November. Just one, that's all I ask
3 u/Fells 12 May 2017 13:09
It's cute that you think this hasn't been happening on the other side since the very beginning.
3 u/Hexi_Nova 12 May 2017 14:28
Yeah... I really don't.
6 u/Sludgy_Veins 12 May 2017 17:19
there's no evidence that shows that. How many pro trump posts do you read on the front page here at reddit? Oh that's right, literally not a single one since he's been elected
2 u/[deleted] 12 May 2017 15:22
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3 u/Hexi_Nova 12 May 2017 15:45
You rule your own life. I want nothing to do with it.
1 u/suprunyuck 12 May 2017 16:04
kek
5 u/mike__pants 12 May 2017 16:36
> One of the problems with allowing things like this is the other side will eventually learn these same tactics. Yep. Remember when all the SJWs/mods/etc were clamoring for more censorship power? They were so happy when mods got power to censor. Then the_donald showed up and started using SJW tactics of censorship and these SJWs got banned from the_donald and they started whining and crying and creating shitty subs like bannedfromthe_donald. If politics and these idiot SJWs didn't support censorship so much, the_donald wouldn't exist in the first place and even if they did, the culture of censorship wouldn't exist and the mods on the_donald wouldn't have been able to get away with banning everyone they disagreed with.
5 u/Hexi_Nova 12 May 2017 16:51
This is so true. I've noticed liberals in general don't tend to think ahead before making decisions. Like when they destroyed part of the filibuster system thinking that Hillary would be the next president only to have conservatives take over everything and use their weapons against them. It kinda like dating a girl who cheated on her boyfriend to be with you. If she'll do it with you then she'll do it to you. So it's better to play fair or fuck whores without emotional attachment.
2 u/Sludgy_Veins 12 May 2017 17:16
The real problem is that right now most people agree with the narrative reddit admins want to push, so they're not doing anything about it. What these people need to realize is they won't agree with reddit's narrative every time they have something to push, and eventually it's going to be over something they don't like - but by then it will be too late. The precedent was set/is being set right now
2 u/Hexi_Nova 12 May 2017 17:36
Exactly! It happens to liberals all the time. They join the group because they want to part of some cause they believe is noble. Then the group narrative changes, they don't agree with the new narrative and find themselves being labeled the enemy. The tools they once thought were fair to use are now used against them and they realize (all too late) that it's wrong. It's "good intentions" instead of good actions that lead people to ruin.
0 u/[deleted] 12 May 2017 22:37
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15 u/vikinick 12 May 2017 03:14
Reddit doesn't give a shit if it's a posting bot in your own subreddit. They only care if the bot is voting on submissions.
3 u/Sludgy_Veins 12 May 2017 17:22
If you think it's posting 4 articles in 1 second, but not also upvoting other posts, I don't know what to tell you
1 u/vikinick 12 May 2017 17:34
Trust me, if there was upvote fuckery specific to those accounts and it was constant, Reddit sniffs it out.
6 u/Loki_d20 12 May 2017 03:56
Reddit doesn't care about narrative, they only care about # of complaints. Individual subreddits have narrative issues, but reddit only has a complaint issue. I'm hoping MAT gets put on the same filter as those who are removed from popular.
11 u/MeeMeeMeeMeeMeeMee * 12 May 2017 05:41
http://archive.is/GZBCq#selection-3580.0-3580.3 <-Anti-trump mod of marchagainsttrump admitting to organizing voting brigades contrary to [reddit rules.](https://reddit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/205192985) That guy demodded themselves as he promised in the post (when it reached 100k upvotes) but is most likely back under a different name. https://archive.is/KjbGQ There was also this https://np.reddit.com/r/TheseFuckingAccounts/comments/68diqc/something_fucky_in_rmarchagainsttrump_part_1_out/
16 u/NextQubit 12 May 2017 04:14
I am baffled. t_d isn't following reddit great narrative, but it's still here. Educate me please.
14 u/Br0metheus 12 May 2017 05:26
Its because the continued toleration of T_D doesn't fit the narrative of the guy you're responding to. He's ignoring evidence and playing the victim, as per usual for reddit partisans.
19 u/BloedeKuh 12 May 2017 07:40
... Yeah, no. They are doing everything they can short of deleting it so they can continue making money off the advertising on it. They're afraid of the backlash as well.
42 u/yavnik 12 May 2017 06:00
Since I'm not sure about the risk of specifically linking TD, you can find the citation for the below data by searching TD for "over 6,000,000 subscribers" TD is at a minimum competitive with politics for advertiser-generating site share. Closing TD would lead to a temporary surge as it would be relatively big internet news, but the temporary gain would not be commensurate in the long-term loss from losing TD. This might be the only true impact of its closure, but it can be said to be objectively derived. If reddit closes an area that they sell advertisements for, they can no longer make money from it. Thanks to repeated blog posts, the reddit administrators as good as explicitly described the methods they would use to prevent TD from being able to reach the front page, and the several occasions of clear administrative-level voting system changes to affect TD are well chronicled, the most infamous being Trump's automatically-set-to-zero presidential portrait. There is not a confession, but the results are sufficient evidence of deliberate intervention. This post provides further evidence to that point. Finally, reddit is likely fearful of consequences that would come from closing TD. I think reddit would recover quickly enough, but the quite appropriate fear would be that its closure would lead to a power vacuum. Certain subreddits would be trolled to inoperable states. Administrators and moderators would be doxxed and targeted with harassment. The site would probably be hit with black hat attacks, making dealing with all the trolling even more difficult, people like Chuck Johnson/Pax Dickinson & Mike Cernovich would likely assist in lawsuits being brought against reddit, which while ultimately fruitless would cost the site more to deal with than the plaintiffs. It could also be a boon for competition, and if one site took hold fast enough that alone could kill reddit. That's their fear. I don't think it would happen, but you can understand why they would be trepidatious about the risk.
7 u/Troy_And_Abed_In_The 12 May 2017 15:21
Not to mention, I think our *president* might have something to say about the closing of one of--if not his largest online fan site.
25 u/Terminal-Psychosis * 12 May 2017 06:25
Imagine the news shit storm. Reddit banning the site where POTUS did his AMA would be a public relations nightmare. Bad for business. So the admins simply try to bury it, again and again, with shady software "updates", while allowing / encouraging actually abusive subs to run amok.
21 u/Lightthrower1 12 May 2017 08:06
Read the admin chat logs that leaked, you'll understand. They are very scared. https://archive.fo/ZmULb
27 u/Phoenixed * 12 May 2017 08:22
- It's there but reddit changed rules at least two times already to keep it off the front page. You'd think that t_d consistently reaching top means a good part of reddit agrees with it (democracy and all) but since reddit admins are severely anti-T, they cannot tolerate it. - A previously paid feature - subreddit filtering - was made available for free specifically due to t_d. - Something's fucky going on with subscriber counts as shown by the advertiser page. Numbers to advertisers are shown bigger than to subscribers. Even if it's just a global bug or something, t_d's number disparity is the biggest – 400k versus 6 million. - Also, t_d is kept off r/popular but anti-T subs aren't. All in all, reddit *would like* to remove t_d (there even were discord screenshots confirming it), but t_d got too big to fail. Reddit would need for t_d to somehow fuck up, bigly. That, or to plant "evidence" themselves. Knowing that Spez was editing people's comments willy nilly, anything's possible. While trying to label Pepe as a "hate symbol" is not reddit's work, it's one of the ways to do it. Remove t_d because it posts "racist" symbol, for example.
1 u/Dutch_Diplomat 12 May 2017 21:51
You got a link to those screenshots? I'd love to see them
1 u/Phoenixed 13 May 2017 08:58
https://i.reddituploads.com/3f8f08200f684be7bfdf0c9e44703485?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=0b2d04866e0ea9302cdc2115849ec731
1 u/Dutch_Diplomat 13 May 2017 10:44
fuck me sideways...
9 u/ITworksGuys 12 May 2017 11:30
Because it is everything short of sequestered. It won't show on popular, the admins have tweaked the algorithm many times to keep it off of /r/all front page, they completely weigh the votes differently as well. They don't ban it because it is one of if not the most active sub here and they want that ad money and to keep 400,000 (at a minimum) angry people off other subs.
2 u/Sludgy_Veins 12 May 2017 17:24
where is it? How do I find a post of their without literally googling reddit the_donald? You can't because they've prevented their posts from reaching the masses. How are you this blind? They did everything they could to shun them without causing the massive shit storm deleting them would have caused
4 u/cheeeeeese 12 May 2017 04:18
> Possible reddit even supplied the code for the bots. there are plenty of open source reddit bots out there
2 u/Hi_mom1 12 May 2017 05:44
> Reddit would give a shit if the bot were posting stuff outside of their narrative Do you really think it's about the narrative or about what drives revenue and what doesn't. For example, if it went against the narrative but brought lots of advertisers, do you think Reddit would allow it?
2 u/Sludgy_Veins 12 May 2017 17:26
do you really think advertisers care about shitposts from marchagainsttrump? It's active user base is low compared to most subreddits. It's honestly laughable you think that's what the advertisers want
1 u/Hi_mom1 12 May 2017 22:08
Are you fucking retarded? My question was whether Reddit gives a shit about a narrative or just traffic.
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5 u/bacondev * 12 May 2017 09:26
> Possible reddit even supplied the code for the bots. With a basic understanding of the reddit bot community (if you want to call it that), you'll see that there is already code out there for stuff like this. Just need a few modifications to make it work the way you want it to. Possible? Technically. Plausible? No way. Can you imagine the PR disaster that would ensue if that were to get out? In the end, reddit, inc. cares about reddit, inc. first. There's no tangible reason to believe that reddit, inc. is involved with this.
3 u/bullseyed723 12 May 2017 12:11
> there is already code out there for stuff like this And how much of that code is written by current members of mod or admin teams?
1 u/NiteNiteSooty 12 May 2017 10:57
> Possible reddit even supplied the code for the bots. is that like saying its also possible the reddit admins were involved in the boston marathon bombing or is there actually something to suggest the admins are supplying people with bots?
1 u/derek_32999 12 May 2017 11:21
But hasn't The_d and similar subs run rampant upvoting all kinds of trump material whether in their sub or just trolling other subs? Narrative isn't the only reason to censor. T_D is one of the most annoying subs ever if you aren't a die hard trump supporter
1 u/Deeptrance83 12 May 2017 11:49
Don't forget about her emails and pizzagate while you're spinning that yarn of bullshit.
2 u/LiquidRitz 12 May 2017 12:55
You can set this up on your phone using IFTTT. It takes about 10 minutes to make a bot account with no coding at all.
0 u/GildToDeleteAccount 12 May 2017 13:14
That's weird, this post is on the front page. Guess reddit does give a shit, despite *your* narrative ^^^mmm ^^^that ^^^delicious ^^^irony
3 u/bullseyed723 12 May 2017 13:17
> That's weird, this post is on the front page. Are you accusing Spez of curating the content on the front page? Editing votes? Do you have any proof of these claims?
0 u/GildToDeleteAccount 12 May 2017 13:22
What are you talking about. I'm pointing out how you said reddit won't give a shit, and here I am commenting after being linked from the front page. Clearly reddit gave a shit, making you wrong. Leave me out of your conspiracy theories beyond that.
3 u/bullseyed723 12 May 2017 13:41
Reddit is a company and has nothing to do with what is on the front page, unless they're manipulating votes.
1 u/GildToDeleteAccount 12 May 2017 13:45
Ah Reddit the company not Reddit the community, I see what you're saying now.
4 u/mike__pants 12 May 2017 16:34
> Reddit would give a shit if the bot were posting stuff outside of their narrative. But within the narrative, it's ok. Many of the admins are even modding some of these subs. Besides, many of the mods on default subs don't even hide their bias. During the trumpcare voting/etc a few days ago, many of these mods were on politics telling everyone to call their congressman to vote against it.
2 u/rreeeeeee 12 May 2017 19:23
nothing wrong with that. it's a bad bill that no one wanted.
1 u/Muslerra 12 May 2017 21:39
Jackdaws not crows
11 u/Maxmidget 12 May 2017 03:49
Wait, is that even possible? Reddit prevents you from posting another link like 60s later.
5 u/Terminal-Psychosis 12 May 2017 06:27
That is on a sub by sub basis.
35 u/mep8 12 May 2017 04:32
Wrong, reddit very much gives a shit. The admins, led by super cuck spez are in 100% support of this and go to great lengths to hide it or act like it's not happening.
6 u/aenigme 12 May 2017 05:45
Plus, there is a simple solution. Captcha.
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1 u/classy360yolonoscope 12 May 2017 06:32
> That alone is highly suspect, but reddit doesn't give a shit. You're reading this on reddit.
3 u/Hexi_Nova 12 May 2017 06:33
I only shitpost on reddit.
10 u/showmeurboobsplznthx 12 May 2017 07:32
As long as it's anti Republican...
15 u/Timeforadrinkorthree 12 May 2017 10:16
Surprised? Look back at the last 12 months. Reddit algorithms, censorship, even US News now in Worldnews if it is against Trump (double standards). Reddit is fucked.
5 u/Hexi_Nova 12 May 2017 14:22
Sad but true. People see that though and only the dimmed witted approve.
6 u/[deleted] 12 May 2017 10:30
That's because it was a reddit employee. There are filters to prevent submitting stuff that fast. "You're doing that too much. Please try again in x minutes."
1 u/Hexi_Nova 12 May 2017 14:23
I don't make bots, but I'm sure you could have multiple bots begin posting all at once. There's always a script waiting to exe.
4 u/Compl3t3lyInnocent 12 May 2017 13:03
Trust me, Reddit would give a shit if this bot were pushing a narrative contrary to Reddit's interests. Then it would be banned for abusing their resources.
4 u/choomguy 12 May 2017 13:17
If by "highly suspect", you mean, "damning concrete evidence" then yeah, i agree, its "highly suspect".
4 u/totallynotarobotnope 12 May 2017 17:22
A great way to make it appear as if there is a huge number of people who are posting against trump, but its a house of lies.
