That wasn't my experience, but I only recently found it when I started noticing the censorship being ratcheted up to 11 around here. It is especially sad seeing that freedom of speech(even, nay, especially odious speech) was supposed to be allowed. Better to have the people out in the day light where you can see them, engage with them, discuss things with them and hopfully change their minds - than in the shadows where they breed, their ideas go unchecked and to every outside appearance looks like they are being censored because people fear what they have to say/are correct.
Brigading is a buzzword that has no actual meaning with how often it gets thrown around.
All it takes is for a post to hit rising and tread outside its echo chamber for the normal users to REEEEEEEEE about brigading.
The mods here locked and removed opinions they didn't agree with.
The admins removed a sub that had a history of inciting violence and refused to cooperate within the ToS.
Damn, this thread got hit hard by (yet another) brigade from the SRS.
Their MO is literally the very thing they *claim* to be against.
Trying to physically remove any and all dissenting argument, because their "logic" doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
/politics, /worldnews and pretty much every other major "news" sub are nothing but ShareBlue propaganda outlets.
SRS style subs are also infinitely more guilty of direct calls to violence than any of the subs the admins have come down on.
The hypocrisy is real.
This is literally what happened. Hit /r/all, bringing in people who were glad to hear the news, but of course the triggered little Red Caps love feeling oppressed so much that they have to concoct conspiracy theories to make them feel like they're being brigaded.
We should outlaw hate to protect your tender feelings. Or we should at least keep it away from you, cupcake. I didn't realize how badly your feelings were hurt! Awww.
Yea, God forbid we let people with such a tenuous mental state, gasp, read unpopular or otherwise hateful opinions. Everybody knows that reading words that hurt your feelings is tantamount to rape. I'll put this here because I'm sure you interact with people that actually think this way....
/s
I'll take being exposed to a diverse range of ideologies (even abhorrent ones) to your alternative. No matter how disgusting you find it it is "still just words." I suppose you're in favor of book burning too since words can be so dangerous. I suggest you read fahrenheit 451, but I'm sure you would somehow find it too upsetting.
I used to be like you, you know. I went around thinking "censorship" when Richard Spencer got punched in the head, when /r/news closed threads about radical Islam. That was before I realized that if you give Nazi's an inch with these things then they'll take a mile. And when Nazi's take a mile, innocent people are killed. I'll take censorship over genocide apology any day of the week.
well despite it's name /r/uncensorednews was just as trigger happy as t_D with their banning and censoring of anything that wasn't an altright opinion or news.
That's bullshit and you know it, I don't even have to look at your comment history, just gonna throw a wild one out there, bet you post onto all those toy-commie subreddits that are ban-happier than any dictatorship this planet has seen.
They take shitty blogpost article about something from Germany and state it as truth. Don't make the mistake to correct them if it doesn't paint every single immigrant and left guy as 100% racist.
I think my ban was for giving sources that the "family value" march was just over regional neonazi groups showing up in a small town and abusing the death of a teenager. Because better bash the violent left that protests for more murder of pure blooded german innocent girls...
They used the swedish neonazi logo for their subreddit... Why would a subreddit that is more extreme than t_D be less trigger happy if t_D wouldn't be unable to keep their echo chamber up without heavy moderation (see any /r/Libertarian frontpost compared the t_D shit).
He's not making an excuse. He's saying if you don't like that sort of content then don't seek it out.
As to the content of your comments: They are disgustingly racist, but none of them are calling for violence which is why the sub was banned.
Except he was making an excuse and you're defending it by denying that. There have been many posts where people have talked about Muslim genocide like no big deal in that sub. Where the fuck have you been?
So what? Just because you do not agree with the comment means it needs to censored and banned? That is fucking asinine. I do not share the sentiments in those particular comments but i do not feel the need to get all high and mighty and ban something just because i think the comment is wrong. I absolutely find censorship appalling, childish and plain old idiotic. EDIT: There doesn't need to be an excuse! An excuse for what? If that is how they feel then so be it. Who the hell am i, that i would need an excuse?
The liberal democrat is not about helping himself to what he likes, he's about helping others to what he likes.
There's a non zero possibility that Reddit may ban hammer RedditCensors as well.
The people saying: "kum-bai-yah can't we all just get along" are the ones causing the import of tens of millions of fighting age uneducated Muslim men into Europe, to wage a Jihad and destabilizing everything there enough to make Trump so idolized to cause politicians in Europe to mirror.
I'm the one calling party foul on all the above using effective communication and proof in no uncertain terms, and I'm the one who don't understand what is and isn't appropriate?
Things are not as black and white as you make them out to be. You can't just point at someone and say: "racist" and then automatically win the argument. You have to show that hating ISIS fighters in the middle east is a bad thing when condemning someone who says ISIS fighters should be killed. This is hatred toward a religious group, yet it's not wrong, because the world isn't as simple as you think. You can't just be intolerant to other people's intolerance and say: "your intolerance won't be tolerated". A deep inspection of the ethics of the situation shows that you're the one who needs to learn about acceptability.
This conversation is very deep and nuanced. There's no one sentence recipe for determining rightness here.
So, all muslims are ISIS?
For someone pretending to be have an intellectual opinion on the matter, you have zero integrity or character.
Why not meet a muslim person, and share a meal with them. Sit in on one of their sermons or prayers. You would find out immediately that the are exactly the same as christians. Down to their core beliefs.
But no. You post on a sub that currently supports racist propaganda. hopefully reddit will carpet bomb all these subs, and hopefully you grow up and learn how to respect other human beings.
> they [muslims] are exactly the same as christians. Down to their core beliefs.
Not true. Christians don't believe in male ownership of females and females being non people, Muslims do. Jesus didn't command Christians make continual warfare with everyone who isn't Christian, but Mohammad did instruct all Muslims to make continual warfare with everyone who isn't Muslim.
The statement that christianity is the same as Islam is the ignorant intellectual opinion. Yes, all Muslims are ISIS. Islamic State isn't a religion, it's an entire system of civilization stem to stern. The religious component is only a part of it. islam is government, military, social services, technology sector, the whole 9 yards.
My, and uncensorednews's effectiveness at proving this to be the case is why the sub was taken down. Give me another hour to persuade you, and I can. As I have countless others. The data is there. Your grandfathers carried out a first and second crusade against the Muslims, and they were on the sight of right. Trump may be creating the conditions for a 3rd.
>Ever heard of the Crusades?
