Traffic statistics from /r/MarchAgainstTrump show how the botting stopped immediately after the sub was taken away from former top mod barawo33

375    02 Jul 2017 18:07 by u/G_Petronius

https://i.imgur.com/SoISWEj.png https://i.imgur.com/vZwxfOa.png I don't think I even need to point out which day it was. This is as blatant as it gets, and if it's this evident from a crude metric like the traffic stats it's certainly completely transparent to the reddit admins. Yet the sub has never been banned, in fact its old mod team has been allowed to set up shop in /r/political_tweets and keep botting their own content to the frontpage with impunity.

35 comments

49 u/veniceinperil 02 Jul 2017 18:31
That's all right. Someone has to be the test case. Where is Reddit headquartered? Contact their AG.
61 u/ImImhotep 02 Jul 2017 18:39
But the administration is pretty anti-Trump, so don't expect fairness.
-81 u/Manholt 02 Jul 2017 18:55
Then why isn't T_D banned if it's *so* unfair? They've committed plenty of ban-worthy offenses.
34 u/georgeapg 02 Jul 2017 20:01
because it is a containment sub. much like /pol/ on 4chan if it was ever removed it's population would spread. the same thing happened when although right was banned. having it so contained also males it easier to force special rules.
16 u/conspiracy_thug 03 Jul 2017 03:35
The user base of TD spreads when they get banned by the retarded liberal mods that now have forcibly taken over the subreddit. I am a prime example of such spreading, now I am in multiple different subs.
1 u/[deleted] 03 Jul 2017 16:52
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33 u/HardCounter 03 Jul 2017 01:47
I bet you also think Trump has done things to deserve impeachment.
0 u/Pickel_Weasel 03 Jul 2017 07:17
LOL!
19 u/samsc2 03 Jul 2017 04:14
It's been pretty much banned. It cannot be on the front page ever. It has all kinds of special rules and regulations no other sub needs to follow. They even changed the popular algorithm numerous times in order to completely isolate it from ever showing up to anyone.
8 u/Terminal-Psychosis * 03 Jul 2017 09:13
The mods in T_D, if anything, are super-diligent at squelching any infringements. They need to be, considering the blatant abuse and selective enforcement of nebulous "rules" the admins aim at them specifically. There are hundreds of other subs used and abused by shady propaganda agencies like ShareBlue & Co, with full admin approval. Botting like this is a cancer on the face of reddit. Not to mention all the brigading and outright hostile threats that mods and users of T_D recieve, with deafening silence from the admins. Not long ago some T_D mods publicly called out the admins for their blatant hypocrisy. Admin response? Suspended the whistle-blower's accounts. :( The admins would LOVE to outright ban them, but banning the sub where our POTUS did his AMA would be a public relations *nightmare* for them. Reddit admins already have a well-deserved reputation as rabid left-wing extremists. Banning T_D would create a media shitstorm, shining a glaring light on their extreme bias. This is something that the admins are not willing to face.
-1 u/ThisCatMightCheerYou 03 Jul 2017 09:13
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3 u/[deleted] 03 Jul 2017 11:07
Making up rules for specific subreddits is discrimination.
5 u/[deleted] 03 Jul 2017 11:06
Shareholders won't be too happy
17 u/CommanderBlurf 03 Jul 2017 01:17
They're in San Francisco, local/state government is despotically progressive. They're not going to do a thing.
7 u/Frontfart 03 Jul 2017 08:29
*regressive
7 u/HardCounter 03 Jul 2017 01:57
Why would anyone contact the Attorney General? What about this is illegal?
7 u/threesimplewords 03 Jul 2017 02:06
I agree. Its a super shitty thing to do, but certainly not illegal
2 u/dr_chill_pill 03 Jul 2017 08:38
I disagree. Reddit is a company. If Trump's interest groups don't want to pay Reddit than other politicians who have should be able to lobby.
2 u/veniceinperil 03 Jul 2017 02:12
Incitement to riot, probably
33 u/TotesMessenger 02 Jul 2017 18:13
I'm a bot, *bleep*, *bloop*. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit: - [/r/uncensorednews] [Traffic statistics from \/r\/MarchAgainstTrump show how the botting stopped immediately after the sub was taken away from former top mod barawo33 • r\/RedditCensors](https://np.reddit.com/r/uncensorednews/comments/6kunjx/traffic_statistics_from_rmarchagainsttrump_show/) [](#footer)*^(If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads.) ^\([Info](/r/TotesMessenger) ^/ ^[Contact](/message/compose?to=/r/TotesMessenger))* [](#bot)
3 u/melomanian 03 Jul 2017 12:57
This is great, thanks for finding proof. I wonder how many subs are doing this? I'm really curious what advertisers think about this too... that's a lot of stolen ad revenue.
2 u/TWK128 04 Jul 2017 20:05
You should contact them and ask.
3 u/melomanian 04 Jul 2017 20:07
Good idea! Any idea who? Dataxu?
2 u/[deleted] 02 Jul 2017 19:34
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-68 u/Zebid 02 Jul 2017 18:50
Correlation != Causation
85 u/johnchapel * 02 Jul 2017 18:52
Except he got caught, and the guy who made the bots admitted he made them, put them to use, and was specifically requested to do so by mods, so actually yes in this case, the correlation is the causation.
-38 u/Zebid 02 Jul 2017 18:54
Source?
64 u/johnchapel 02 Jul 2017 18:58
[Here's when he initially admitted it](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditCensors/comments/6as7w6/confession_from_exmoderator_and_bot_master_of/) and stipulated to his collusion with Snus. The second relevant post is difficult for me to find, as both Snus and Barawo33 are now account suspended, so I have no post history to be able to search through, but essentially, it implicates Barawo33 in the involvement and continuation with the bots as well.
2 u/Zebid † 02 Jul 2017 19:00
Thanks!
2 u/HardCounter 03 Jul 2017 01:55
It's clear from OP's data that there was vote botting going on, but your source has nothing to do with that. Your sourced story is about bots reposting articles from other subs, not about vote manipulation. In that story he specifically states there was no vote manipulation to his knowledge, which is the topic of this post, and I can't imagine he changed his mind in a second admission letter.
2 u/gravity013 13 Jul 2017 17:17
Hm, that's not how correlation and causation works. For instance, the cause might be an influx of users in from all, which could be attributed to good content, that just happens to be missing. The charts seem to suggest otherwise, but data is finnicky like that. Another cause could be that the subreddit had a falling out. When he says correlation != causation, he's implying taking a logical stance that you can't just look at every correlation and assume its the cause. To see it so vehemently downvoted makes it clear that people here aren't fans of logic. It doesn't devalue the correlation at all, merely suggests the correlation be seen as a correlation with the understanding that many factors could have caused it.
-4 u/JournalismSureIsDead † 03 Jul 2017 00:19
Stfu
5 u/Zebid † 03 Jul 2017 00:24
Ironic.
0 u/JournalismSureIsDead † 03 Jul 2017 00:58
Correlation != Causation, but also Correlation == Causation. It's not always one way, you fool!