211 u/RIPSpaceBat 11 May 2017 19:47
Hillary's side used bots and paid authors to make this place pro Hillary during the election. They haven't stopped.
117 u/mack2nite 12 May 2017 02:34
Pretty much ruined any real dialogue on serious subjects. r/news r/worldnews and r/politics are essentially hot garbage thanks to ongoing shady tactics from last year's race. Most disappointing of all was the post-election reddit admin response to manipulate the site to suppress voices whom they don't agree with.
10 u/Troy_And_Abed_In_The 12 May 2017 15:23
I have evidence of that if anyone here is curious. r/technology too. Idk if it's been posted before.
5 u/KurtSTi 12 May 2017 16:16
Don't forget /r/Alternativefacts /r/BannedFromThe_Donald /r/bidenbro /r/Drumpf /r/EnoughTrumpSpam /r/esist /r/Fuckthealtright /r/hillaryclinton /r/Impeach_Trump /r/LateStageCapitalism /r/MarchAgainstTrump /r/PoliticalHumor /r/politics /r/ShitThe_DonaldSays /r/TinyTrumps /r/todayilearned /r/TopMindsOfReddit and /r/Trumpgret
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6 u/slinkymaster 12 May 2017 17:15
my use of reddit has dramatically dropped since the election because of this.
2 u/mack2nite 12 May 2017 18:31
I feel you. Mine has dropped and I shifted towards the least politicized subs.
15 u/Serinus 12 May 2017 06:23
>Hillary's side You think people aren't getting paid for t_d posting?
68 u/SuperMar1o 12 May 2017 06:33
Positive
65 u/victorfiction 12 May 2017 07:18
Trolling is an art. Those guys take a freighting amount of pride in their shit posts. EnoughTS is just a sad corporate clone. Don't confuse this with liking them but T_D deserves credit for successfully being 4chan lite and doing an impressive push on a hostile platform.
11 u/noPENGSinALASKA 12 May 2017 13:02
Trolling is a* art Cmon man get the phrase correct ;)
1 u/victorfiction 12 May 2017 16:36
Theirs nothing wrong with making it an art.
2 u/PM_ME_UR_VIVIAN 12 May 2017 16:42
\> grammar naziism intensifies
1 u/OptimusOnline 12 May 2017 12:52
There are literally video interviews with paid shitposters in Russia discussing their πŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί-govt sponsored posting supporting Trump. Yes there are also lots of true believers. But at least during the election also lots of paid trolls.
50 u/trash-80 12 May 2017 06:47
No, truth be told that place is completely full of true believers. And it is all organic posting. It is literally the only place on the internet besides 4chan where trump supporters can go. It is a highly consolidated base
1 u/Serinus † 12 May 2017 06:48
> And it is all organic posting. I promise you it's not. Most of it is organic, sure. But I guarantee there are campaign staff helping to start it and run it.
48 u/oiimn 12 May 2017 07:04
Prove it then. Don't just throw around baseless claims, prove it or stfu
18 u/BloedeKuh 12 May 2017 07:42
In your dreams. Fortunately, the rest of us are forced to abide by the laws of reality.
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1 u/xydroh 12 May 2017 09:30
I think most of the content is but there's a lot of upvote bots, same goes for a lot of other subs too
20 u/nogods_nokings 12 May 2017 10:30
there must be downvote bots as well then, because it's nearly impossible to get the upvote count to go above 10k. and there also must be some kind of algorithm to keep the number of subs below 400k. if there was the kind of fuckery in t_d that is in these anti-trump subs, it would be all over reddit. it's not, so i have to believe it there isn't.
3 u/xydroh 12 May 2017 10:33
>here must be downvote bots as well then, because it's nearly impossible to get the upvote count to go above 10k. I have no idea because I don't post in T_D but I can imagine, I used to see the post on frontpage every day and now they're always showing up first thing on the second page. >there also must be some kind of algorithm to keep the number of subs below 400k. That hasn't do much with actual bots and more reddit algorithms but good luck proving that one.
13 u/REDDITS_COMPROMISED * 12 May 2017 12:29
[Are you really this new? Already been done.](https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/62louf/rt_d_has_over_6000000_subscribers_suppressed_by/) Edit: And reddit removed the ability to do this check once they realized the numbers were public LOL. [Proof from a screenshot at the time.](http://imgur.com/a/1NXup)
0 u/xydroh 12 May 2017 12:33
This 'evidence' can be written of, just like the reddit CEO did, just call it an incorrect number and finished. This is not irrefutable evidence, it's a good indicator there's something fishy going on but that's about it. I wish it could be proven but now it's just our word against spez and we will never win that without something to back us up.
11 u/REDDITS_COMPROMISED 12 May 2017 13:11
Right, their changing the functionality of the page doesn't prove anything, hold on let me get it notarized, ok?
7 u/PM_ME_UR_BIRD 12 May 2017 06:52
where's my check
5 u/Hunterogz 12 May 2017 06:53
To concern troll and create strawmans maybe.
17 u/BloedeKuh 12 May 2017 07:41
How do I get paid to shitpost? I must be missing out. Weak argument ya got there, friend.
38 u/crackinthedam 12 May 2017 07:45
Look at the numbers on the T_D front page. Every post has over 1500 upvotes, most have several thousand, and a few have over 10K. That's what organic activity looks like. Then look at the numbers on r\esist, r\MarchAgainstTrump, or any of the other dozens of anti-Trump shill reddits. There will be dozens of posts with <100 upvotes and one with 20K+ that's on the front page. That's what a few shills in control of a giant upvote botnet looks like.
6 u/fuckyourcatsnigga 12 May 2017 09:17
It's weird because I see this claim from both sides. And evidence for both sides claims...I've seen t_d post with literally 3 comments and thousands of up votes.
42 u/crackinthedam 12 May 2017 10:30
I'm looking at the front page of The_Donald right now. 2K to 14K upvotes per post, 23 to 801 comments per article. 400K subscribers and 3,350 online. I'm looking at the front page of MarchAgainstTrump now. 10 (yes, ten) to 285 upvotes per post, zero to 58 comments, **except for two posts with 20K and 26K upvotes, both of which made r\all.** 53K subscribers, 1,300 online. Now, the front page of r\esist. 7 (yes, seven) to 274 upvotes per post, **except for two posts with 30K upvotes each, both of which made r\all.** 83K subscribers, 236 online. r\esist is even more blatant than MAT. A sub with literally 7% of the active users and an average upvote count in the dozens can vault two articles to all with an upvote count *unachievable by a sub with 14 times the active users*?
3 u/NoobInGame 12 May 2017 13:27
I wonder if certain type of person is more likely to upvote posts. t_d could be extremely united for the cause, since they believe everyone is against them. Which post is more likely to succeed in reddit.com overall?
1 u/PiercePyrite 12 May 2017 09:51
I don't know about that. I think they are just using different tactics to different ends. MAT bots seem to be for the sake of karma-whoring. That's the only benefit to submitting articles en masse and not using the same bots to upvote every single post. t_D has been dedicated to pushing all other content off the front page. There were times when every single front page post in All was a t_D post. Pretty obvious bullshittery IMO.
20 u/crackinthedam 12 May 2017 10:19
The reason the front page was all T_D, *which was only for a few hours one day,* was when Reddit changed "the algorithm" to keep T_D articles off the front page but screwed up the code and made EVERY front page article from T_D instead. They "fixed" it in a few hours so that it had its intended effect of censoring T_D. T_D has been artificially banned from r\all for months, and r\popular was created specifically to keep it off the front page. Upvote botting wouldn't do anything even if it did happen. Think about it. T_D is the biggest non-default sub and the most active sub. Is it really a surprise that it would thus dominate r\all organically unless they deliberately censored it, which the admins admit to having done on multiple occasions?
7 u/headlineisBULLSHIT 12 May 2017 08:41
If you think that still you're blind.
8 u/MisterMeatloaf 12 May 2017 09:42
Yep. They don't need to, there are a squillion Trump supporters online. There were fuck all Hillary supporters. No one liked her.
3 u/RIPSpaceBat 12 May 2017 18:38
They'd be silly not to. Difference is that Hillary botters and shills are fucking rude condescending shitheels that spent more time attacking dems that didn't worship her criminal feet than they did TD people.
207 u/JordanUhlVerified 12 May 2017 03:50
oh wow. u mean the sub that posts 'trump r russian puppet' 5 times a day and gets 60k upvotes each time is botting? crazy. who knew?
91 u/fumar 12 May 2017 05:00
They get more upvotes than they have subs by a wide margin. But the admins are ok with it because it's anti-Trump.
2 u/kingdomart 30 May 2017 18:28
>They get more upvotes than they have subs by a wide margin. That's because their posts hit r/all.
52 u/JohnCoffee23 12 May 2017 05:44
It's so obvious yet your average redditard just has no clue. They always respond with "well did you ever think people just really hate Trump?!" as if that explains the 50+ anti-trump subs continually botting posts in the thousands.
9 u/JordanUhlVerified 12 May 2017 13:25
i dont think those are avg redditors. paid to be oblivious. but yea i feel what you mean. avg person doesnt know better i suppose.
6 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 15:34
>They always respond with "well did you ever think people just really hate Trump?!" They get very triggered when I respond with "You have to REALLY hate Trump a lot to be able to summon the ability to create 7 submissions in 1 second"
2 u/evilfetus01 12 May 2017 17:10
They want the echo chamber to feel bigger than it is.
123 u/johnchapel 11 May 2017 20:05
I think its hilarious. They have so little support and groundswell on the left because of their fucked and dying ideology that they have to fake their own existance.
47 u/[deleted] 12 May 2017 02:51
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39 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 02:55
The bots in T_d are not our bots. They're downvote bots. It's constantly scraped to prove this. TDs posters are legit.
8 u/dubmau5 12 May 2017 03:22
Lol really man. It goes both ways.
43 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 03:26
Not comparatively. Spez already got caught hiding the TD numbers, and MAT got caught being an almost entirely bot populated sub. I mean shit, trump won dude. We don't need bots. We had the votes. More importantly though, "they did it too" isn't actually an argument. We're adults. I shouldn't have to tell you that two wrongs don't make a right. Supposing even in the wildest fantasy that TD is a bot sub, which it isn't, that doesn't make MAT legit. If you want to complain about TDs bots, scrape the sub, find whatever evidence you can and make a thread about it. This thread, however, is about MAT being almost entirely fake
-2 u/Jffar † 12 May 2017 03:37
Seriously? It's the entire argument for most of the Republican agenda right now. Oh, you changed the rules for lower court judges? So can we! Oh, you forced through an unpopular health care bill? So can we! Oh, you want to extend the war in Afghanistan? So can we! Oh, you have a corrupt presidential candidate? So can.... wait a minute....
34 u/nakedtime313 12 May 2017 03:57
FYI, T_D are not republicans. As much as people would like to apply that label, its simply not true. Most of them hate most republicans and the GOP.
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16 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 04:50
Fuck I love this comment
12 u/Kasarii 12 May 2017 06:02
Wish I could upvote this more.
2 u/nogods_nokings 12 May 2017 10:53
i'm sure there's a bot for that.
5 u/blackjackjester 12 May 2017 12:26
Can confirm. Ryan, McCain, McConnell and the rest of the GOP lot are cancer.
12 u/bottomlines 12 May 2017 04:10
Serious question - why not? Democrats are going to ram through anything they can, at all costs. So why does Trump need to take the high road? His opponents are doing **everything** they can to stop his progress. If it's a fight, he should play dirty right back at them.
4 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 04:50
Yes. Seriously
9 u/JohnCoffee23 12 May 2017 06:04
You can't just say it goes both ways and then expect us to believe you.
78 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 03:25
Why would conservatives pay for bots to support a candidate they don't like who already won? Sometimes the easy answers are the right ones.
6 u/JordanUhlVerified 12 May 2017 03:51
the war isnt over. supporters on both sides have flaws.
19 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 03:54
Okay but that's not what I'm talking about lol. You don't realize that Trump supporters literally meme'd their way to the White House while y'all were over there in Massachusetts dumping money into Bernie's account who swiftly gave it all to Hillary and fell in line
11 u/JordanUhlVerified 12 May 2017 04:02
bro i audit governments and work hard as fuck. im working a shit job so i can learn how governments operate in the hopes of getting into politics. assuming i support bernie is dumb as fuck. hes a senile old fool. i fucking love trump too. saw him at a florida rally a few months ago. i disagree with supporters on both sides at this point. everyone has an opinion and they always overstate it. i dont need that shit. i appreciate hannity rush and tucker and that is about it. everyone else talks out their ass. they memed yea. but the 50 million people in the rural parts of america give 0 fucks about that. silent majority did more than memes. adults were the bulk of the vote. the youngsters getting involved just was the deciding swing to trumps favor. its similar to obama using fb to win. yea it helped a bunch but wasnt as significant as you give it credit imo. when i say the war isnt over, i mean every shitlib talking point is being refuted. argued for days. thats a waste of time and man hours. people take shortcuts and try to use bots and push stuff to refute it, they think they need to go to the enemy level to win. i believe its better to ignore it and move on. ignore the noise, focus on the goals. we dont have the time or resources to waste on arguing with idiots who cannot be convinced they are wrong. we only have 4 years dude unless good starts happening. get the tax reform out asap and make healthcare agreeable for more people. thats a good start. the economy will boom if he can nail those 2 things. worry about nothing else until you are good on those imo.
5 u/a_n_o_n 12 May 2017 04:25
http://imgur.com/kw5JzkE
6 u/JordanUhlVerified 12 May 2017 04:32
was i talking to u? u post this on every comment?
1 u/FieryHalapano 12 May 2017 05:44
Good points!
0 u/Br0metheus 12 May 2017 05:32
Funny, I didn't realize that leaking one side's dirty laundry emails counted as "memeing"
2 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 06:14
Making light of emails whatever. basically we aired dirty laundry while everyone else was complaining how Trump "shouldn't" be going up in the polls and convinced themselves that it was because they weren't giving enough money.