You mean the efforts to repel the repeated Islamic territorial invasions that led Christian theology, previously doctrinally opposed to war as Islam to this day never has been, to develop its own concept of "just war"? Why, yes, why do you ask?
You are engaged in a battle of education with an unarmed man(xhe?).
They will parrot emotions at you in response to facts. They will parrot sound bites back to you in response to you calling out their parroting.
This is the type of cancerous person taking over thought policing. They think they are educated, and technically they are, it's just that the education they received was biased and not accurate.
This fundamental flaw in their intellectualist foundation is why they embody the concept of "A mind becomes a detriment when it aquires more intelligence than it's integrity can handle."
Btw u/nutritionisawesome, you can't be racist against Muslims or Islam. It's not a race. Look for Islamia or Muslimistan on the map. Islam/Muslim is a religion of intolerance and is NOT like Christianity. Christianity has this little thing called the "New Testament" which brought its religious practices out of the primitive, and into the modern age.
Islam lacks this concept and is still 100% based on the intolerance and violence of hatred against those who are not Muslim it has always been. The women who lived in places where Islam holds sway continually speak out against the restrictive hateful laws that force them to cover their faces or be killed or raped.
They must think the lib females in the US who wear hijabs "in solidarity" are fucking dumb as rocks.
You can attempt to belittle me with your perceived knowledge all you want. Not all Muslim countries are like that. Its dishonest to even say so.
As long as we can keep taking down hate mongering subs like uncensored news, good is triumphant
Lmao fuck off with your hate filled leftist bullshit. You guys trying to see how much your Muslims hate you is like a fat guy trying to see his pecker by looking down. The fat belly of your own ignorance gets in the way.
You hate the right for trying to secure the country while embracing the ideology that wants to destroy you more than any other.
Trying to say you're Muslim but don't want to murder Westerners is like saying I'm Vegan but only eat steak.
I don't want their ideology or yours. I want health care, free education, parental leave, and the right to choose to be staples of what makes America. Until the right supports that, ill be against everything else they stand for.
I have one very important question for you:
"Do you have a plan for implementing these things you want and how to pay for them, and are you currently running for office?"
If he’s a Nazi, then yes, that’s exactly what he would believe. It’s one of the fundamental tenets of National Socialist philosophy. Companies are there to serve the nation, not only to amass profit.
I find that most white supremacists nowadays toe the Republican line on the free market and government regulation
Especially ones that tote freedom of speech as a main tenet
edit: Spelling
If anything, under Trump the Republicans are taking more anti-free market stances. The tariffs enacted last week are a good example of that. Expect many more protectionist moves in the coming years.
ah yeah, a small auto correct typo totally makes me a fucking idiot
tenet: noun, a doctrine, dogma, principle, or opinion, in religion, philosophy, politics, or the like, held by a school, sect, party, or person. Both tenet and tenant derive from the same Latin verb, tenere, “to hold.” The third person form of the verb is tenet, “he holds.”
These guys citing free speech as why they should be allowed to stay around is basically the ultimate concession. They're pretty much admitting that their best argument in favor of what they're saying is that it's not literally illegal to say.
It really doesn't since most of the conservatives and protectionists over there thought it was a free speech rally (as it was advertised) until the second day when the videos of "You [Jews] will not replace us" started surfacing. They also stickied a message condemning the alt-right immediately following that.
If you aren't willing to give your political opponents the same charity you'd give yourself you're just another bad actor polarizing the political field. And you very well might be being charitable. I don't know. Just make sure you don't end up at a rally with antifa in it because I can guarantee you you'll be lumped in with those post-modernist mini-Stalins and you'll deserve it.
Saying "Richard Spencer will be there" is entirely different than saying "hey, it's a Nazi rally". CPAC hosted Le Pen who was a stones throw from Spencer and only a mini-Stalin would call that a Nazi rally. Obviously you shouldn't listen to mini-Stalins. There were dozens of posts stating traditional conservative speakers were invited and would be attending including the one you're probably referring to (link please, by the way). By the time the rally happened nearly all of them had distanced themselves and didn't show up. Why would T_D condemn them if they wanted to support Nazis? The actual Nazis don't. Why are their two most popular political commentators a gay man engaged to a black man and an orthodox Jew? Your claim makes no sense.
Please don't give purposefully misleading accounts of your political opponents. It's causing the degradation of our society and it's honestly not persuasive to centrists.
> Saying "Richard Spencer will be there" is entirely different than saying "hey, it's a Nazi rally".
He was literally the top billing on the flier that was going around. This isn't "he's gonna be there," this is "he's headlining."
What flier? We're on Reddit. We don't have fliers. I saw a post advertising a free speech rally in Cville that day and listed a ton of names including Milo Yiannopoulos. I'm pretty sure that was the day I learned who Richard Spencer even was for the first time (or maybe it was the punch a Nazi thing?). Link the post or you're just spewing hot air because what you're describing is absolutely not what I saw there.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170806002037/https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6rsng3/unite_the_right_in_charlottesville_next_week/
It was obviously a nazi rally, they acknowledged it, this is dumb.
This isn't the post I saw, but the content is mostly the same minus all the other speakers that were supposed to be there (but dropped out). I guess with only 3.8k upvotes it's not surprising it was missed (most at the time were 10-15k).
I'll concede that this was posted (thanks for providing it, by the way), but it seems to refute your claim considering it directly voices opposition to the speakers' views and the most charitable thing I says about them is "don't punch right." which is an outgrowth of the left motto "don't punch left".
I'll restate, if you claim the posters at T_D are Nazis you are hurting our social fabric. This is no different than me claiming everyone on Sanders4Pres was a communist which is clearly not the case. You still haven't explained why their favorite commenters seems to magically be every thing the alt-right hates. Your argument has no legs to stand on now that we can see the post is clearly not an embrace of Nazi values.
Perhaps you should consider improving your trait openness. It will help your view of the world be less hostile when you're more charitable. Especially when you're supposed to be on the same side. We all want to make America better.
> I'll concede that this was posted (thanks for providing it, by the way), but it seems to refute your claim considering it directly voices opposition to the speakers' views and the most charitable thing I says about them is "don't punch right." which is an outgrowth of the left motto "don't punch left".
Bullshit. “I don’t endorse nazis but” in your advertisement for a nazi rally is still an endorsement. He’s straight up telling them to go along with it.
