> My point is that conscience was a step in evolution that brought us prosperous human civilizations. I like where you're going with this, but I don't know if we can call any set of rules an evolutionary step. It's definitely a positive and productive move. > Your confusing conscious(self awareness) with conscience(ability to discern right from wrong) i think. "People told similar stories before written records"(or whatever you said im on mobile and cant see). Where did they get the idea for the stories then? They unknowingly (or maybe knowingly) came up with the stories in order to better explain what they interpreted to be right and what they interpreted to be wrong, aka conscience. I meant to use conscience. It's understandable that people like to believe they are inherently good, but good is an objective term. Say my family and I were starving in India and I found a cow and slaughtered it for food. To my family I would be good because I provided food, but to Indians I would be evil because I killed a sacred animal. (At least I think it's sacred.) That's why we call ourselves "the people" because people are associated with good. Those outside our tribe are called "others" etc because they are not the people and therefore a possible threat. We associate ourselves as good, but outsiders as possibly bad. People told each other stories, and still do, as a way of passing on knowledge. Philosophy likes to cover this in great detail. Moral stories are very popular to tell because they teach people to treat each other well instead of submitting to their more primitive emotions, like anger, and destroying each other. Humanity has a very long history of warring with one another over resources and those instincts are very much alive in today's society. "Punch a nazi" is a good example of people submitting to anger rather than discourse. Just about every Disney movie is based on some old story mankind have been telling each other for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. > What makes us unique is not intelligence but conscience. I get the feeling free will is going to be associated with positive behavior, but what if I told you your actual free will is limited? Most of what you do in life is due to learned behaviors. The whole religion thing is proof of this. You learn that life outside your tribe is valuable. That's not something you inherently know. If your mind functioned off of conscience without intelligence you would be a very primitive creature. You would be driven by emotions and instincts alone. Mankind has already told the story of how this bad in several ways. Perhaps this will be familiar to you. Think with your mind and not with your heart. To think with your heart is to think with your conscience and to be impulsive. To think with your mind is to use your intelligence and often your intelligence prevents you from making rash decisions. I've been known to purposefully attempt to emotionally compromised others in debate for the simple fact that once a person becomes emotionally compromised... they stop thinking rationally and they start making mistakes driven by their emotional minds. This is your conscience overriding your intelligence. No matter how intelligent a person is... once they become emotionally compromised I can manipulate them very easily because they stopped thinking with their brain and started thinking with their feelings. The struggle to survive is what drives a person forward. I don't believe it's a matter of free will. The drowning man syndrome is proof of that. I understand it's a hard concept to swallow, but you don't have the free will you think you do. You're just saying these things because you're comfortable right now. Let me take away your creature comforts. Let me make you hungry or angry over a period of time and your personality will dramatically change. Your morals you think to be the foundation of your being will collapse and you will become someone entirely different. Many soldiers suffer PTSD during war time and one of the reasons is prolonged exposure to fear and anger cause a person to change. You become something much different and your brain changes in these ways to adapt you to survive your circumstances. Then people come home and return to their old morals and have to look in the mirror and realize what a monster they were during war. People struggle with that because they thought, like you, they were conscious creatures with good morals, but look at the horrible things they did. They find themselves overwhelmed because they know they did something terrible yet cannot justify it to themselves. They can't distinguish the fact there is a difference between the mind at peace and the mind at war. Thus they cannot forgive themselves. I don't wonder why the left is crazy. I understand they gave up on rationality and went straight to emotionally driven fallacies and identity politics. Don't claim to know why, but you may be right. I don't know. Their desire for world domination seems reasonable. I do know this. Anyone could be made into a monster. Some mindsets are quicker to fall inline than others, but anyone can be made into a monster. People who understand what they really are tend to swim in the shallows of their being because they know what lies in the depths of their abyss. I know I am capable of terrible things. I know I am capable of becoming a Nazi or any sort of ruthless killer. I understand that the moment all these creature comforts disappear and desperation sinks in... my mindset will change I will become what I must to survive. But since I know this I also know what to look out for and be wary of. I know how to identify these traits in others and I know when to look out for these traits in myself.

You clearly have no remorse for intentionally misleading thousands of people to further your agenda, but if you had a brain you would try and salvage any remaining credibility you and your subreddit still have among centrists by admitting you made a mistake (we are human, everyone makes them) and correcting the fake news. But I'm pretty sure you are the type of self-righteous person who can never own up to their own errors how ever significant they may in order to protect your fragile ego, so I doubt that will ever happen.

#Gotem Seriously though, if you think spreading fake news and censoring the truth will help your cause in the long run, you are a fucking dumbass.

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