1 u/Br0metheus 12 May 2017 07:31
My point was more along the lines of that the GOP definitely has equally-sketchy shit going on, and pretending that the DNC is fucked up but the GOP isn't is nothing less than a smear job. I don't defend how the DNC operates, but I also don't pretend like the Republicans are any different in the dark. You're not one bit concerned with transparency, truth, or accountability. You just want to *win* out of sheer partisanship, and are completely willing to apply a double standard if it suits your needs.
1 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 07:38
To address your first point, yeah definitely. You'd be a fool to claim any political group ever doesn't do sketchy shit. I meant more how reddit/GOP was doing more typical dirt digging while the media/DNC was doing some wayyyy sketchy shit like slanting news and straight up rigging the election against Bernie (not that I like the dude but doesn't matter). As to your second point I mean yes, to an extent. I want to win of course. And unlike most people here, I'll admit I'm okay with taking a few shortcuts if the net benefit to America is positive. The thing is, I really do believe Trump will drain the swamp. But part of draining the swamp is transparency, which is something I missed since I didn't get it after our last president immediately sealed his records after taking office.
1 u/nakedtime313 12 May 2017 03:56
I think there's a name for that...
3 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 03:59
Pretty sure it's occam's razor but I'm not entirely sober
2 u/Tasty_Jesus 12 May 2017 04:01
Yes... why would those conservatives pay? Let's expend all of our mental capacity in trying to solve this mysterious riddle! Иван, ΠΎΠ½ Ρ€Π°Π±ΠΎΡ‚Π°Π΅Ρ‚
6 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 04:17
Can you explain what you're trying to tell me in English?
5 u/iBleeedorange 12 May 2017 04:37
Not saying that they are botting, but there are potential reasons. To keep a narrative going, to try and increase ratings, to push a new narrative, etc.
7 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 05:01
It just doesn't seem likely that botting reddit would have a significant impact on opinion opinion considering the dollars spent. Better off just buying a tv spot.
7 u/__Noodles 12 May 2017 05:50
I think you very much underestimate just how much insecure people like the echo chamber. Bottling and manipulation very much have an impact.
2 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 06:13
Actually you're right, I'll give you some credit on that one. I guess I should've been more clear, I don't think reddit has a very wide or diverse audience that's likely to change it's mind.
6 u/Serinus 12 May 2017 06:24
Politics aren't about people changing their minds. Getting someone to switch from D to R or vice versa is nearly impossible. Setting a narrative on particular issues and getting your own people to vote/support your things is the goal.
2 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 06:39
Idk about you my goal is to show people a angle they haven't thought of. Sure everyone loves free college but if they considered maybe other ways we can achieve the same thing or the impact of the costs of the program? That's what I want to show people. People are going to tow the line, or oppose it the same way they are going to support or oppose the parties.
2 u/BloedeKuh 12 May 2017 07:46
And that kind of thinking is exactly why Hillary lost. Your supporters are going to vote for you. No shit.
12 u/Br0metheus 12 May 2017 05:29
Why would liberals do the same for a candidate who already lost? Just because the election is over doesn't mean that the propaganda machines stop.
11 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 06:16
Well yeah 100% but it's more effective to spend money on current issues that actually matter ie Russia, healthcare, the Wall, etc. Not some election that ended last November and is all but irrelevant in popular opinion.
2 u/Br0metheus 12 May 2017 07:23
So what are you saying? Even as the actual issues under discussion change, both sides have resorted to utterly manipulative and deceptive tactics. Both sides have the same incentives and resources to pull the same underhanded shit, so they **both** do it. Saying that The Donald is any less manipulated than MAT is just being blind, and saying that it doesn't matter is pure hypocrisy.
6 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 07:28
I mean I'm not denying you're claim because I don't know information about it either way, but I never did claim that. I"m just saying that if Trump's "boys" are playing the spin game it sure as hell isn't on one of the most liberal sites on the planet with a documented bias against conservatives, commenting on random shit on a biased subreddit just **hoping** somebody reads it who's receptive to the idea and **maybe** their mind will be changed.
3 u/Br0metheus 12 May 2017 07:48
You were *literally* just saying how you "meme'd your way to the White House." Now you're telling me "Reddit is too liberal, we would never operate here." So which is it? It can't be both. Or are you too mired in the doublethink to realize the inherent contradiction there? Thing is, Reddit isn't actually that liberal, on the whole. I say this as a registered Republican. It may lean left, but it's far from a monolithic community; it has pockets of pretty much anything you want, if you know where to look. If there's a liberal lean in the user base overall, it's because the users are generally young, and young people are generally more liberal. And yet somehow, in this "liberal" site, it's nearly impossible to get a word out without some Trump-stumper jumping into the thread with vitriol about how we're all "cucks" and "shills" and whatnot. But sure, keep telling yourself that is everybody else that's the problem.
3 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 07:53
> Now you're telling me "Reddit is too liberal, we would never operate here." So which is it? It can't be both. Okay idk what you're talking about for the rest of your post so I'll address this. I mean the bots wouldn't work on Reddit. The Donald was fueled by real, live people. Bots wouldn't function in this climate, only real people made it happen. Aka the silent majority isn't so silent anymore.
1 u/Br0metheus 12 May 2017 17:36
> I mean the bots wouldn't work on Reddit. Not quite sure what you mean by this, considering that the very post we're commenting on is proof that bots *do* work on Reddit. > The Donald was fueled by real, live people. Bots wouldn't function in this climate, only real people made it happen. Even if the posts in T_D were made by real people, they still purposefully gamed the system in bad faith. As I understand it, T_D operated by getting their entire userbase to just upvote *everything*, which basically turned the sub into a conveyor belt to put shitposts on the frontpage. Maybe the voting was supplemented by bots, or maybe it was just real people with a comparable capacity for independent thought as bots (which is to say, very little). It doesn't really matter, because the end result was the subversion of an algorithm that assumed that a sub of that size would never be able to act with that degree of cohesion. T_D found the flaw in the system, exploited it, and the mods finally patched it when they updated the algorithm. The algorithm wasn't modified to suppress T_D itself, it was modified to cut the legs out from a Reddit-breaking mob behavior of which T_D was the innovator. > Aka the silent majority isn't so silent anymore. Except you're so very clearly *not* the majority. You lost the popular vote in the election. Trump has [an absurdly low approval rating.](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/) You're not a "majority" by any definition, you're a *minority* that has gotten extremely good at making a lot of noise.
1 u/Rich77u 13 May 2017 19:48
> You lost the popular vote in the election Ok yes but you realized 63 million people still vote red right?
1 u/Br0metheus 16 May 2017 06:13
Dude, are you listening to yourself? Go back and look through this conversation; virtually everything you've said has been misleading, blatantly false, missing the point, and now you're just dodging. Okay, 63 million people voted for Trump. So what? What's your point? That there's a lot of you? Well, there's several million more people who voted *against* him, so what does that tell you?
1 u/Rich77u 17 May 2017 23:12
My point Trump "lost" the popular vote by hardly 4% and probably wouldn't have lost at all if we had some semblance of voter ID laws in America, but apparently those are racist.
2 u/Br0metheus 18 May 2017 04:12
Oh yes, the tired old "allege massive voter fraud without a shred of evidence" argument. Please. If you seriously believe that, then I've got a bridge to sell you. If you actually gave a shit about the democratic process, you'd be pushing for campaign finance reform and anti-gerrymandering laws. But no, you'd rather blame it all on the boogeyman. Voter ID laws aren't just racist, they fuck over everybody on the lower end of society. All those laws do is make people jump through a bunch of unnecessary bureaucratic hoops in order to claim their *constitutionally guaranteed* right to vote. If you're poor, if you've got to work two jobs, if you're in any sort of situation where you don't have a lot of disposable time to navigate a labyrinth of paperwork, you're much less likely to make it to the polls. We don't have enough Americans voting as it is, and you want to make it even harder? Come the fuck on. It's a smokescreen. You won the fucking election on a technicality and you're *still* alleging fraud? Are you kidding me? Even when you *win* you play the victim card. Un-fucking-real, you are. You're so deep in denial that you can't even begin to comprehend your own inconsistency.
2 u/blackjackjester 12 May 2017 12:21
The thing about Reddit, and most of the internet, is that the majority rules. 51% of people can nearly completely silence the 49% because no conservative post would get traction. Its called "tyranny of the majority" and it's actually why the Electoral College and the senate exists. It sounds like you just really don't like the culture of T_D, and that's fine, but there is no contradiction between calling Reddit overly liberal, and T_D attempting to take credit for "memeing Trump to the White House"
1 u/Br0metheus 12 May 2017 16:55
> 51% of people can nearly completely silence the 49% because no conservative post would get traction. I'd say that T_D is pretty far from "silenced," even after the algorithm changes. "Normalized the volume" might be a better description, because those algorithm changes were basically only made because T_D exposed a flaw in the algorithm itself: if you had a large enough sub and you just upvoted *everything*, you could basically make a conveyor belt to get posts to the frontpage of r/all. The algorithm was designed with the assumption that a group of that size would never act as a monolith, but clearly that assumption was wrong. It's the "Zerg rush" approach to visibility, and it undermines the nominal purpose of the algorithm of selecting quality content. The way I see it, T_D found an exploit, and the admins patched it. > It sounds like you just really don't like the culture of T_D, and that's fine, but there is no contradiction between calling Reddit overly liberal, and T_D attempting to take credit for "memeing Trump to the White House" You're right, it is the culture that I have a problem with. I'm fine with opposing political views, even if I disagree with them, but it's their behavior that I find intolerable. The brigading, their paranoia, and their constant antagonism towards anybody who doesn't 100% agree with them; it's all just a political palette-swap of every intellectual sin that they project onto the Left. If there's one thing that I can't stand, it's hypocritical self-righteousness, and T_D embodies that to it's fullest extent. Did meme'ing work as an effective marketing tool? Maybe, maybe not. Hard to say, really, in something as complicated as a presidential election. I'm sure the meme war seemed effective *to the people waging it*, but how many minds did it actually change? Did it actually sway people's opinions, or was it all a self-satisfying circlejerk for Trump's base? I've seen plenty of political memes on both sides of the spectrum, and I've rarely ever had a reaction other than to roll my eyes and say "*this* shit again?" Jokes and insults make the side that tells them feel good, but they just alienate the people who aren't already on that side.
1 u/Renzolol 12 May 2017 12:11
"Why *are* they?" Is the question, not "why *would* they?" You're in the thread showing that they are doing it.
1 u/Br0metheus 12 May 2017 16:11
I was phrasing it as a rhetorical question. Of course they're doing it, everybody's doing it, and that's why shit is so fucked right now.
1 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 16:08
Theyre not doing it for a candidate who already lost. Theyre doing it *against* a candidate who already won.
1 u/Juicy_Brucesky 12 May 2017 20:55
ask the shareblue manual that got leaked weeks after Trump won. Their goal is to take back the county in the 2018 mid-terms, are you really this blind or just a troll??
1 u/Br0metheus 12 May 2017 21:05
It was a rhetorical question.
1 u/markevens 12 May 2017 06:59
Why do posts on T_D have 5 thousand upvotes and 12 comments?
2 u/Rich77u * 12 May 2017 07:10
I haven't dug through the data lately but from I've seen is a consistently closer subscribed/active ratio than compared to any Bernie or Hillary or Anti-Trump sub. Trump threads back in the day got a ton of comments too. I honestly haven't seen any threads like you're talking about, if you find some let me know maybe I'll change my mind.
1 u/[deleted] 12 May 2017 07:27
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2 u/markevens 12 May 2017 07:28
Within the last week. It is obvious that bots are used for upvotes. [5,756 points \(92% upvoted\), 16 comments](https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/69la7r/spicy_new_ben_garrison_the_welcome_mat_macron/) [5,138 points \(91% upvoted\), 29 comments](https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6a8jmr/comey_is_out/) [5,955 points \(91% upvoted\), 29 comments](https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/69nypj/breitbart_newshouse_to_probe_whether_obama/)
6 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 07:34
I'll be real, that's kind of sketchy. And I honestly haven't seen that stuff before. But until somebody gives me proof the other side isn't doing that (which they won't because you can't prove that, and r/politics is heavily biased anyway) it's just too hard to say Trump has an upper hand. To be clear, I'm definitely not saying there isn't bot involvement. But during the election, man we had energy there that you couldn't find anywhere else. There's a reason the donald got banned from the front page. I simply can't chalk that up to bots. Also, it's worth mentioning that pro-Hillary sources have egregious examples of similar posts.
2 u/markevens 12 May 2017 07:39
So if I understand you correctly, you are saying you acknowledge there is some sketchy vote:comment stuff going on in T_D, but you won't acknowledge that there is bot involvement because maybe the "other side" is using bots? And I completely agree with you that there was a reason the donald got banned from the front page. *That* isn't just chalked up to bots, but other reasons.
2 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 07:41
Well as far as tD getting banned from the front page I meant it's more because it's human user base was simply just hyper-active. I guess to clarify my point I mean that honestly I think everyone is using bots. And until I see a clear, large-scale pattern of "bots" favoring one side it's ultimately a net-zero. Logically speaking, if both sides spend $5mm on bots, it essentially evens out no?
1 u/markevens 12 May 2017 07:59
I initially replied you you when you said this > Why would conservatives pay for bots to support a candidate they don't like who already won? Sometimes the easy answers are the right ones. And now you are saying this > I guess to clarify my point I mean that honestly I think everyone is using bots. So I guess I've made my point. Oh, and I'd agree with you on the banning of TD from the front page. It was the abuse of the sticky post mechanism to push a single sub's ideology onto /r/all that got them banned.
1 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 08:01
To clarify again, everyone is using bots. But why would people pay for bots to support Trump when he already won lol. That's just straight pissing money.
1 u/markevens * 12 May 2017 08:03
Reddit voting bots aren't that difficult to code (or buy for that matter). It isn't so much a pissing of money than a pissing match of people willing to do it "for the cause" on either side of the aisle. And I totally agree that there are bots being used by all sides here.
1 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 08:05
I guess at the end of the day the take away is that it equalizes out. If both sides are pushing the bots to the max it ultimately balances out no?
1 u/markevens 12 May 2017 08:07
I think it is bullshit no matter what side uses it.