It doesn't mention him. We were talking about two different posts. The one I saw did mention Spencer which is why his name came up here. It's an easy misunderstanding. Obviously there were going to be more than just one post about the rally, but it was a rather innocuous event until everyone who wasn't alt-right (wisely) bailed leaving pure, concentrated Neo-Nazi behind. They're probably the only thing as bad as Neo-Marxists. I mean, did we learn nothing from the 20th century? At least take solace in the fact that *both* political factions in the US despise Neo-Nazis.
Nowhere in Reddit's Rules does it say: You're only allowed to talk about Left-Leaning politics. They ban people at their own discretion, whereas /r/The_Donald openly says in the rules that it's a pro Donald subreddit and that it's against the rules to post anti-Donald stuff. Are you seriously pretending like there isn't 1000 anti trump subreddits for every pro one?
REDDIT is not allowing communities to exist.
TD is not allowing anti-trump content to exist in their personal community.
Get this through your dense skull you limp dicked shithead before someone graciously does it for you.
REDDIT is not allowing hate speech and calls for violence in their personal community. See how that works? UncensoredNews literally had white nationalist iconography as their official logo.
Reddit is a private company that has no obligation to host content from anyone. Their ToS clearly state that any sub advocating hate speech will be banned. Free speech does not apply to private companies. Go be a Nazi sympathizer somewhere else.
Reddit does have the right to do that.
Reddit just abuses it and there's a clearly observable pattern on which side they take.
If reddit were a country, the citizens would be rising up and killing off the corrupt officials while the useless watch on.
> If reddit were a country, the citizens would be rising up and killing off the corrupt officials while the useless watch on.
Rrrright.
You're taking this way too seriously.
These fucking people are more than allowed, still, to go out and voice their shitty, hate-filled opinions. Just because they're not allowed to do it on one subreddit doesn't mean they've been censored. Reddit has every right to stop bullshit like this, and the shoe will never be on the other foot because progressives really don't advocate white supremacy and genocide.
LMAO. You keep telling yourself that [even though it's right wing extremists who are out in droves committing terrorism.](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/u-s-sees-300-violent-attacks-inspired-far-right-every-year)
Oh right I forgot those never happened.
Guess I'm really just a nazi instead of someone who doesn't like views getting silenced!
Off yourself you despicable leech.
On T_D daily I see pro Trump posts and comments and people encouraging each other to succeed.
On the rest of Reddit I see not a single thread, even PORN, that can be up for 10 minutes before someone starts a political tirade against Trump and spews hate and vitriol against all Trump supporters. This, mind you, when nobody even mentioned politics. They create their own door, then open it and step through.
99% of the hate on Reddit is from the left. Then they point to the 1% from the right as justification. Like, how do you even justify it? Isn't the point that you're supposed to be better than us? Or is it just that we are both shit but your shit is ok?
Goddamn idiots all.
This is where you show your stupidity, those people won't suddenly stop "hating" anyone, you're not "letting" anyone do anything. Those people will still do what they do and feel how they feel, all you did was shut down a sub.
Reddit admins are the nazis here.
Edit; What a nice surprise, I come back 7 hours later, and see all those pro-censorship have deleted their comments that showed they were fools. Glad some common sense prevailed.
When I news of the literal white genocide in South Africa on world news I'll steer clear of controversial subreddits like uncensored news, okay sweetie (: ..!
No it was not. It was to post stuff that news or world news bans because it did not fit their narrative. Yes there were racist people there but there are racist people everywhere.
racist people aren't always spread out evenly though. they accumulate in the dark corners when you aren't looking. sure, it may have started innocently enough, but it sure didn't end that way
I have been subbed to this for months and the tone has never been such. Like people who like to censor and active in a sub that complains about reddit censoring. I'm sure the Monday morning meeting at reddit was "ok we are gonna ban this so we need to be on damage control and shut down decent asap".
Being a Jew doesn't automatically make you a citizen. Just because you can apply for citizenship very easily doesn't make you a citizen
It'd be like saying all Irish Americans are Irish citizens, because if you can prove your grandparents were Irish you can get citizenship. Other countries have similar schemes, and as a melting pot plenty of Americans are eligible.
Yeah, everyone knows that banning violent hate speech is what defines Nazis. Wait no, I'm thinking of "wanting to kill Jews, ethnic minorities, and other groups perceived as undesirable". I always get those mixed up.
everyone knows that "hate speech" has morphed into meaning people saying stuff I disagree with and words hurt..
What ever happened to sticks and stones can break my bone, but words can never hurt me? You know the stuff kids in grade 1 knew, understood and could live with?? Yet now, all you apparently young adults are all triggered.
Just a sad state of affairs.
OK,,, and? Ignore it. If using that word is what defines someone as a racist, then the entire rap industry is racist.. but I don't hear people freaking out about that - do they? Heck, the same people that claim to be so offended by people using that word, tend to really like that genre of music.. Strange.
Ohyeahhhhhhhhhhh, that's it...... Arghhhhhhhhhhh.
What a load. I'll be sure to send you the tribute photo I took of Darling Donny covered in my love juices.
My grandpa flew in a B-17 over Africa and Normandy in WW2
I asked him once as a teenager, passive aggressively, if it helped not having to see the people he was killing
He said, no, that was the bombardier; he was a waist gunner, and every time he killed a Nazi it was so close he could look him in the eyes and see the cockpit fill up with blood.
I was in my "all lives matter" phase of thinking wars and the deaths that happened in them were preventable or avoidable somehow and that everyone had gone along with a horrifying misadventure in faux gallantry.
It turned out it was actually pretty fucking necessary and unavoidable and probably could've and would've been much worse had it not been for some of those boys killing those other boys.
I still hate war and wars and the idea of young kids going off to die in them for some rich old man or another. Always have.
I know it's naive and doesn't reflect human history but I see it as a choice - either groups of humans gather together to create something: a building, art, music, dance, theater, culture, science; or to create mass graves in which to bury each others children.
Although I don't totally agree with your opinion, I respect and appreciate that you were able to articulate it in such a calm and intelligent manner. Have an upvote!
You know that male blacks are the major cause of gun violence while only being 6% of the population? That black men are 14 times more likely than white men to be shot and killed with guns? That Mexicans will be a majority in a couple of decades? If you really think that a white man from the 40's would be OK with this, then you're quite delusional.
TIL some stranger on Reddit called WarGhoul knows my grandfather better than I do because reasons I guess.
I don’t really give a shit about any of this unless ypu have sources, but I’m particularly interested in your Mexican Majority fear. Why’s that got you all hot and bothered?
I really think so yeah. A Mexican invasion is just fine right?
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/13/18934111-census-white-majority-in-us-gone-by-2043?lite
http://time.com/4823524/gun-violence-black-children-study/
Time is downplaying the numbers here just so you know.
Okay, then gimme a source saying it’s downplaying the numbers, cause the source you provided says 10, not 14.
Also, again, why do you care if Mexicans become the majority? Cause I really don’t. And I feel like if Irish became the majority, or Scottish, or Swiss, you’d care a lot less, and I think we both know why, ifyouknowwhatimsayingimsayingyoudberacist.
Go do some research. I chose these sites because any other sites are automatically white supremacist sites, even if they are not. I'm a racist and not ashamed of it.
Haha that's assuming I was being tolerant. You really are dumb.
Edit: Racists like you don't need to be tolerated. Tolerance is only for those that deserve inclusion. You do not deserve inclusion.
Why do you people toss this out whenever you run out of other arguments? The only people who seem to think everyone on the left has made some vapid promise of 100% tolerance towards everyone is the right. I never made any such promise, nor has anyone I know. You saying “the ‘tolerant’ left” just shows how you built strawmen of the left rather than understanding them, not that I’d expect you to understand much of anything at all.
I have plenty of arguments and statistics showing that I am right. And now you actually accusing me of running out of arguments while my reply was to someone who personally attacked me? My comment was directed to someone else, don't make everything about you.
Because for some reason most leftist think it's ok to exclude or use violence against those who think differently. You are the real fascists, anyone who thinks differently deserves to be punched or even worse.
The white, LGBT-jailing, "racist" Russians?
You've got no woke nations in WWII, squirt. Every act of valor was by someone you'd despise nowadays.
Go look to Venezuela for some heroes. Ha ha ha.
>White
I don’t hate white people, I’m literally white lol
>Lgbt-jailing
it was the 1940s so what do you expect
>Racist
stalin was pretty racist to some ethnic groups like tartars, but his brutality doesn’t mean the entire population of the ussr was bad
Do you seriously think this argument is good?
The sub wasn't censored for any of its views. It was banned for repeatedly inciting violence which violates the ToS of Reddit and the mods of the sub refused to moderate.
But I guess you guys can't pass up an opportunity to play victim.
Total BS though. Admins think criticizing a protected minority incites violence. It's just a catch all to ban wrongthink. The mods themselves know inciting violence would get the sub canned and that's the only thing I ever saw them delete.
I wouldn't think a single post would get a sub shutdown unless it was an official announcement from the mods to incite violence. But an actual screencap or archive of that post would be nice.
It wasn't just one single post that was the only reason but was certainly the straw that broke the camels back.
a few days ago there was some discussion on the subreddit where the moderators said that admins were removing some posts on the subreddit for being too violent. They then said they would refuse to comply with the admin's request to take that kind of content down, so they were banned.
you browsed it often enough to notice something stupid like that? Hmmm..
I didn't see that one. You're telling me they openly allowed inciting vioence in violation of amin's direct warning? That sounds too unreasonable to be true and I think you're making up part of it. It's more likely the leftist agenda admins just got pissed and censored wrongthink like they've done a million times before.
Yeah I tend to browse Subs I don't agree with as I actually enjoy hearing other people's opinions on things. The whole mod team was suspended which I can only assume means that they didn't act in a manner they told the admins they would.
lol or they got banned for wrongthink. I browsed it too and never saw any of that. I don't know why you're giving admins the benefit of the doubt. Spez admitted to illegally altering post content for crying out loud. They do whatever they want.
[Subreddit Drama has a post about the "discussion" I was referring to.](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/83tqfz/slapfight_in_runcensorednews_over_wether_jews_or/) But, since it's been banned I don't know how to find the undeleted post. There's quite a few summaries of what was said in the comments though.
there's no summaries at all. It's just pointing out a hyperbole interpretation of a slapfight. Nothing is referencing the inciting of violence or mods ignoring site admins.
Well as I said, I don't know how to do the undelete or whatever it is people do to find the archived versions. I provided you the link to the post in question. Educate yourself if you don't believe me.
> Educate yourself if you don't believe me.
thats not how it works. if you make a claim it needs to be supported. you don't get to say that others should find evidence to back up your seemingly invented claims
Sure man. It's all a conspiracy and I'm getting those big Soros bucks to shill here. Sitting on my yacht in Bali just trying to bring down Reddit from the inside.
> you browsed it often enough to notice something stupid like that? Hmmm..
I didn't realize that mods not taking action against multiple calls to violence was "something stupid"
I can't recall the title or subject of the original post. But the most contentious part of it was two users arguing about which group of people was more undesirable and worthy of murder Muslims or Jews.
Why is that left-wing subs are allowed to call for violence with no repercussions, while right-wing subs get relentlessly shut down for the tiniest things?
Related:
https://archive.li/MxtnV
No, advocating for the interests of white people is not Nazism. If it was, then the founders of America, a country that was created explicitly for whites, would be Nazis. This is physically impossible, as Nazism as an ideology was created in the 1920's and 1930's.
Get a fucking education.
Weird how the founding fathers didn't specify White-Europeans in the Constitution. I'm not even really sure why I'm bothering talking to you with a name like racism is a lie you're obviously fucking retarded
Read more:
>The original United States Naturalization Law of March 26, 1790 (1 Stat. 103) provided the first rules to be followed by the United States in the granting of national citizenship. This law limited naturalization to immigrants who were **free White persons** of good character.
LOL, are you going to cite the Articles of Confederation next?
How are you going to cite the Constitution as a means for you to justify your Euro-White citizenship and then cite a law that has had numerous changes in the development of the country? Are you aware of how changes to laws work? Or do you believe that the US Naturalization Law from 1790 is still applicable today?
>cite a law that has had numerous changes in the development of the country?
What's your point? I showed that the country initially was setup to allow only whites to have citizenship. I never claimed that the law hadn't changed.
>Are you aware of how changes to laws work? Or do you believe that the US Naturalization Law from 1790 is still applicable today?
Gtfo with this passive aggressive bullshit.
>Gtfo with this passive aggressive bullshit.
Getting mad cause your obvious flaws in your beliefs are being exposed?
The Naturalization Law is not part of the Constitution which means it doesn't mean jack shit in today's world. You cited the Constitution and were proven wrong.