3 u/crackinthedam 12 May 2017 07:51
You've cherrypicked three such posts in a week? Look at the entire front page of T_D at any time. Right now the lowest # of comments is 32 and the highest is 790, with the average being maybe 100. Looks organic to me. Now look at the upvotes on the T_D front page. Every post has over 1500 upvotes, most have several thousand, and a few have over 10K. That's what organic activity looks like. Then look at the numbers on r\esist, r\MarchAgainstTrump, or any of the other dozens of anti-Trump shill reddits. There will be dozens of posts with <100 upvotes and one with 20K+ that's on the front page. That's what a few shills in control of a giant upvote botnet looks like.
1 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 16:07
Thats three posts, you idiot. And thats US upvoting.
8 u/augher 12 May 2017 07:40
Honestly is there any reason to comment and have a discussion on a shitpost? People look at the post laugh upvote and move on.
1 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 16:06
Thats us. We upvote literally everything there because of the downvote bots brigading us every hour of every day. So we have to upvote everything in there as we read it. "Sort by Controversial" in TD is completely useless.
8 u/JordanUhlVerified 12 May 2017 03:51
no way to tell who started first. as a trump supporter im sick of seeing all the political stuff tbh. bring back cat reposts.
45 u/gravyleg77 12 May 2017 03:56
Are we Bots or Russians I'm confused what am I today?
33 u/NCDJTSPPRTR 12 May 2017 04:04
We're Russian bots, comrade. Always have been, always will be.
15 u/liftislyfe 12 May 2017 04:11
Both. botrussianfluid beep boop. P90 rush B
7 u/augher 12 May 2017 07:40
Cyka blyat
30 u/freelance_fox 12 May 2017 04:03
I suppose pointing out the irony of you making such claims with no proof would be lost on you, considering we are in a thread that is deeply well-supported with facts. Go ahead and do an analysis of the T_D "bots" yourself if you're so sure it's true.
10 u/bottomlines 12 May 2017 04:13
We have wall bot, brick bot etc. But there is plenty of real conversation here and the OP usually posts in the thread they made. I am inclined to believe that the overwhelming majority of posts here are simply by keen Trump supporters.
6 u/pissyturdfucker_420 12 May 2017 04:36
lol the downvotes, guess this is another subreddit for retarded trump fans
9 u/Undercover_Mop 12 May 2017 05:36
It's really not. There's actually true enthusiasm over there and people want to post.
6 u/Rinbes 12 May 2017 05:55
>b-but both sides Nope. This is yet another false narrative.
18 u/JohnCoffee23 12 May 2017 06:02
> T_D is essentially all bots too *citation needed*
21 u/NotAllMenAreLikeThat 12 May 2017 06:17
> T_D is essentially all bots too You guys still pushing that propaganda? I guess Trumps rallies and speeches were filled by bots too.
10 u/BloedeKuh 12 May 2017 07:44
You _actually_ must have a mental disorder. You poor thing. If you spent more than 10 minutes reading comments in T_D you might realize it really is just a bunch of like-minded people getting together to shitpost and have a good time.
13 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 03:06
Yeah, that's why a special election for a congressional seat in Georgia got 8 million in donations, because there's no support.
1 u/[deleted] 12 May 2017 03:14
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7 u/THExLASTxDON 12 May 2017 03:20
They got the support of billionaires and rich celebrities (well that and soccer moms and spoiled kids that go to $60,000 per year schools). Not really surprising that they could raise money.
2 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 03:31
200,000 people donated, as of the beginning of April. http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2017/04/05/jon-ossoff-nets-record-fundraising-haul-in-6th-district-race/
9 u/trash-80 12 May 2017 07:16
oh yeah, and how many of those donations were organic and came from actual people who live in the state of Georgia where the election was held??? The answer is 5%. Let me say that again, **only 5 % !!!** So Ossoff essentially got every cent of his donation money from all over the country, and only got like 8,000 people to donate who are actually real voters and supporters. And the state that sent the most was California. That's a joke. ##The democrats got their hollywood celebrity puppets to drum up support from the ENTIRE COUNTRY and the best they could do was roughly 180,000 donators ##from a pool of 350 million possible people?????? #Wow thats sad, and it totally refutes your false narrative.
0 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 13:45
Did you need to copy and paste this response to me twice...?
3 u/thelionwillrise 12 May 2017 14:29
Thats your response? Nothing about the substance of the post? Okay.
1 u/[deleted] 12 May 2017 14:46
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0 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 14:56
I did reply to his *other* comment that literally said the same thing
3 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 16:04
I mean you [literally did the same thing.](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditCensors/comments/6alcv3/evidence_of_marchagainsttrump_moderator_using_5/dhga918/) So yes, he did need to.
0 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 17:10
To two different users. Not to the same guy.
1 u/trash-80 13 May 2017 05:58
No, you were spam posting it, so I responded in kind. You also deleted your other spam posts to try and cover it up. Typical crooked liberal.
1 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 13 May 2017 11:57
No I wasn't? I posted to two different users because it was relevant to what they were saying. I didn't spam anything or delete anything. Way to make shit up. Typical lying conservative.
1 u/trash-80 15 May 2017 05:42
> No I wasn't? Freudian slip much?????? You basically admit that you are wrong and a liar. Haha ha like a typical liberal you aren't good at anything, not even lying. *Correction: liberals are very good at stealing peoples money and being racist
1 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy * 15 May 2017 12:02
Jesus are you still here? What a lunatic. Reading a purposefully placed question mark as a Freudian slip? It was more of an invitation to prove what you were saying. But you can't do that, because you're a liar and a fucking moron. I'll see you in 36-48 hours when you can think of something you think is clever to say. Something like this, perhaps: >HAHAHA I can't attack the librul with any facts or substance so I'll seize upon that question mark! Checkmate, librul!!!!!!!!!! And, I mean this with all sincerity, please, go fuck yourself.
1 u/trash-80 13 May 2017 05:59
Yes I did because you were spam posting that same statistic everywhere
22 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 03:25
Wealthy individuals doesn't equal a collective mass. Hillary learned that lesson last year.
7 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 03:31
200,000 people donated, as of the beginning of April. http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2017/04/05/jon-ossoff-nets-record-fundraising-haul-in-6th-district-race/
16 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 03:36
Really doesn't surprised me much after seeing all the "match mes" come out of the woodwork for Bernie. Again, money doesn't equal action lol
9 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 03:38
lol I guess you have an answer for everything lol maybe we'll see your answers lol after a Democratic wave in 2018 lol
16 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 03:43
So maybe you're suggesting this is the end for Trump? Just like it was after his mexican comments, and Megyn Kelly, and the wall, etc etc.
4 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 03:45
Where did I mention Trump?
7 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 03:55
When you mentioned Democrats, you know the other party running for Senate.
0 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 11:03
I didn't mention Trump at all. You're trying to put words into my mouth about him being "done." What I'm talking about is the midterm elections, you know, the ones where trump isn't running?
11 u/totallynotliamneeson 12 May 2017 03:56
Of the special investigation going on into his connections with Russia? The shady firings left and right? Take your pick as Trump falls apart as we speak. Oh wait, I already know your stock answers: A. Hur dur Shillary is worse than Hitler blah blah blah. I voted for the billionaire candidate because he had my interests at heart. B. Just mad that we won* C. This is why Trump won. When you call parts of America idiots, racist and sexist, they get sick of it. That's why we voted for the racist, sexist, idiot, to prove a point that we aren't!!1!1! D. Something something cuck, something something islamists something something EIGHT MORE YEARS. Take your pick.
9 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 04:00
Goddamn liberals. Nah I'm just kidding lol but yo Trump isn't being investigated and why would you fire somebody who is investigating you if you're guilty? That is the dumbest thing ever. Y'all have been saying he's done for like 10 months now yet here we are.
0 u/totallynotliamneeson 12 May 2017 04:07
I agree that it has been forever since we have thought Trump was done, and he has done well in spite of that. And if I came across rude I apologize, just that 9/10 I get a response telling me that someone's removing white culture or that Hillary is the devil. She may have been a poor candidate, but at some point it is beating a dead horse. But I mean this Russia stuff is pretty suspicious, even if Trump isn't actively involved. Just the number of ties back to Russia, and ties that seem to have been at least attempted to be hidden, makes me suspicious. And for me this isn't a party thing, I just am not comfortable with the thought that Russia could have interfered with our election. Democrat or Republican, we all should at least take steps to ensure that we are not being played, right?
2 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 04:16
I mean I like to think I can learn things from passively-aggresively pissing people off, usually I just get told off and banned. No I mean it's definitely suspect but when you look into it it's a really far stretch to think Russia fixed the election considering how many avenues you have to go through and Hillary didn't even get elected and the Democrats fixed their primaries (and that we DO know). Nobody is comfortable with Russia interfering with anything domestic but the fact is like what 17 agencies investigated the Russia connection and found no evidence of collusion?
0 u/totallynotliamneeson 12 May 2017 15:48
But what about the recent developments over the past few months? Comey and Flynn, to name a couple. I mean when there is a guy on staff who clearly violated laws, and it is covered up, that's weird. And then the president fires the acting FBI chief who is also investigating him. Why fire Comey now?
1 u/Rich77u 13 May 2017 19:52
What laws has he violated. And where did you see a cover up? He fired Comey because he was being a giant douche for far too long now. I'm surprised he made it out of January.
3 u/the_trroll_tole * 12 May 2017 06:13
when did the whole russia thing start? when the DNC got phished. the password was Obama08. they have been running with that narrative ever since. sorry to bring it back to the dead horse but it moved again recently. hillary had an interview recently. in which she blamed her loss on "RUSSIAN WIKILEAKS"...wikileaks, who have had leaks on putin. he is not the type to let that shit slide either. point is you think its suspicious but its a hammer looking for a nail. he was also investigated twice prior to the election. nothing was found.
2 u/Juicy_Brucesky 12 May 2017 20:56
seriously, Trump knows and tweets about the media being out to get him every day. He knows one misstep could ruin him, he wouldn't do something like fire Comey if it actually meant he was guilty
9 u/trash-80 12 May 2017 07:13
#OH YES, YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!! #THIS IS DEFINITELY THE END FOR DRUMPF! #I'M SURE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE COLBERT TOLD ME SO
3 u/kfms6741 12 May 2017 14:05
TV PERSON PLEASE TELL ME WHAT TO THINK
-1 u/totallynotliamneeson 12 May 2017 15:45
TRUMP IS WINNING STILL, YOU TIRED OF ALL THIS WINNING YET? YOU KNOW HOW I KNOW? SEAN SPICER YELLED IT AT ME THEN TRUMP TWEETED IT. WHY WOULD THEY LIE?!?! Jesus not all of us are like you, we don't all blindly follow someone who tells you to.
0 u/Jeffy29 12 May 2017 18:45
You cuckholsters are still mad at him lol.
1 u/trash-80 13 May 2017 05:53
oh dude, yes seriously, I had to ragequit watching television that's how angry I was!! Stephen Cold-turdt made me so incensed that now I can't even leave my house because l'm incapable of interacting with the public due to my intense anger issues. I promised myself that I would never watch television again but I was so tempted that l tried a workaround and looked up some highlight video clips of Cold-turdt on my phone. Needless to say, that just made me lose it harder than ever. I broke my phone into a million pieces with a ball peen hammer. This is proving to be quite perilous because a food supply will eventually run out and now I can't order takeout food! There is a very large spare fridge in the garage that I keep my Costco bulk frozen food items in, like neapolitan ice cream, mini vienna franks, hot pockets and such, and that will sustain a person for awhile, but alas this only a stop gap measure that won't work in the long term. My mother had stepped in to rescue me to a degree by bringing over care packages and my clean laundry. However that all ended when she told me that she didn't think that my hatred for Cold-turdt was a justifiable reason to behave the way I have. I SNAPPED! I'm talking I have the power of greyskull and rhythm is a dancer level of SNAP! It's getting kind of hectic when Cold-turdt can turn even your own mother goes against you. What else do you have left after that??? So you know what I did?? I snatched the heavily tin-foil covered plate of chicken tenders she had made for me right out of her hand and put it into the microwave! And I proceeded to set the timer to 77 minutes and 77 seconds, pushed the start button, AND I TURNED MY BACK AND SLOW WALKED AWAY. My house burned down as result and I was killed by smoke inhalation. A brilliant scientist lived next door to me, discovered what had happened, and he took advantage of the opportunity of a free untraceable corpse. He re-animated me by shooting me up with 77cc's of a special super male vitality formula. Now I'm a kind of Frankenstein monster/ Solomon Grundy person with insanely severe anxiety issues who can get triggered faster than any known snowflake alive. I have won several highly prestigious quick draw triggering competitions like the San Francisco International Celebrity Safe Space Tournament at Yale University To Benefit Hollywood Refugees In Canada Invitational. As we speak I am in the process of being officially recognized by Guinness World Records.I also have super powered shit posting and trolling abilities now, but the drawback is that my whole body is a cerulean green color and the only sound my mouth can make is #REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
2 u/yavnik 12 May 2017 18:36
Lol get the fuck out you shill. You're not even fucking trying.
0 u/totallynotliamneeson 12 May 2017 18:57
When do I get paid then? Do shill checks come by mail or are they electronically deposited?
7 u/trash-80 12 May 2017 07:12
#OH YES, THIS IS DEFINITELY THE END FOR DRUMPF! #I'M SURE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE COLBERT TOLD ME SO
6 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 07:31
"REMEMBER AUDIENCE, THIS IS BAD. WE DON'T LIKE TRUMP. HE'S A BAD MAN, WITH BAD IDEAS, AND WE DON'T LIKE HIM. RIGHT, AUDIENCE?"
1 u/Jeffy29 12 May 2017 18:44
No, I never underestimated idiocy of american people, just look at this thread.
3 u/elchupanibre5 12 May 2017 04:01
Correlation doesn't equal causation. Although 200k donations is an impressive number for a run off, there are too many variables to instantly equate this to a "democratic wave in 2018" just being intellectually honest.
1 u/joeltech 12 May 2017 14:59
Bloviate much? I love me some Trump, but god damn did you spout off a bunch of nonsense with no meaning.