>The Naturalization Law is not part of the Constitution which means it doesn't mean jack shit in today's world. You cited the Constitution and were proven wrong.
I never claimed that it was part of the Constitution. I did claim that the founders of America intended for the US to be a white country. George Washington himself was the President during the 1790's, and signed off on the act that made citizenship for whites-only.
Learn reading comprehension man.
>The Founding of America=The Constitution
As in, without the Constitution, America doesn't exist. Maybe familiarize yourself with the transitive properties.
Again, are you aware of how time proceeds? As in, we don't live in the past anymore. There is a thing called the "present" were we reside and laws have changed to reflect our greater understanding of how all people are people regardless of the melanin content in their skin.
Such a shame the Constitution has that whole "All Men are Created Equal" bit in it.
No, just in the 1790 citizenship requirements. Codified in US immigration law up until 1965 when history was rewritten by the Jews that transformed America into a multicultural land of immigrants from it's inception.
Orwell is shaking his head, "I told you so".
Not in their homelands, no. Do you get upset when Jews push for Jewish control in Israel? Do you screech when China is pro-Chinese? I bet you cheer the seizing of White farms in Africa.
Did you ever visit the sub? I’m not saying it should have been banned but the Nazi label fits. It wasn’t out of the ordinary to see tripe parentheses being used
I mean I can appreciate trying to shed light on stories that aren’t covered but when you say they aren’t getting more attention because of a Jewish conspiracy you sound like a Nazi.
Where did I say it was illegal?
There’s a difference between pointing out someone is a Jew and saying they are do something because they are a Jew. Blaming stuff on a Jewish conspiracy is like Nazism 101.
And the triple parentheses was started by Neo-Nazis so if you use it you shouldn’t be surprised people start thinking you are a Nazi.
Like, I’m not trying to devalue the word but would you all a white nationalist who believes most of the worlds problems are caused by Jews?
> Hmm, maybe don't be a nazi?
How the FUCK can you people go through life shrieking that everyone with whom you disagree is a Nazi. Don't you see that you're a fucking caricature?
When did projection become the only tool in the Leftist's kit? All this, "ooh you're a triggered snowflake in a safe space!" bullshit. It's the equivalent of a schoolkid saying "I'm rubber and you're glue."
Grow the fuck up, at least TRY to be a man, and stop trying to silence others simply because you're too stupid to have a defensible thought in your head.
No, I'm defending the admins decision to remove a cancerous sub that promoted violence as a solution. if Reddit was censoring just opinion, this place wouldn't exist.
Hate is an opinion. Reddit isn't merely censoring calls to violence (which are *exceedingly* rare in my long experience). Reddit admins and mods routinely delete REAMS of opinions, every day, which are deemed 'offensive' along arbitrary and shifting lines. With no explanation. They simply get deleted.
It's an entirely False Dilemma to say that Reddit wouldn't exist if they censored opinions. They do so thousands of times every day.
OH HEY, THE POST IS UNLOCKED! How long you been waiting to send that salient point that absolutely no one else has brought up?
Guess the mods got done censoring this post in r/RedditCensors
>Why is that left-wing subs are allowed to call for violence with no repercussions, while right-wing subs get relentlessly shut down for the tiniest things?
You're retarded as hell.
Moderators in left-wing subs remove comments which call for violence when it's brought to their attention or Admins call them out on it, same reason why /r/the_donald, /r/metacanada, and a buttload of other racist shitholes are still standing because the Moderators in those communties remove comments which call for the death of people when it's brought to their attention.
They don't tell Admins to piss off like how /r/uncensorednews Mods did. I have zero sympathy for /r/uncensorednews or the Moderators for deciding to not follow the rules.
Yeah, so let's just brigade all the commie shit and see where that leads us, nothing like shadowbans and blog-posts from the cucks running this shitshow.
Srs, srd, fuckthealtright, you know, the regular leftist subreddits regurgitating the same commie shit over and over while brigading any- and everything, then falling behind "no we don't it's not like that" when called out for it. Can't even tell people to go fuck themselves in those subreddits without getting banned, very agenda driven drivel.
That's not proof.
As for them brigading, proof?
If you want to blame anyone about the abuse of the ban privileges by mods, look no further than T_D. There extreme curating is what has lead to imitated modding practices throughout Reddit.
Nah, too much effort to actually do anything that would make an impactful change. just enough time to come here and bitch and whine about it; just like your life.
Are you the original person I made the NEETS comment to and you forgot to switch accounts? Or just some random person popping into a conversation to throw in their 2 cents about a subject you don't care about?
Why are you engaging in this conversation? You've already said you don't care about reporting violent speech, I was saying unemployed NEETS have plenty of time to do so if they choose compared to ol' squirell who has a job and contributes to society.
You chimed in as an unemployed NEET, added nothing to the topic of reporting violent speech to the admins, and are just being obtuse for the sake of being obtuse now?
You said it was my job to get other's censored. I disagreed.
Oh and I bet you really contribute to society. Call me when you were on the vanguard on protecting the world against nuclear war.
LOL. all you are missing is the creepy asterisks their boyo.
Sorry you have such a shit personality or are so grotesque physically(hey, maybe your super unlucky and are both) that you've resorted to MGTOW.
Do us all a favor and trade places with a starving person in in Venezuela, they’re probably better company and would appreciate it here more than you do you self-hating little twat.
Lol my response to you involved more thought and substance than “go blow a donkey”. Didn’t think I was arguing with a 5th grader, now I feel bad. Run along.
oh you mean totally unlike their counterpart, /r/politics? at least T_D doesn't pretend to be neutral and wasn't made for discussion on both sides. politics board is just a libtard circlejerk where they honestly believe EVERY SINGLE rumor or piece of news on trump if it paints him in a negative light, being absolutely sure he's going to be arrested any day now. they HOPE its all true because its preferable than admitting they lost fair and square and are being too childish to let it go.
Jesus Christ. Is that what you tell yourself in the mirror?
Tell me about how T_D isn’t a cesspool:
http://archive.is/QX5yY
[Let’s assasinate Mueller](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fuckthealtright/comments/7kak1f/t_d_users_openly_discussing_assassination_of/)
And someone was kind enough to compile a [list](https://np.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/7a4bjo/time_for_my_quarterly_inquisition_reddit_ceo_here/dp70uoc/?sh=8d0c16c7&st=J9R95QZC).
So take your shit somewhere else. Oh, how does that Seth Rich taste? A little like Comet Ping Pong?
Lol tell us more about how the Russian government hacked the election by hacking your sides politicians and making them do fucked up shit just so they could send the proof to the public.
Talks about "conspiracy filled echo chambers", but yet posts on the politics sub.
That's the same as how you guys try to paint Trump supporters as intolerant and racist, when the anti Trump weirdos themselves are way worse. Guess self reflection isn't really an option when you spend your whole life trying to pin your failures on something other than yourself.
You're right. It's not even close. The politics sub is way worse. It's supposed to be an unbiased place to discuss politics but instead has become a hate filled tin foil hat dispensary.
So wait, you paragons of virtuous intellect got smoked in 2016 by mouth breathing knuckledraggers?
The world you paint for yourself is fucking ridiculous. You got owned by people who see what your side has to offer and rejected it.
Me and some other people are working on /r/FreeReport
No posts yet, and really no community either, but we're working our way to that and it would be helpful if others posted too. The goal is to try to take a similar approach to /r/uncensorednews, but without running it to the ground.
It was banned for posting content that incited violence? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???
When every left wing sub (AKA 98% of reddit) is calling to bash-the-fas, attacking Trump and Trump supporters, when OGFT openly doxxes people... and you ban the community that just doesn't lie about the news???
And look at the awesome brigade this thread is under, which is also disallowed by global rules here, yet nothing will be done about it just as well.
EDIT: Seems like voting has turned the tide and corrected the initial brigade. Perhaps an effect of hitting /r/all?
Yeah, I'm sure the guy who was murdered by corporate interests because he believed scientific information and education should be available to all people and not locked behind pay walls would have gladly supported a bunch of basement dwelling incels who blame their shitty lives on others and not their own shortcomings.
He valued a platform for free speech above all else. Uncensored news only posted what news and world news refused to in the interest of full disclosure but limp wristed little children like yourself couldn’t act like adults about it. You and your actual fascist buddies are fucking pathetic.
No, he valued freedom of information. There is quite a difference between freedom of information and freedom of speech.
Yes, uncensored news posted news that wasn't typically allowed to remain in other subs. The problem is the user's and comments which were curated and up voted by the users and moderators of that sub which frequently devolved into incitement of violence which violates ToS.
"Fragility" really describes this new breed of thin-skinned Leftist fuckwit.
And Reddit encourages these entitled fuckers, and teaches them that if they scream loud enough, they can silence those with whom they disagree without any need for debate. Fuck EVERYTHING about Reddit, and its complicity in helping create a generation of shitheels.
...that would be to accept this unwarranted attempt at silencing us. You're not dumb enough to think we'd just tuck tail and flee the platform, are you?
Trump has the liberal democrats living in the doghouse, and this event is just one way they are retaliating.
"Fragile entitled leftists" is the theme for 2017 to 2018. This is a retaliation from that hivemind feeling powerless and trying to score some little victories by silencing some free-speech areas. In their defense, the communities banned were flying off the rails. The trouble is the targeting strategy, there's a lot of garbage on reddit, and the stuff left untouched is still just as bad.
By removing unpopular groups from popular forums, such as Reddit, you are only forcing them to create new, more isolated communities. With them being separated from the marketplace of ideas, their views are only going to get more radicalized. We are not for free speech because we are racist, but rather because it is the best way to counter racism.
Yes, but they were within Reddit's larger discourse. The people who consumed and visited their content also visited other subredits, where their views could be questioned and refined. Their content also had a reputation, a reputation that doesn't immediately follow if they switch sites. If they leave the platform there will be no one to check their beliefs.
Also, two wrongs don't make a right.
Yet in their "minds", they are convinced that it's T_D converting people to racism by offering tasty cookies or something. No way is it their pushing anyone who isn't a communist or Muslim to the fringes where their paragons of virtue send them hate messages and death threats.
Jesus what a fucking piece of shit the left can be.
The global admins are willing to take even an ironic 'gtk;rwn' as an excuse to nix a sub they don't like. There's always those types in subs that have hundreds of thousands of subscribers. When all their messages and accounts are censored everywhere else on reddit, where are they going to go? It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that they ended up on /r/uncensorednews in larger numbers than other subs. I think we've all seen enough 'rules for thee, but not for me' behavior from the admin team /u/spez.
Alternatives: RedditCensors, conspiracy, censorship, milliondollarextreme, TIL_Uncensored, FullNEWS, censorednews, voat.co/v/uncensorednews
You can't have the whole world Agamemnon, it's too big, even for you.
subreddit nuking is setting a precedent, they're willing to censor and have a big celebratory liberal democrat following, banning is a two edged sword though, so wherever we go and congregate will get taken-down. So it'll have to be somewhere you're ok with damaging, one reinforcing leftist liberal democrat ideologies; the Californian ideologies from reddit leading that charge.
t_d overlaps some of the ideology of uncensorednews, liberal democrats are calling for the_donald to be banned next for being toxic and racist, basically all the hate CNN was pushing toward Trump in his run for presidency.
I wonder if I'll ever see a day when the kafka-esque strategies that are currently being employed by the current site administration piss off enough of their user base that subs are being created daily just to shit on the site and the brigade just never ends. If that happens, Steve Huffman and his coterie of hippy dippy dykes down there in San Fran will either be forced to walk the draconian thought policing back or nuke the platform.
The recent losses on the ISP net neutrality front are apparently spreading to other areas. The progression of states that leads to what you're saying take many years to play out. It'll take a lot more than a handful of nuked subs that had a lot of questionable content to lead the whole site to mutiny. They timed this and suppressed things so that the great majority of reddit users will be completely unaware of what happened until after it's blown over. So no, reddit has a lot of life left in it before it hits "2006 peak digg".
Personally I'm thinking that a permanent IP based shadowban would be what the doctor ordered, I waste too much time giving my best to strangers on this site already.
I'm sure you're right. It seems that nobody on the left is prepared to blame the site admins for this, so this will continue to devolve into the usual - the moderate majority of the sub's userbase trying to prove that they're not all white supremacists and the majority of the leftist reddit userbase screaming "NAZI NAZI NAZI" back at them. The site admins won't absorb any blame from most of their core userbase.
I have no intention to run it as a klan rally, only to provide what the name suggests.
An uncensored subreddit for news to the extent reddit will allow.
I have no desire to deprive those I disagree with of a voice.