5 u/bottomlines 12 May 2017 04:11
Lol, god no. There is nothing worth supporting. The Dems are a mess right now, sidelined and marginalized into simply being an annoying protest party.
4 u/DannyDemotta 12 May 2017 05:34
You were supposed to have a wave in 2016, kiddo. Did you forget already? Do you not remember your favorite FAKE NEWS outlets like HuffPo spreading bogus garbage about how Trump "could cost Republicans the House and Senate", landslide this and that, and so on? They tried their DAMNDEST to get any and every Republican to abandon ship and focus on their own races. And how'd that work out? You lost fucking **everything** at every level. Even if Trump hadnt BTFO Hillary, the GOP would still have the House and Senate. That's really, really embarassing for you. But we're all supposed to believe that even though your calculus was completely buttfucked then, it's correct now? Heh!
7 u/augher 12 May 2017 07:44
Waves coming any day now boys, Bernie can still win, I just donated my student loans. Anyone to match me?
1 u/teslaxoxo 14 May 2017 16:03
> hey tried their DAMNDEST to get any and every Republican to abandon ship and focus on their own races. And how'd that work out? You lost fucking everything at every level. Even if Trump hadnt BTFO Hillary, the GOP would still have the House and Senate. That's really, really embarassing for you. I double down..i donated my child future student loans as well..beat me!
0 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 11:06
God damn, are you this pedantic in real life, or only on the Internet? And 2016 was never supposed to be a "wave." The republicans were always polling to keep the House and Senate. And the "calculus" as you call it, was actually pretty accurate when it said Hillary would win by a couple of percentage points, it just didn't factor in 80,000 voters in three states that flipped the EC.
3 u/joeltech 12 May 2017 14:58
DON'T FORGET THAT COUNTY CLERK ELECTION THAT COULD SIGNAL THE END FOR DRUMPF.
0 u/Jeffy29 12 May 2017 18:45
If they win it's surely work of the (((deep state)))!!!! Whatever fuck that means.
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6 u/trash-80 12 May 2017 07:16
oh yeah, and how many of those donations were organic and came from actual people who live in the state of Georgia where the election was held??? The answer is 5%. Let me say that again, **only 5 % !!!** So Ossoff essentially got every cent of his donation money from all over the country, and only got 10,000 people to donate who are actually real voters and supporters. And the state that sent the most was California. That's a joke. ##The democrats got their hollywood celebrity puppets to drum up support from the ENTIRE COUNTRY and the best they could do was roughly 180,000 donators ##from a pool of 350 million possible people?????? #Wow thats sad, and it totally refutes your false narrative.
1 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 11:32
The problem is that you're associating this with a regular House race, which it's not. Historically, no one gives a flying fuck about special elections, and voter turnout is minuscule. Most of the American population, Democrats and Republicans, don't even know it's happening. When the vote is nationwide in 2018, you will see a huge turnout. And we already have the results of the first round of this election to prove you completely wrong. Osoff already got 92,000 votes out of the 192k that voted. So your 10,000 number of people who donated in-state is meaningless. The votes will be there, even if Osoff doesn't win, to get him this close in such a red district shows where Democrats are.
1 u/trash-80 13 May 2017 06:04
oh my god WHAT?????JackieChanFace.JPEG My 10,000 number is a direct response to your baloney number argument!!!!!!!! There is no logic whatsoever in your above response. You are either delusional or a troll. 2018 is going to be such an epic BTFO'ing of the libtards that it will make history
1 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 13 May 2017 12:04
Did it seriously take you all day to come up with such a stupid response laden with The_Donald buzzwords? Your 10,000 number is meaningless. 90,000 people voted for Osoff, who raised 8 million dollars for a *special election* that people don't usually give a fuck about. There's a special race in fucking Montana where the polls have narrowed to a single digit lead for the republican, where your orange God emperor carried the state by 20 points. They even had to send Pence and one of the little trump trolls to campaign because it's being fucked up so bad. People all over cant stand what Trump is doing (or not doing), so you're going to see a lot of blue in 2018, gerrymandering or not.
1 u/trash-80 15 May 2017 05:37
AAAAND #[THATS WHERE YOU'RE WRONG, KIDDO](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0228/8535/products/A08B417D-3838-4F6F-BD06-D242AFA025A7-2_1024x1024.jpeg?v=1456893567)
4 u/crackinthedam 12 May 2017 07:53
**95% of donations to the Ossoff campaign were from out of state.**
8 u/MisterMeatloaf 12 May 2017 09:53
This. They did this to try and create a big anti-Trump movement (like everything they do, it didn't work)
5 u/Sour_Badger 12 May 2017 10:26
Something like 96% of that from OUTSIDE the district. it wasn't organic or local, it was the first decent chance to say HAH suck it Trump, buttttt the left isn't real great at results.
2 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 15:59
You understand that has no relevance on a national level to the fact that liberal ideology is dying, right? You basically just made the argument "Hey. liberals exist". Like...ok. Good job, fam.
1 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 17:17
Most of those donations came from national donors. And I won't argue with your point that the liberal ideology is dying, because you made no point, you provided no evidence to back up your thesis. You just spouted your opinion on something, which I'm not going to argue with. If I did, it would be tantamount to saying "nuh uh!" and what's the point of that? If you want to have a real discussion and provide some evidence to back up your claim, then I'm game. For instance, I could point out that Democrats have won a majority of total votes in the past few Senate, House, and Presidential elections, but the way things as divided it has led to less elected officials from that party.
2 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 18:06
> And I won't argue with your point that the liberal ideology is dying So then why did you even bother with any of this? Just go.
0 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 18:40
Excellent, well thought out response, try to shut up anyone who disagrees. Very republican.
2 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 19:02
>Very republican. What a profoundly stupid fucking thing to say.
1 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 19:08
Says the person who claims an ideology that attracted the majority of voters in 2016 is somehow dying
2 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 19:11
Yep. Have a good day.
0 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 19:17
Just a quick question, on a day where this president is threatening to stop having press briefings, and where his press secretary is rightfully being criticized for hiding "amongst" the bushes to avoid the press, how can you claim that trying to stifle dissent is somehow *not* a republican attribute?
2 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 19:20
hahahaha. Jesus you're ridiculous. You gotta go, man. Just go. I'm not interested in this, in the least, with you.
0 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 19:41
So....you can't back up that claim? Got it.
2 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 19:50
k great. Bye
1 u/rex_dart_eskimo_spy 12 May 2017 20:52
Byeeeeeee have fun in /r/The_SafeSpace. I'm sure there, they don't question when you call liberalism a dying ideology! They just nod and say "da, comrade!"
2 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 20:59
k great. Bye
3 u/fuckyourcatsnigga 12 May 2017 09:20
Ah yes. The side with 3 million more votes and the side that won 48/50 states among millenials...and won literally every demographic except white men(essential tie among white women) is the dying ideology...
7 u/thelionwillrise 12 May 2017 14:41
Yes, because that ideology is compacted in a few small areas. Democrats are not eager to test their ideology in a hostile environment - thats why they started their safespaces. (And also why straying from the path is punished - i think this one is obvious, but if you want examples give me a poke.) I dont see how race has anything to do with it, but thats also just a Democrat thing i guess; drag race into everything. They are the party of the KKK after all, old habits die hard. We are not just Americans, noooo, we are Latino, black, white, native... And Trump is the racist, obviously. Fucking sexist white male that he is. The Democrats lost power in every facet of government, they will lose more in the future. Screenshot this comment and think about it when it happens. If youre gonna REEEE some more, get some cardboard and write some angry stuff. Theres bound to be a disgusting, dildo-studded, pussyhatted, grotesque and vulgar riot... I mean protest, going on somehwere. Yet they call us deplorable, hilarious. Here is some room so you can have the last word, some people love having the last word:
5 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 14:45
Were literally in a thread about one side overwhelmingly faking identities and votes, and you immediately jump to "DURR the side with 3 million more votes".... Fucking seriously?
3 u/KurtSTi 12 May 2017 16:32
What's hilarious is that the left is so opposed to voter ID and investigation into voter fraud. If they're really so sure there's no voter fraud, then they'd let Trump investigate since they know he'd be wrong and just let him embarrass himself. The pushback from the media on it is quite telling.
4 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 18:05
Personally, I don't believe she got 3 million more votes, but it doesnt matter because popular vote is a talking point for losers. As far as him talking about > and the side that won 48/50 states among millenials.. and >won literally every demographic except white men I dont know what the fuck he's talking about and why any of that shit matters.
3 u/KurtSTi 12 May 2017 16:25
Almost all big cities in the US lean to the left. It's no surprise Hillary won the pop vote, but that's exactly why we have the electoral college. And don't give me that 'unfair' bullshit. The democrats basically start each election with 99 guaranteed electoral votes from four states. (Cali, NY, Wash, Ore) The republicans literally have to win the swing states to even have a chance to win.
87 u/TotesMessenger * 11 May 2017 19:49
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61 u/Redhighlighter 11 May 2017 20:53
Meta AF
14 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 03:24
I was hoping one of these would be from the subs in question
2 u/EvilSovereign 12 May 2017 14:05
One of them is.
2 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 14:25
That list wasn't so big when I checked it lol
1 u/cherrybombstation 12 May 2017 16:59
> [/r/marchagainsttrump] In light of this evidence: A petition to rename this sub to r/LeftistSubSimulator
56 u/Oh_hamburgers_ 12 May 2017 00:10
Damn, great job on this investigation. Pretty damn air tight.
34 u/smack1114 12 May 2017 02:02
I think I found Comey's replacement.
10 u/JordanUhlVerified 12 May 2017 03:52
u mean u found comey's retirement hobby.
33 u/Roksha 11 May 2017 22:24
There are people trying to pit Americans against each other on both sides. Analyze almost any political/news sub and this shit is happening. Americans need to stop going for each others throats over the mass amount of bullshit being posted on both the left and right leaning subs. They are trying to divide us.
17 u/nakedtime313 12 May 2017 04:04
The left (which includes establishment Republicans) have been trying to start a race war for the last 30 years. This shit has to stop. Trying to insinuate that the US is somehow a majority racist country is absurd. Its one of the least racist countries in the US and less that 1% of people in the US could truly be labeled "oppressed". People need to calm down. Shit is just fine in the US. Everyone has american privilege which is the best privilege of all.
12 u/crackinthedam 12 May 2017 07:54
No, the Left has been trying to start the race war by constantly attacking white people and faking hate crimes in their name. Over 60 verified fake just during this election cycle. http://fakehatecrimes.org Number verified real during this time: <5
7 u/Vaginalpuppetry 12 May 2017 13:12
I bet there are more hate crimes that are black on white than the reverse. I automatically assume that every one of them that the media starts talking about is fake anymore.
2 u/crackinthedam 12 May 2017 13:43
It's a safe bet, especially on a college campus. Zero of those "white Trump supporter hate crimes" have turned out to be real. *Every single one has been faked.* Meanwhile, http://attacksontrumpsupporters.com
2 u/thelionwillrise 12 May 2017 14:50
Yep, black on white crime is more common than the opposite as well. But the world is messed up at the moment. Teaching people about Islam is considered islamophobia. Telling people that were all Americans is racist because if youre not focussing on skincolour youre not acknowledging their oppression... Bizarro world.
7 u/Kasarii 12 May 2017 06:11
They want the polarization to continue so they can come in a offer a new way out of the chaos that seems to be getting worse. When morale is low people will take up that offer not understanding that they are just being lied to and will be giving up their freedom in return for security and stability. Wish more people understood that once you give up your freedom you can't get it back without massive bloodshed.
1 u/Roksha 12 May 2017 12:54
Who's they?
1 u/Roksha 12 May 2017 12:58
I assume you mean the last administration. Which doesn't explain why bipartisan agencies all seem to know it was another country doing this. What freedoms did you lose during the obama admin?
1 u/Kasarii 12 May 2017 13:59
Elite globalists who are pushing for a new world order where they are in absolute control. They want a system where they are so powerful that they are practically hidden from us lower citizens and we are unable to fight back.
1 u/Roksha 12 May 2017 14:07
Its not possible that a foreign entity is doing this? Its more likely to you that all of the richest people and their subordinates are in on a massive conspiracy to ruin the world to enslave all of mankind?
1 u/Kasarii * 12 May 2017 14:44
Nope, Russia can barely handle itself. The only thing they want is to prevent terrorist from attacking them, stopping the Qatar-Europe Pipeline going through Syria and avoiding WWIII, their economy sucks and they can't afford to get into any conflicts with anyone. It's also not a conspiracy, they are doing it right in front of you. The most well known one is George Soros who is practically bragging that he's trying to destabilize the U.S dollar. The same guy who bragged about being the cause of the destabilization in the Ukraine. There's a guy called George Webb who is doing investigative journalist work researching the cause of countries destabilization like Libya, Syria, Haiti and now what's going on in the U.S. He's a Bernie supporter that's been making daily videos on youtube since last year. I'm going to link you a cliff notes post that some person on reddit that has kindly made which has links for all the videos with each summary part. I recommend starting at part 1 if you truly would like to know more. http://archive.is/gx6yQ Even if you are concern trolling me here, I'm still going to post this so other people might check it out. edit: Going to link [another site](https://idraintheswamp.com/) which records more facts that correlate with the George Webb series for another source.
1 u/Roksha 12 May 2017 17:07
What your saying is valid and I do believe the billionaire class is trying to influence the world to support their agenda. What that is I have no idea (most likely to profit). As to all the misinformation on social media I'm going to agree with our intel agencies. It seems as though a foreign entity (most likely Russia) is trying to cause Americans to be divided. A weaker divided America will make it much easier for Russia to get their sanctions lifted especially since they may have put a pro Russia president in the WH. Why do you think there are so many connections to Russia in this admin? What would our bi-partisan intel agencies gain by lying about that? If the intel agencies lied about that and the truth came out the people would completely lose faith in the justice system on both sides of the aisle.
1 u/drumrocker2 12 May 2017 10:58
The puppet masters divided us in 2008. Think about it, I don't remember racial tensions even existing before then.