I honestly believe that good natured people outnumber those with evil hearts and that censorship is not the answer to hate.
Only love and understanding can conquer hate.
I would not censor anything that reddit does not require of me.
Racists will be racist irregardless of whether I hide their opinions from view or not.
The only way to change their ways is through persuasion and dialog, suppression and censorship only entrenches people into their own views with the added vigor of martyrdom and victimhood.
There were some very, very racist and violent things posted in there. surprised that sub lasted for so long. Though, a lot of the very hateful stuff (racism ran rampant with N word being thrown around like rice at a wedding) seemed to be from accounts who wanted to get that sub banned.. not organic subscribers.
The admins should've policed that sub better.
You're not helping the image of that sub.
I knew fake accounts were spamming that sub for a while now. I used to sub there to get the stories that reddit was afraid to allow to be posted.
> Though, a lot of the very hateful stuff (racism ran rampant with N word being thrown around like rice at a wedding) seemed to be from accounts who wanted to get that sub banned.. not organic subscribers.
This is wishful thinking and ultimately counterproductive
And easy to prove or disprove by looking at the posting histories of the active members.
But go ahead, blame someone else for your sub being a cesspool of racist asshats. Accountability is just for "libruls" right?
Fucking Nazis.
IT's true though. Most people who used the N word were obviously trolls who exclusively posted in that sub, and said the N word in every single post as well as incited violence.
One time one of their mods banned me and messaged me and called me a faggot because I said that an article posted there was unreliable because it was from a far right website and unreported from other sources.
That's pretty much how all the subreddits going against the hivemind's agenda gets banned-- a bunch of gaslighters go in doing stuff like that, and it gets shuts down
We are all well aware of the agenda here.
However, you ever get into a thread early and see the truths? Before the bots and shill accounts show up, I mean.
I dont think the amount of liberal crybabies here is nearly as big as the agenda makes it look like.
Anything violent came from troll accounts that only posted in uncensorednews and said the N-word in every post. It was incredibly obvious. I'm pretty sure the mods did delete things that were actually inciting violence though because they knew it was the fasted way to get the sub shutdown.
We need less top level policing and more subreddit level policing. Don't make the shitty reddit admins start sticking their fingers in more places than they need to be.
I visited this sub to find information on Europe and their mass migration issues that you wouldn't find anywhere else on this site. The comment section was typically pretty bad when I did bother to read any of them, but I don't believe in any type of censorship. The upvote/downvote system is the foundation for which made this site appealing to begin with, now it's filled with overzealous moderation and censorship. The water is coming to a boil and the frog doesn't seem to even mind.
When the 'line' between heated opinion and "hate crimes" is decided arbitrarily by a legion of neckbearded 20-something liberals, the line will keep moving until all wrongthink is outlawed.
Reddit only cares about their advertisers, but the mods have been given the delusion that they're locked in a "noble struggle against Nazis."
Their only struggle is with reality, which won't hit them until they leave home.
Damn I was a regular and I don't think I saw anything particularly nasty in the comments. I typically only read the first 10 or so top comment chains but still. Very surprising.
Two things.
1: Why are we censoring comments in this very thread?
2: I don't know how the sub grew, but I remember it was started after /r/news kept suppressing the truth about the Orlando Pulse shooting and the Nice/Bataclan attacks during election season.
I suspect that it grew and challenged the narrative too much. It could not be tolerated.
Reddit doesn't support free speech or the free exchange of different ideas. They tow the leftist line and will ban anybody and anything that they don't agree with.
Fuck Reddit
oh, thats a shame. some interesting stuff from there would pop up on my home page every so often, never checked out the sub, had no idea it was pushing content that would be worth banning the sub for.
I personally found nothing wrong with most of what was posted there, what was toxic as hell were the comments, like Jesus Christ, it was filled with anti Dem, ant Jew, anti race, just so much far far right word salad
It's been a long-standing, openly declared intention of the Left to "shut down and silence" any discussion, debate or forum which they find objectionable. We're talking about scumbag college kids who know FUCK ALL about the world, who are actively trying to silence free speech wherever their feelings get hurt.
And make no mistake, reddit has actually become an important platform for speech, political or otherwise, and reddit's totalitarian tactics to sanitize this site for advertisers will have a PROFOUND impact on public discourse.
Shame on fucking reddit.
Wow that is shitty. Who the heck thinks censoring things they dislike will get rid of it. If anything this action is only bringing more attention to the problem
Another way to look at it is that he was a zealot and a cunt, who couldn't reel his shit in and not act like a fucking animal. He was only interested in free speech to the degree to which it agreed with him that "blacks and women shouldn't be allowed to vote." (Yeah, the shithead actually said that.) He banned tons of people for "being cucks." Fuck that guy.
I knew it would only be a matter of time before he gave reddit enough rope to hang the sub. If someone less of a total fucking zealot had started the sub, it might still be around. But let's not pretend he's an innocent victim. The guy was a pile.
Sad to here but not unexpected. With someone or maybe even a MOD frequently posting from a place called "stuff black people hate". And a couple of other actual trash sites. Truly the policing there wasn't good.
I'm sure this similar sub won't get deleted since it explicitly addresses the violence/threats aspect they were banned for /s
/r/uncensoredbutnothreat/
I certainly don't consider myself right wing, though I gave up on the left right dichotomy in describing my own views years ago. I'm just extremely disturbed by this growing acceptance of censoring the "wrong" ideas. Even ideas I despise, whether right, left or anything else, I would never attempt to deny a person from expressing them. I can understand drawing the line at incitement to violence (though claiming that happened in the instance of uncensorednews is a spurious claim.) I have significant experience learning constitutional law from professors on both sides of the spectrum and despite their personal ideologies, I was always impressed with their refusal to silence unpopular opinions. The "free speech/first amendment," also framed as a state vs private actor distinction seems to be popping up more frequently on reddit over the past yr. Suddenly people that couldn't point you to the first amendment seem to think they're constitutional law scholars after reading this distinction in a comment thread and 10 min on wikipedia. Reddit obviously can do whatever they want as a private company, but that doesn't mean shouldn't voice their disapproval. The ironic thing is most of the people in favor of the censorship are the same ones outraged when a bakery refuses to bake a cake for a wedding (which I'm not weighing on on substantively, just pointing out the hypocrisy). I make a point to keep my views as consistent as possible and when I discover a flaw with them, attempt to become informed enough to rectify any dissonance. The best way to do this is to hear all types of ideas, even the offensive or hateful ones. That's the deal with free speech, the shitty ideas get a chance to be heard like any other. Logic and reason dictate which ideas grow and spread and rise above the shitty ones.
Sorry to rant, but I obviously have strong opinions on the matter, and due to my background and actually in a position to take an informed position. It's terrifying that over 50% of undergrads these days think it's ok to silence "bad" ideas/speech, which includes nearly a majority of conservatives. It's mind boggling that people can't see the slippery slope with censoring speech/content based on viewpoint. The 1st amendment and SCOTUS have always taken this approach because historically our country could see the danger and opportunity for abuse of only censoring "bad" speech. By the time it's their own speech being censored it will be too late, which should be common knowledge since their are endless examples of classic literature, fables/folktales, failed governments/ideologies, and even court rulings that everyone has been exposed to that should make the dangers obvious. Suddenly words in themselves are a violent end, which is not in line with reality.
Thread closed until a new cleanup of "fuck you Reddit" or "I hate any sub that doesn't agree with my bias, fuck you for liking / hating it" type comments are cleared.
I did, only because it and the child comments weren't a discussion, it flaired into inflammatory remarks against each other.
Tossing between my work and modding a sub isn't too easy, it's cleaner to cut the snake at the head.
Anything that didn't add a sense of purpose or an open discussion has and will be culled.
I've said this numerous times before on here, as long as your comment provokes discussion and not just there to incite anger and hostility, I don't care what side of the fence you sit on.
I can't speak for all mods on here, although as long as the sub rules are met and we can have open discussion, the thread and any decent post will remain.
~~You're alright in my book Mr. Mod.~~
Actually, after looking over the comments and seeing what you selectively chose to leave, you can fuck right off. Any OP that was in support of the admins and their actions was removed and now all that is left is a bunch of people denying the events that caused uncensorednews to get banned or saying that it was essentially "crisis actors" brigading the sub with violent rhetoric and not its organic users.
This place will be gone soon as well.
Believe it or not, there is actually some decent discussion in here.. in the midst of the garbage.
Deleting this thread won't do any good for anyone.
Even some of the comments that are extreme to one side or the other have got a decent discussion under them, they will remain.. one of this subs traits are that we "don't care about your feelings".. in saying that, I do care when I see a comment such as "kill yourself".
It's a damn shame this happened. Censorship in any form should be avoided, even (or, perhaps, especially) in cases involving the kinds of speech we disagree with the most. Remember the Streisand Effect! Censoring bad ideas gives them victim cred and the benefit of a good controversy. It's far more effective (and fair) to let the bad ideas expose themselves publicly so they may be rejected in favor of better ones.
It’s not reddit, it’s the advertisers.
Advertisers don’t want their products associated with news and stories they don’t like.
If reddit had income that did not involve advertisers, it’s very possible that most subs that were banned would still be here today.
RIP!!
I'm not surprised, mods of uncensorednews made a bad move by releasing what the admins deleted. The head admin also made generally bad decisions and wasn't subtle at all later on in the subreddits life.
The Left has become synonymous with censorship, so one really can't be in favor of free speech without hating the Left. The Left is a cancer, in large part because they want to stifle and censor any ideas they don't like. These are VILE people, diametrically opposed to the fundamental principles of our democracy.
Banning 💰 them 💰 probably 💰 won't 💰 accomplish 💰 what 💰 you 💰 want. 💰 However, 💰 letting 💰 them 💰 fall 💰 apart 💰 from 💰 their 💰 own 💰 dysfunction 💰 probably 💰 will. 💰 Their 💰 engagement 💰 is 💰 shrinking 💰 over 💰 time, 💰 and 💰 that's 💰 much 💰 more 💰 powerful 💰 than 💰 shutting 💰 them 💰 down 💰 outright. 💰
As someone who visited both regularly you're wrong. Uncensored news used to be a great sub with real uncensored news. Suddenly it was overrun by racist comments. It was something that happened very fast. Those of us who dared to say something were banned. There were quite a few of us who noticed. The Donald doesn't have that kind of talk. I've never even seen an n word on the Donald...
It's all good until your beliefs become the censored trash. For one thing, if they are truly extremist views (and I did see some of those over there), all this does is push them further away from more moderate opinions that might sway them, into even more radical opinions.
In America, ideas are supposed to be freely debated. Ideas can be challenged through discourse if necessary. It's one of the things that keeps Society healthy . If you make it so the people have to hide in the shadows with their opinions, especially if they are unpopular opinions, you lessen the chance that those people will ever come around by being challenged by other viewpoints. Ultimately, If you just go and ban everything that you don't like, then it's almost assured that some day people will turn on you, and your thoughts will be the wrong ones.
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
> For one thing, if they are truly extremist views
They were.
> all this does is push them further away from more moderate opinions that might sway them, into even more radical opinions.
Screw them. Take their platform and let them build their own shit hole racist platform.
>
>"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist.
>Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
>Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.
Gross, we're talking about giving a platform to actual nazis.
A "big fan" is pretty far fetched.
Are you a big fan of how /r/politics is going?
You've probably skimmed over my post history by this time, I am a reasonable concerned german guy who's really fed up with how things are going in our country, and how things are beeing painted.
/r/politics generally has moderators that aren't Nazis. I gotta give them that. They certainly aren't the most transparent or consistent it must be said, but neither are the /r/news mods, and really very few subreddits are well-moderated. And honestly I don't really care enough to go through your post history (plus I wouldn't be able to see stuff from banned subs anyway).
To sum it up, I am not a nazi, since I am german, I have been teached since I am young, what makes one, and what doesnt.
A nazi then isnt what a nazi is now.
Things have changed hard.
The specter of a resurgence in Nazism has been created mostly out of thin air, by politically disenfranchised American liberals who feel like they must delegitimize and dehumanize their political opponents who beat them last election.
It makes them feel better to call anyone who disagrees with them a monster. Because that's how fragile, childish, and bereft of ideas they truly are.
That's really what all this is about. Confident people, secure in their beliefs, have thick enough skin to withstand even the worst opinions of others. We never try to silence others to make ourselves feel better. Free speech is intended to protect the worst speech. Benign speech needs no protection.
And I know reddit is a private company, but that doesn't mean they should be allowed to comfortably stand in opposition to free speech. It's un-American at the very least. They're not even trying to protect people's feelings; they're trying to protect their advertising revenue streams, which is even worse.
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