1 u/Roksha 12 May 2017 12:42
Or this could all be explained by an other country is manipulating the perceptions of Americans so we are divided. It also explains why all our Intel angencys think that. Lol do you guys really think the left has control over over all the Intel angencys?
2 u/Juicy_Brucesky 12 May 2017 20:58
Are you saying we should ignore this since everyone is doing it? I'd rather take action against both sides preventing reasonable discussion
1 u/Roksha 12 May 2017 21:17
I'm 100% with you. We should pay very close attention to this, learn from it, and apply it elsewhere. We should oust the people doing this. Were going to need a lot of people counter acting the assholes promoting these types of things.
25 u/utu_ 12 May 2017 04:58
is there anyone who actually thought all those anti trump subs were real? if you do just go post some pro Trump stuff in one of them and watch it get upvotes and take hours for the actual mods to remove.
1 u/qaaqa 12 May 2017 13:45
Ha ha. Thats a greeat idea.
1 u/utu_ 12 May 2017 21:11
it's something i've actually done. when that stupid fucking bidenbro sub sprouted up (which was so obvious they were trying to manufacture meme magic) I posted the video of Biden groping children and it got a bunch of upvotes (I don't remember how many exactly, I want to say 40, but I didn't look after the first hour) and it took the mods 6ish hours to remove the video and ban me. this was around 1pm PST too, not the middle of the night.
1 u/qaaqa 12 May 2017 21:13
Ha ha. Thats fantastic.
1 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 15:32
>is there anyone who actually thought all those anti trump subs were real? Yes. Every useful idiot on the left.
24 u/The_Music 12 May 2017 01:26
Since this is obviously going to be political let me say two things: 1. I'm anti-trump and this is not okay. 2. I'd wager the other political subreddits do this, too.
17 u/thelonelychem 12 May 2017 02:14
I agree with you, I would suspect ALL other political subs do this. Question is, are the upvotes in posts based on users or by bots? This (and stickied posts) were part of the reason T_D got pushed down with the algorithm. Shouldn't these subreddits be punished in a similar way? I also am anti-Trump, but there seems to be a blind faith following in the majority of political subreddits that is very disturbing to me.
17 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 03:26
> Shouldn't these subreddits be punished in a similar way? Yes, but they won't be.
13 u/fumar 12 May 2017 04:59
The reddit admins really show their bias when the exact same kinds of posts T_D did pre algorithm change are now getting to the top page from subs like resist, MAT, etc. It's very obvious censorship that too many people on this site are willing to turn a blind eye to because they hate Trump.
1 u/blackjackjester 12 May 2017 12:30
Reddit admins realize that blanket policies over the whole site like this would pretty much ruin it. There would be a lot of fallout and damage done to default subs.
1 u/sadacal 12 May 2017 03:28
I thought only upvote bots were illegal? Does it matter if a subreddit allows bots to post content? It is still real people voting on which posts reach the front page. Stuff like /r/SubredditSimulator is legal right? So are bots which post comments and stuff like the user_history_bot and TotesMessenger, two bots that made comments on this post.
1 u/Duncanc0188 12 May 2017 06:29
It may classify as spam? Not sure though.
8 u/JordanUhlVerified 12 May 2017 03:55
im super pro trump. still think both sides are botting too much. here and twitter. impossible for real people to talk to each other. gridlock. idk whos responsible for botting on either side, but the result is just gridlock and progress stops. as a trump guy my only issue is there is there is only one t_d and 20 anti trump subs botting. doesnt seem fair. i dont really want to see either at this point. idk if the libs are in the don or people have just gone crazy (or crazy people think its ok to act crazy) but they are stooping lower and lower. constantly fighting to be at a lower level than each other with their insults. i can sort of understand, because it is kind of maddening to argue with bots all day, but things are so extreme they just post to get reactions at this point. its fucked up. go back to work. cant help the needy if we arent working and just sit around manipulating data all day.
3 u/The_Music 12 May 2017 03:58
As with most things it's a mix I'd bet. I appreciate your honesty, most of your side isn't willing to admit to any sort of fault, whether it's yours or just that of your party. Mine either for that matter... My concern with t_d is when they over extend themselves into more serious, curated subreddits like /r/conservative. Memes and hyperbole have a place but not outside their subs, left or right
6 u/JordanUhlVerified 12 May 2017 04:14
i mean im a born republican but my party makes me a bit sick. i see the left as far far worse tho. donald is the wildcard, and i hope it makes both parties reform. unfortunately it seems to have made both parties try to use him to establish themselves as better and stronger without the reform. its all a joke at this point. someone gets banned from the don and the note is 'muslim spotted'. people react and say thats racist. like who gives a fuck. its all fake offense and triggering online. nothing will get better if we dont think critically, look at what has to change, and fix it. nothing will get better if we spam senators phone lines and town meetings and subreddits. drain the swamp is a great idea. the greatest from his campaign imo. but it feels impossible at this point. no one is willing to concede any power or admit any fault. i really feel like i got to get to DC. they need fresh blood. if i cant do that, i will get involved locally. i already audit my county and know the local politicians. its just so much fucking work, but anything is better than staring at bullshit on the internet all day. ya feel? we need to stop yelling and take some responsibility for our own neighborhoods and faults.
1 u/The_Music 12 May 2017 04:32
I get the sentiment. But you have to admit, you guys must feel more represented than us. For a majority of us democrats and liberals, our representatives won't even hold townhalls anymore, citing 'violent liberals'. No constituents ought to feel ignored by their government. It's how uprisings start. A lot of folks say it will never happen, especially from liberals. But if you push someone enough, they'll do what it takes. The one thing democrats had that republicans didn't was that they towed the line between both parties, and were too afraid to outright alienate the right. Trump/GOP has no problem alienating the center-left/far left and I fear for their well-being should good sense not prevail. Alls well that ends well, best of luck to you and yours, mate. Welcome to the new administration, same as the old administration is how the saying goes, I believe.
1 u/JordanUhlVerified * 12 May 2017 04:47
oh yea man. im still on cloud 9. i love the fact that he won and will remember it forever. im glad i get a bit of representation now, and know i might never again. i am prolly the definition of white privileged in most peoples eyes. parents did well made a cpl mil. took a risk started their own account firm. 2 person team, occasionally some help. still i am armenian and my great grandparents lose their land, home, families, and were forced to leave the country during the turkish genocide. other side is the poorest of irish immigrants. im white privlidge, but that shit is not free. that shit was 100 years of saving every penny, something i still do. invest every cent. its just who i am and i cant be faulted for it, i try my best. there already is an uprising man. i can see the kids burning down their campus. burning down pipelines. spamming news and media. i believe it, i can see it. its just not being fought with ar-15s. and no i dont feel bad when town halls are canceled. especially when a bunch of loud mouth idiots gather and go to a meeting in mass and shout shit. that is now how debates are won (well maybe trump won some that way) but not locally. you need a spokesperson, a plan, and a well constructed criticism and solution. i see websites posting telephone numbers to call representatives. thats the worst. if someone actually has enough motivation to do that they can find the number. these websites just encourage botting and people with no clue to clog a line of communication with their own representative. he doesnt want to listen because he has to deal with bullshit all day, just like anyone like me on reddit arguing with mostly bots. its boy who cried wolf. like with flynn. if you are against every single member of trumps team and fight him at every corner, why would he listen to advice saying flynn was corruptable? democrates alienated me along time ago my friend. when i finished my masters and the only option left was a shitty job. my starting salary is not enough to pay for my parents house property tax. its less than their insurance premium for 3 people. how am i suppose to succeed my parents when i am given an education and nothing to do with it. i attended a high school that has ranked #1 public math in science multiple times in the past decade. i know how to think. i literally lost job chances at big 4 firms to immigrants who got booted from the lottery anyways. they were cheaper, and more likely to work 80 hour weeks and not complain. how can they complain when it means their visa is gone. corporate abuse. financial systems do it too. corrupted and 2008 will repeat eventually. hire foreign slaves. manipulate the market. take avg peoples 401ks. market crash when the boomers hit retirement... not good. many like me will not be able to keep their parents housed and cared for. the game is clearly rigged against me. but i am telling you far more people have it worse. but i have good ideas. i can help people , just need a chance. i have no problem alienating most of the left. if anyone quotes anything without doing research on it i can just disregard. if you arent reading the executive orders yourself, you dont deserve to have a voice this loud. people just like to argue against things they dont understand and it is holding us all back. regresslive liberalism. where are the JFK era liberals? remember when liberals were all about the working man? the working man with 1 representative voicing their concern? now they dont work, and all the men go and voice their concerns at the same time into megaphones. dont wonder why i chose to ignore it. its just noise. i am rooting for you man. i really am. im not interested in helping the liberals fix their problems. i want to help the needy and those around me. my town, my neighbors, my friends, my family, my party. thats my circle of control. i hope you can get involved and come up with some good plans to move your party forward. you fix your problems. ill try to fix ours. and well meet in the middle in the future hopefully. do whats best for all, but im not to sympathetic after this election. sorry. its been rough. i really dont care about identity politics. what you want to call climate change. what you want to call terrorism (from islams, white people, nutjobs, christians, BLM, anyone). i just dont care anymore. get good jobs to people. help the poor. rebuild schools and inner cities. fix the prison cycle. stop federal dependency for individuals and corporations. and stop burdening everyone in the 80-250k range with the bill. stop letting people abuse the handouts. the upper middle class doesnt have any more resources to pay for it. i have health insurance but dont even have the time to see a dr. nearly everyone i work with does 60 hour weeks and is in poor health. the people i audit grind 40 hour weeks for pensions in mindless gov jobs. i just dont see how thats helping anyone. red tape creates work for white working slaves. we can do so much better. idk i can go for days. we got lots of issues. at least we can agree on that. i think we can also agree that neither of us are bad people, but is hard to get stuff done when everyone wants to take charge. need structure and opportunity for all. less bullshit and noise.
1 u/The_Music 12 May 2017 05:28
Applause to you, man! From a liberal! Folk like you are trying to keep the aisle 'undivided'. It's really rare when I can say that I wholly agree with the values you've presented, despite your status as a T_D supporter. Though I have to admit, I do not fit into the typical stereotypical "liberal" position. I do hold *some* conservative views. I wish more people could see things as you and I do. Personally, I do not believe taxing those in the (I shift here) 80-100k range unduly is fair, though I must say 200k and above, there is no reason that I can find that would exempt them from more taxable contributions than the poorer. I say this as someone who grew up, and is currently (and fervently trying to escape) the sub 50k earning range. > get good people good jobs I couldn't agree more. I know we have a lot of issues, and I know we will never EVER settle them. But it's times like these we have to take what we can get. If for one moment, we can hold our WWI-esque Christmas Truce, then I am satisfied that the upper echelon have retained their humanity. Climate change, unfortunately, I can not budge on. It's an inevitable, horrific truth that will only worsen in my worldview. Terrorism from ISIS, in my eyes, is a result of our actions from pre-9/11 times and onward. Karma, one might say but I believe military action is the only way to vanquish it; again, here I depart from the typical liberal narrative. Seriously, I wish more were as well-reasoned as you. Unfortunately, I view our president as a buffoon and a traitor, bur your views and those who see things as you do: I see that. I respect those beliefs even if I cannot bring myself to ascribe to them myself.
1 u/Kasarii * 12 May 2017 06:42
Don't take this the wrong way by thinking that I'm trying to say your ideas are wrong but something to consider is maybe you haven't just done enough deep research yourself to fully understand what is truly going on. That you might be just seeing a facade top layer of information put out to dis-inform everyone. I was sucked into this as well and I would consider myself to be more of a moderate person rather than left or right only. I spent enough spare time to look at the facts and not just what someone claimed was true, even when I thought they were legitimate sources at the time. While yes, terrorism groups including ISIS have been spurred by our actions, it's not just a reaction-response only from them. We have had corrupt officials help make these groups bigger as they wanted to use them as tools to achieve their personal agendas. So while these corrupt officials were part of our nation, the rest of us aren't responsible for these crimes. Check out George Webb on YouTube, [this is a good place to start on day 84](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioFGJmrvai0). He's a Bernie supporter who has been doing deep investigative work on recent events that have happened in the middle-east, and other places where a lot of shady things have occurred. If you have time, I suggest you watch this [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDK1aCqqZkQ) about man-made climate change that interviews Dr. Patrick Moore, PHD in Ecology and founder of Greenpeace. They discuss what's real and what isn't and why. The fact is that our nation needs both conservatives and liberals to have a healthy functioning society. The liberals create and the conservatives implement, without each other the society stalls and starts to decay. Ideologies are nothing but a label that describes the type of personality you have. More open minded, artistic but chaotic people are usually Liberal and More close minded, orderly and stable people are usually Conservative. They aren't something to be used as a tribal division where you should divide yourself into groups with other people who have similar ideologues. All it does is create polarization and either makes the two different groups fight, or one becomes the slave of the other. *edit: Free speech is required for both types of people to come together and have a discussion about what is the best way to improve our society. Check out Dr. Jordan Peterson if you want to find out more about the psyche behind what is going on in today's western culture. [Here's an interview by Dave Rubin(liberal) with Dr. Peterson.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJSJcPKA1Ug&t=1s), who's a psychologist and tenured professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. Again, I'm not trying to convince you to change your mind. Just trying to share more information for you to help make a more informed decision about your stances.
2 u/JordanUhlVerified 13 May 2017 05:45
Thanks for the sources. I think you are saying smarts doesn't matter because both sides can be correct. I tend to focus on the worst outliers when I refer to the liberals, tho I know at the end of the day we are still the greatest country and full of the greatest people. Just so frustrating to see his misinformation you are talking about. Makes my blood boil to see people riot over trump. They need to listen for a bit and not be so rash. Honestly I do believe many politicians want our downfall. The only path to global leaders and global power is with our downfall. Once you have all the money and power in America that is the only next place to go. Maybe I'm a nut but I believe high ranking officials on both sides want this downfall to consolidate control. That's why it's so great that a guy who sells hotel rooms and shit won. Fuck em both. Michele could have run in 2024 if Hilary was in for 8 and it would have been 48 years of bush Clinton Obama presidents. That is fucking insane. We need to reset a bit. The politicians don't represent their constituents like they should. None of the biggest names got there by just being good people.
1 u/Kasarii 13 May 2017 06:15
Yeah, I really think term limits needs to happen sooner rather than later. These career politicians stay in power by crook and hook, they get offered so much lobbying money that they can just throw it at their next campaign and silence their opposition. Repeat that a few times and you get a swamp creature. If you would like to find out the real truth of what is hijacking the "liberal side" even though they aren't classical liberals anymore you should watch this, it's only an 18 min. long video but it's well worth your time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTxmKc80wUw Jordan Peterson has spent probably 30 or 40 years studying this and when you hear what he says and explains how the "regressive leftists" function, it really hits you in the gut.
1 u/JordanUhlVerified 13 May 2017 05:37
Thanks man. I know there are plenty of old liberals out there. Non sjw types. The reason I give such a high number is because in the Tristate where I grew up 100 to 200 k is middle class. For example in Florida where I livenow a 200k job is 400k equivenelt in New Jersey. So I can't ever save up down here and move back home. The scales are a bit broken is all I'm saying. My 15 year experience managers pull in the same as my brothers starting salary up there. Trump is just himself man. He's no buffoon. Buffoons don't make it to the White House. Bush was thought of the same way. They are both authentic. I even see Obama as more of a buffoon. Sure he can talk well but his policies are egotistical bullshit. All he did was healthcare and drone strike. Both premiums and body counts are up way to much for me to consider him smart. He's a smiling face and reads off a TelePrompter. I see that as worse than a guy who says what's on his mind. We gave Obama a chance. Maybe not a fair one but we didn't fight. I think trump is a pawn. He knows little about politics and how info is used to destroy, instead of money. Both sides should be using him to get things we all agree need work fixed, instead of arguing over the extreme things we disagree on. I hate how he presidency has become four years to shove your shit through the houses. The GOP has trump by the balls a bit, his only ally even tho he hates half of them. If the dems and media worked with him a bit I bet we would get more accomplished. They are forcing him to a corner and to choose a side. We all are doing the same, and no one wants to be neutral. Thanks for the response and best of luck.
7 u/Terminal-Psychosis * 12 May 2017 06:45
Right, except there is no evidence of this botting from T_D. As OP clearly proves, there is an abundance of evidence of such manipulation from the other side, and a deafening silence from reddit admins. :-(
1 u/JordanUhlVerified 12 May 2017 13:25
yea its obvious reddit doesnt care. idk if i believe there are no TD bots or what. i love TD even tho im not really active there at all anymore. i just dont take anything i see online at face value, including upvoted posts etc.
1 u/Terminal-Psychosis 12 May 2017 15:13
Have you ever seen such clear and concise evidence of T_D doing anything like this shady shit? Nope, because nobody has any. With all the hate they get from every angle. (including admins), if there *were* any actual proof, it would have been presented like OP did here.
2 u/GregariousWolf 12 May 2017 13:20
I'm a little late to this party, but I agree. I have close friends and family that are Republicans and Democrats. They're all good people. All of this online astroturfing poisons the well of political discourse. You're right, it's getting impossible to talk to people online. And it's making things worse in the real real world. All the shit-stirring is making things worse.
5 u/elchupanibre5 12 May 2017 04:06
> I'd wager the other political subreddits do this, too. As a T_D poster, I hope OP could do this same kind of investigation toward T_D and reveal the evidence if bots also truly run rampant in that sub. This way we can come to a fair and fact based conclusion rather than just brush things off as "well the other political subs do this too" I just want some damn integrity and if reddit admins won't do it then its up to the users.
2 u/The_Music 12 May 2017 04:13
Amen. We live in an age of propaganda. Whether it comes from the_donald or /r/socialism or WaPo or Breitbart, we are all in this together, and every side is trying it's hardest to manipulate us all. I just want some objective thought, some impartiality.
1 u/TheRainofcastemere 12 May 2017 16:48
This. BTW \u\photenth was working on something about super long comment chains by a few users of T_D with potential botting.. fingers crossed.
6 u/Mawo123 12 May 2017 04:34
A lot of them are pretty blatant about it. Look at any anti Trump sub besides politics and you will see a pattern. 1 to 2 posts a day getting tens of thousands of up votes and everything else barely cracking 100.
0 u/Duncanc0188 12 May 2017 06:28
Most do. There was just evidence of The Donald doing it too. But I'll be damned if both sides won't use this against the other as if they are innocent.
2 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 15:55
T_D doesn't bot. There are bots in there, but they aren't ours. Theyre downvote bots. T_D gets data scraped all the time and they never find evidence of any significant botting. T_D doesn't even need bots. The numbers there are huge to begin with, but more importantly, why WOULD T_D bot? Trump won. There's no incentive to do it, and nobody who would be interested in financially backing it.
1 u/Duncanc0188 12 May 2017 17:09
>significant botting That right there admits that there's some bots on TD that are TD's
2 u/johnchapel * 12 May 2017 18:03
Yes SIGNIFICANT botting. As in "contextually related to the conversation we are currently having" We have Brick Bot, a bot that gives you a brick to add to Trumps Wall. We have Coat Bot, a bot that gives every patriot a coat. I think theres a "Bill Clinton is a Rapist" bot. And I think theres also bot that reminds us how many miles the trump train has taken. Those are bots, but those are not the bots that we are talking about. Theyre just gags. You're talking about Pro-Trump inflation bots, of which TD doesn't have. There's no evidence of it, and you're more than welcome to scrape the sub (as several people do every day) for the data and show evidence, but you won't find any because nobody has. The only shady bots in TD belong to the /r/marchagainsttrump guys and Shareblue and theyre used to downvote every thread and every comment. And those are not our bots.
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1 u/Duncanc0188 12 May 2017 18:15
TIL.
2 u/Heinricher 12 May 2017 11:27
It's very sad that you have to state your political position first before commenting because you just know what will happen.
2 u/Ice_Cream_Hero 12 May 2017 14:44
What sucks is that while OP managed to track down the fraudulent nature of r/MarchAgainstTrump it was easier because it opened as a dead sub and continues as a dead sub. When such a significant percentage of the activity is centered around the same group of accounts it's much easier to put the pieces together. There is almost certainly the same kind of fuckery happening in subs like r/politics but it's far more difficult to put it together because any shilling/botting/rulebreaking can hide among each other. While I haven't found any real lead on it, and I'm trying, I'm fairly certain there's some shilling/botting for The Independent going on in there (and maybe other subs too). The most trashy clickbait,, sensationalized headline, no-content articles get upvoted to 20k/30k/40k or more very quickly and almost always gets gilded (payment for posting perhaps?). It's almost *always* The Independent when that happens. That can't be a coincidence. The mods are really passive about that stuff though. I'm 100% convinced they know that sub is going to hell and is compromised content wise and is just trying to clean up the comments section. Last year I rooted out several accounts to the mods in r/politics that were very clearly sold accounts or caved into shilling. It was painfully obvious when you go from casually posting in science based subreddits ovr 3 years to exclusively posting several Trump hit pieces daily in r/politics from only 1 or 2 sites. Now the shilling is becoming more sophisticated and using a network of accounts to avoid that. They still have to make up some phony account activity to look legit on the surface but even some minor investigations can root them out. Another account I rooted out in r/politics last summer has a single comment that got like 3-4 karma. Very first post was in a reposted r/AskReddit thread and it was the top comment of the originally posted thread. Almost certainly coordinated with whoever posted the thread initially.
15 u/MeeMeeMeeMeeMeeMee * 12 May 2017 05:36
http://archive.is/GZBCq#selection-3580.0-3580.3 <-Anti-trump mod of marchagainsttrump admitting to organizing voting brigades contrary to reddit rules. [https://reddit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/205192985] That guy demodded themselves as he promised in the post (when it reached 100k upvotes) but is most likely back under a different name. https://archive.is/KjbGQ There was also this https://np.reddit.com/r/TheseFuckingAccounts/comments/68diqc/something_fucky_in_rmarchagainsttrump_part_1_out/ ----- more archived links r/ElyseNicoleDufour -- [moderators](https://archive.is/TODqN) [r/ClaraHurtado](https://archive.is/OXc6c) -- [moderators](https://archive.is/iOKel) r/KeziahRodell -- [moderators](https://archive.is/wxdmp) [r/SarahMorgan](https://archive.is/4MNsz) -- [moderators](https://archive.is/Kw1np) [r/TrulyFord](https://archive.is/F1SNb) -- [moderators](https://archive.is/z4DNn) [r/DanniiBarnes](https://archive.is/Q2bzJ) -- [moderators](https://archive.is/DtAqI) [r/LiaWhite](https://archive.is/VMwh7) -- [moderators](https://archive.is/ZvXsU)
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6 u/Lightthrower1 12 May 2017 08:20
Go after the advertisers, Reddit board, all their revenue sources.
11 u/PotatoVarnishOrigin 12 May 2017 01:34
wow, that's got to be illegal - it'd be something to pass on to advertisers...
7 u/Rich77u 12 May 2017 03:26
A G E N D A G E N D A
13 u/LinLeyLin 12 May 2017 03:27
A G E N D A / G / G / E / E A G E N D A N G D G D E A G E N D A N / N / D / D / A G E N D A
3 u/PotatoVarnishOrigin 12 May 2017 03:38
wow, I like that one,!!
11 u/TravelingT 12 May 2017 05:46
They just change their algorithm to censor any conservative views
9 u/JohnCoffee23 12 May 2017 05:42
Reddit admins continue to do nothing. I guarantee this guy is being paid, along with all the other anti-trump subs to keep up the drum beating of anti-trump rhetoric. This isn't something you do as a hobby or if you hate someone.
7 u/Terminal-Psychosis * 12 May 2017 06:57
Political propaganda has become a multi million dollar industry. Admins are fully aware of the damage ShareBlue & Co do here. It is very hard to imagine that none of that propaganda money landed in their pockets.
2 u/qaaqa 12 May 2017 13:45
Spez himself apparently wants this. The owner of reddit is the 7th largest media family in the world.
7 u/showmeurboobsplznthx 12 May 2017 07:43
This happens in so man subs for all kinds of special interest groups. My favorite is talking about controversial things and writing a corporations name in and then a short time later having an argument where they defend the company to the extent of saying it's not the companies fault for making money and people dying because of it. Bots/ paid internet presence are the new craze. Pretty soon your whole Reddit experience will be fake. Every user will have their own entire universe of bots instead of real people. Everyone will be so fucking proud of being in while being so disconnected from reality. All the big money ideas will rule.
6 u/Ramsays 12 May 2017 03:38
We all know this happens on a few subs. If reddit were to confront the issue it would hurt their credibility and possibly cause issues with advertisers. So you know... Just look away, nothing to see here....
6 u/pissyturdfucker_420 12 May 2017 04:42
this is really stupid, who gives a shit
8 u/Sleek_Bones 12 May 2017 06:49
I mean it isn't like the Reddit admins are totaly not doing their job or anything. Im guesing you just want censorship.
6 u/OB1_kenobi 12 May 2017 09:00
Bots and shills. Someone who doesn't know this comes to reddit and sees this crap ( a form of lying) on the front page every time they visit. They then get a false impression of Trump being unpopular. Basically this is negative astroturfing. If someone is willing to put in this kind of effort on reddit, think of all the negative coverage in the mainstream media. Same thing. In fact, I think of the recent elections in France. The media took it easy on Macaroni while going after LePen like a pack of dogs. The media is pushing a narrative about Russian election hacking. But they themselves are the biggest election hackers.
1 u/Caboucha 16 May 2017 12:18
>The media is pushing a narrative about Russian election hacking. But they themselves are the biggest election hackers. Preach it
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1 u/nikorette 12 May 2017 08:39
/u/user_history_bot @the-realDonaldTrump
3 u/User_History_Bot 12 May 2017 08:40
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1 u/[deleted] 12 May 2017 08:41
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1 u/User_History_Bot 12 May 2017 08:42
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1 u/RedheadAgatha 12 May 2017 12:13
/u/user_history_bot @redheadagatha
1 u/User_History_Bot 12 May 2017 12:14
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2 u/qaaqa 12 May 2017 13:48
> /u/user_history_bot @User_History_Bot THAT is 4 D chess!
1 u/User_History_Bot 12 May 2017 13:48
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1 u/qaaqa 12 May 2017 13:54
Thanks!
2 u/barawo33 12 May 2017 04:13
/u/User_history_bot @barawo33
4 u/User_History_Bot 12 May 2017 04:14
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1 u/barawo33 12 May 2017 04:17
LIES!!!!!!!
4 u/harborwolf 11 May 2017 18:10
REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
3 u/insanegorey 12 May 2017 04:24
Pretty good research into this. Do you know if there is a concrete way to get at voting data, otherwise they aren't "breaking" any rules, just posting through bot accounts. Will advertisers flee if the "primarily political" posts run into higher frequency and more rampant posting on several subreddits? Because if this is allowed on march, and t_d isn't, that'd be hilarious. They'd obvy circumvent this, and it'd just escalate. Now what would be true bot mastery would be kicking this into high gear, with mass vote manip and posting on both sides, that'd be a real spectator sport. Oh well, reddit has been shit for a while. Can't wait for the next semi-anon public forum to spring up.
3 u/coolguycraig 12 May 2017 06:51
Thanks for posting this. It's pathetic that people will go this far.
3 u/light_is_life 12 May 2017 07:50
I have to believe there's more than just political ideology behind such bamboozlement. Pay per post?
2 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 15:28
Its Soros funded, so yes. Both
3 u/Dulout 12 May 2017 08:10
Just throwing this out there, but don't all the news / Politics / link sharing sub posts consist 90% of RSS feed bots? If you go to any news sub, it is literally just an RSS feed of all the major news organizations. It's completely pointless to read them now, as the points don't do anything anymore to help rate which news is more important to people through the voting system. As well, this research doesn't do much to look at which particular stories are being pushed the most through vote manipulation, which is the primary concern. Votes and views control what content most users see, not whether a link is posted via an rss feed. I guess what i want to say overall is: This is a lot of research into something that we already knew. Thank you for putting forth the effort to create a good visual representation of how pretty much any and every news sub works, but you have not really touched on the subject of how they are abusing votes to create pseudo editors of the new pages on reddit, and you haven't been able to provide information on which stories or which story sources are being pushed the most. It would be more interesting to look at what they are posting, and see if there are any correlations with certain domain names, and see if those domain names are owned by related individuals or the same individual. That would be more interesting.
1 u/qaaqa * 12 May 2017 13:51
Actually we already knwo the domain targets by the actual rules of the subreddits like r / politics. They only allow domains that almost universally support their anti trump agenda. You dont even have to do analysis. They are blatant.
1 u/Dulout 13 May 2017 04:57
You missed the point. Are those news websites used by the bot owned by the same person or corporate entity, and are they trying to use reddit as free ad revenue was my point.
3 u/[deleted] 12 May 2017 08:48
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3 u/frulky 12 May 2017 10:11
All I can say is fuck /u/spez for allowing this.
3 u/mentalfist 12 May 2017 10:43
To be fair, it doesn't make the content of the articles any less true πŸ€”
2 u/Heinricher 12 May 2017 11:30
You wont know that because any opinion that opposes it or proves otherwise wont be found within Reddit comments, where this used to be the strong point of reddit but now it only serves one perspective which allows people to just lie without getting called out.
3 u/avalonhill 12 May 2017 11:04
The safe thing to do is to not form political impressions based on Reddit.
1 u/bufftart 12 May 2017 13:56
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3 u/airzoom23 12 May 2017 13:39
Reddit loves this cause this place (reddit as a whole) is a liberal agenda breeding ground. I wish there was some alternative.
2 u/bufftart 12 May 2017 13:52
Just block all the garbage subs that you don't like, I personally get a kick out of the brain dead echo chambers
2 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 15:19
Same. Im addicted to hate watching
2 u/ghostofpennwast 12 May 2017 00:58
I am pretty sure jpurdy and pnewell are bots as well...
2 u/daniel_ricciardo 12 May 2017 04:39
now do the_donald
2 u/knx2 12 May 2017 06:34
Reddit is dead. Join Gab.ai! /u/spez
2 u/Heinricher 12 May 2017 11:25
To late, OP. Neutrality is no longer a part of Reddit, it's pretty much a propaganda machine at this point. There is only one dominant narrative on Reddit and it's censoring other perspectives. So people wont mind the blatant usage of bots and other dubious tactics because they're already onboard with the narrative.
2 u/bufftart 12 May 2017 13:55
It's turning into another yahoo front page...
2 u/Sisaroth 12 May 2017 11:33
K, another subreddit added to the filter.
2 u/SendItDownrange 12 May 2017 11:41
[Great work, u/ggggnut](http://media.riffsy.com/images/32f5fde1bb24fe4376bd17a105aba511/tenor.gif)
2 u/teslaxoxo 12 May 2017 12:05
great work detective! Now to go /pol and /T_D and analyzed both and give us the results. This way we can finally debunked the idea people claimed T_D has a lot shills posting for them..but I think it's a lot of motivated people!
0 u/bufftart 12 May 2017 13:53
A bit of both
2 u/teslaxoxo 12 May 2017 14:22
hope he runs it..then we can prove it
5 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 15:23
Pretty sure T_D is scraped every day for bots, and the only thing they find are MAT's downvote bots. Other than that, TD is legit. Oh, that and theres 6 million subscribers.
2 u/DineLointHarpie 12 May 2017 12:23
Annnnnndddddd reddit will do nothing because that sub is devoted to hating Trump. The dirty open secret, which has been proven time and again, is that reddit has been flooded with bots engaged in anti-Trump behavior and the people running reddit do not care. If there were pro-Trump bots engaging in this sort of behavior you can bet they'd be all over it.
2 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 15:21
Im fascinated when the other side INSISTS that TD is all bots. This, by the way, based solely on the fact that they just CAN'T believe that we have that many numbers. No evidence. Just a refusal to believe it. Meanwhile, someone is scraping the TD sub every single day, and everything checks out. The only bots they find are anti-trump downvote bots. So the bots in TD arent even our bots. And we get accused of astro turfing. Typical leftist projection
2 u/Iorderedthepotato 12 May 2017 12:52
U/spez Care to comment? Doubt it. Fuck u/spez
1 u/bufftart 12 May 2017 13:52
Dick bags gonna be fuckboy no matter what
2 u/AltEgo25 12 May 2017 13:17
They are not sending their best folks.
2 u/JBeezy 12 May 2017 13:17
Reddit only reads headlines. If its anti-Trump consider it an automatic upvote. Just group think and circles jerks all damn day.
2 u/toby224 12 May 2017 13:18
Can we set up some bots to battle in r/politics
2 u/qaaqa 12 May 2017 13:42
Brilliant work. Is there a some software that can analyze the posting rate for acocunts or did you have to do it by hand?
2 u/Baron-G 12 May 2017 16:28
Gee, Democratic lies? I'm shocked, careful op, exposed information can get you a personal visit from Hillary. I haven't seen Democrats haven't been this pissed sense the slaves were freed.
1 u/[deleted] 12 May 2017 01:35
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1 u/Main_Fighter 12 May 2017 08:24
Why did I expect something like this to happen..
1 u/X-25Halo 12 May 2017 11:15
This is the type of stuff the Russians and Stasi did. These type of bots trying to influence the naive and easily manipulated straight out of the Soviet Politburo.
1 u/RoninGreg 12 May 2017 11:24
Russian Bots!
1 u/NotTheFriendliest 12 May 2017 11:36
Mods. Do something. Please. I go onto that subreddit and resist all the time and talk major shit because it's obvious as fuck they force several post a day to the front page. It's so fake the comments are always pro Trump ffs , it's absurd! AND HYPOCRITICAL!
1 u/[deleted] 12 May 2017 13:54
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2 u/NotTheFriendliest 12 May 2017 15:09
Awe did the facts trigger you?
1 u/Banequo 12 May 2017 12:05
As someone who works for a eCom company, just about any online statistics are completely false in regards to followers, subscriptions, impressions, clicks, posts, etc. The Left is completely destroyed and demotivated right now. Only the most ardent and loud are left, screaming up a storm of non-existent "imminent threats" and the like. It's all robots. I have no worry about the direction of this Proud Country under the leadership of the God Emperor Trump. He is doing the job in a brilliant manner for anyone paying attention. Truly in for a great next 7 1/2 years 'PEDES! Never forget that Trump is a man of America!
1 u/amsterdam_pro 12 May 2017 12:11
MAT is a really weird sub. It does not network with other anti-Trump subs (no links in sidebar). There is obvious botting going on. ETS mods suspect it is somehow a secret pro-Trump sub.
0 u/GregariousWolf 12 May 2017 13:15
Yeah, some of the anti-Trump subs are kind of suspicious of him.
1 u/RedheadAgatha 12 May 2017 12:11
How do you connect the bots to the monkey?
1 u/CVDP61 12 May 2017 13:05
Lets get this to the frontpage, people need to know.
1 u/qaaqa 12 May 2017 14:00
It doesnt make any difference in this case but its worth noting that userhistorybot does not keep track of poststhat were deleted. Its not reading the live feed and keeping track. That matters if analysing somethings. For example r / jokes removes jokes that are pro trump . I looks like i havent posted many places except the donald however in reality i post many places but the moderstors remove the posts because they are protrump. I have probably posted 50 pro trump jokes to r jokes yet only one joke survived the anti trump moderators.
1 u/rijoja 12 May 2017 14:11
It is humanly possible to post 33 posts a day. What makes you so sure it is automated?
3 u/egrodiel 12 May 2017 14:58
Did you read? How do you post 4 submissions in 1 second? Or 7 submissions in 3s?
3 u/egrodiel 12 May 2017 14:58
Did you read? How do you post 4 submissions in 1 second? Or 7 submissions in 3s?
1 u/rijoja 13 May 2017 10:06
Apparently not
1 u/egrodiel 13 May 2017 18:51
should do so before asking already answered questions
1 u/rijoja 14 May 2017 18:46
well aren't you in a cheerful mood today
1 u/[deleted] 14 May 2017 22:22
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1 u/rijoja 14 May 2017 22:47
ha
3 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 15:18
Its not humanly possible to post 33 posts in 1 second. You have to read to learn things.
1 u/rijoja 13 May 2017 10:04
Oh you are right I only skimmed it.
1 u/ArcadianDelSol 12 May 2017 14:43
SO what happens to Reddit when it's paid advertisers realize that the vast majority of the reported ad impressions are being made by bots, who don't actually read or buy anything?
1 u/johnchapel 12 May 2017 15:17
massive pullouts, or fraud charges. Reddit is far too deep in for Spez to pretend he doesn't know about the astroturfing here.
1 u/cerebral_scrubber 12 May 2017 15:23
Nothing. It will always just be a 'conspiracy' and I would guess many of the big advertisers on reddit probably support these efforts...
1 u/modshavepenisevy 12 May 2017 15:53
Oh okay.
1 u/Mr_Hagbard_Celine 12 May 2017 17:14
Thank you for compiling this list. Very impressive and gets a lot more done than comments bitching about bots even if our glorious overlords just let it happen day in and day out. Cheers mate.
1 u/AndrewnotJackson 12 May 2017 17:23
Interesting
1 u/CoMaBlaCK 12 May 2017 17:24
Honestly it doesn't even matter, even the best case scenario is reddit shows their rules aren't just for subs they don't like and bans that sub, there's 100 more that all serve the same purpose.
1 u/NeverThrowawayUSA 12 May 2017 18:18
How do we spread this? Who can we tweet this to that might pick it up and run a story on it?
1 u/Minhyme 12 May 2017 18:57
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditCensors/comments/6as7w6/confession_from_exmoderator_and_bot_master_of/ The guy admitted to it!
1 u/RandomThrowaway410 13 May 2017 03:44
Holy shit
-1 u/Fawnedisc † 11 May 2017 20:28
Are you telling me that they use the same techniques as T_D to manipulate upvotes? OMG!
29 u/dingoperson2 11 May 2017 20:46
No, if you were not a complete retard you would have understood that he is not mainly talking about upvote manipulation, but about mass posting.
26 u/G_Petronius [OP] 11 May 2017 21:08
If you have evidence of t_d doing it, post it. So far, the best I saw was a list of 200 accounts, some suspended and some deleted, which a guy claimed were former t_d bots without giving any kind of evidence.
1 u/Fawnedisc † 11 May 2017 23:51
Check my previous comment.
21 u/ambivilant 11 May 2017 21:15
I'd love to see evidence of this happening on T_D. Please, show me.
10 u/Fawnedisc 11 May 2017 23:23
* [ELI5: How is /r/The_Donald using bots to manipulate upvotes](https://np.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/54e6dl/eli5_how_is_rthe_donald_using_bots_to_manipulate/d814j0r/) * [Top mod of /r/the_donald sub gets banned for vote manipulation and threatening moderators of other subreddits](https://np.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/4o70u8/top_mod_of_rthe_donald_sub_gets_banned_for_vote/) * [Activity level in post on the_donald vs the rest of the website](http://i.imgur.com/k1YpAGR.png) * [Clear evidence of Reddit vote manipulation in /r/the_donald](https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/585sd6/clear_evidence_of_reddit_vote_manipulation_in/) * [How The_Donald is a bot-fueled upvote farm](https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/58113f/study_bots_accounted_for_a_third_of_all_protrump/d8wly3j/) * [r/the_donald was systematically manipulating Reddit’s voting system](http://gizmodo.com/reddit-is-tearing-itself-apart-1789406294)
30 u/ambivilant 11 May 2017 23:47
None of that is evidence of this caliber.
10 u/Fawnedisc 12 May 2017 00:01
[Sure](http://cdn2.crushable.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/jlaw-okay.gif)
22 u/ambivilant 12 May 2017 00:14
I know being high energy as fuck is a foreign concept to your slovenly ass, but that's hardly evidence on particular with what's been presented here.
4 u/[deleted] 12 May 2017 00:46
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9 u/Inane_ramblings 12 May 2017 00:39
Let me just offer a mirror: you asked for evidence and then when it was provided you moved the goal post to say 'of this calibre'. How does that look?
20 u/ambivilant 12 May 2017 00:44
Because nothing presented is evidence, it's all speculation.
7 u/Tasty_Jesus 12 May 2017 04:17
Lmao The guy in the first link even states it's conjecture
12 u/Klokinator 12 May 2017 03:46
> ELI5: How is /r/The_Donald using bots to manipulate upvotes https://puu.sh/vNmfy/bcd2888df6.png WHEEEEEZE This just in, a top Reddit mod is a Trump supporter. Fantastic evidence there, guys. Fuck's sake. Never mind chatlogs of mods coming out and saying they wish they could just eradicate the sub. Fugg lmao
6 u/SadIHaveToUseAnAlt 12 May 2017 04:22
All of these links lead to comments that say, "Look at how many upvotes their posts have, that can't be real!". That's not evidence of anything, it's just general incredulity. This post proves that the implicated accounts are doing something that's physically impossible for a human to do. See the difference? I mean, I suspect that some users/entities in r/T_D are doing this too, because it's a sufficiently large community, and many of the users there feel their community needs to look big and well-supported to "oppose" the rest of Reddit, but.. Nobody has really proved that to the same standard as this, and you're just making your positions look dumb by saying they have.
5 u/godonskis2 12 May 2017 02:34
Guess who you sound like. "But, but, HILLARY did this."
7 u/AnindoorcatBot 12 May 2017 04:05
Muh Russian Trump bots
10 u/Klokinator 12 May 2017 03:42
The difference is The_Donald has 9,000 people online constantly with way more on the weekends. These anti-trump subs frequently have a mere 22 people online until [the mass bot army arrives](https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/69i20k/definitive_proof_of_massive_upvote_manipulation/).
-8 u/[deleted] 11 May 2017 17:44
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10 u/yetanotherAZN 11 May 2017 18:55
I think the hair dye is getting to your head