Holy brigade, Batman.
Peterson's correct in that one's life is up to them and the choices they make.
The left has been indoctrinated to believe that anyone who's not white + male can't be more than a fry cook and that it's white mens' fault. So don't "clean your room", eg. study, learn and improve yourself (the things it would take to be more than a fry cook) - just be hateful and blame white men. The torch & pitchfork witch-hunt mentality is much easier than growing and building one's self.
It's clear enough to see why they're so rabid about Dr. P. They're like Christians talking about Richard Dawkins lol.
>It's clear enough to see why they're so rabid about Dr. P. They're like Christians talking about Richard Dawkins lol.
It's funny because in 2011 atheism drove me away form the religious authoritarian right, and now the same style of arguments are being used by the cultural authoritarian left.
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Yessssss?
Edit: OH! It's a raid! Surely the admins will do something about the obvious brigading going on. Oh wait, no, they don't really care...
I mean it's obvious brigading but that's just another hurdle we face in the fight against censorship. It's not about explaining why we're wrong, it's about silencing. All they're doing is proving the point of the subreddit.
Yea I'd ask for a modding to police this place, but they're just going to suspend me eventually too. (I've already been temped for raising awareness on upvote purchasing, and if we follow the precedent set by the ban of the last non-zionist head mod of r/the_donald they can basically ban you at will once you've got a temp) Do you know why they banned tsurupettan and filderebene?
It's not like people are saying "Marc Lepine was onto something",it's called being unbias.Treating Peterson as if he was trying to attempt another Beer Hall Putsch is unfair as hell.
The moderators there want to be moderators. But, they really don't want to do much work. Peterson topics cause a lot of brigading from outside of r/canada, rule breaking posts, etc.
I personally think that the better Peterson topics should remain, as issues surrounding him are a real test of free speech generally, and is also very relevant to what's happening in our academic institutions.
I don't think that any of the mods like Peterson topics, but it's not surprising that this particular mod is giving the post the boot.
> I personally think that the better Peterson topics should remain
As a mod myself (a very tiny subreddit), I do have to pose the obvious question: by what metric should the filtering occur? Without a concrete definition that can handle many to most situations, a blanket action must be chosen to avoid charges of inconsistency.
With that said, despite being a traditional North American Liberal (*not* a far-leftist!!), I do agree that Peterson should be allowed. I disagree with his religiosity, and some of his conclusions, but he has the academic credentials to speak with at least some authority on the subjects he pontificates on. Certainly more than some whose articles we find here.
>as issues surrounding him are a real test of free speech generally, and is also very relevant to what's happening in our academic institutions.
*Bingo*.
In the end, we must see this for exactly what it is: the banning from a Canadian subreddit, of a Canadian academic talking about a Canadian subject, all because that subreddit finds his views/conclusions to be inconvenient. And that is moral cowardice at its most corrosive.
Hate to break it to you, but you're replying to a karma-farming account.
All their comments are copy/pasted top comments from other threads.
The account you're replying to stole that comment from here:
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This is an account that copy/pastes top comments using the "other discussions" link to farm karma.
He has a background in philosophy?
/dp/080241270X/ref=zg_bs_books_14/132-2588884-3113423?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=7CRDWNVYQAKX3K74FVB7
Is that dude also an intellectual?
Jordan Peterson has a book that talks about personal philosophy people should apply to their lives. Apparently reaching the top of Amazon books bestseller list isn't enough to placate to you about him being an intellectual.
Your distaste for the man doesn't mean he isn't an intellectual. Slavoj Žižek isn't someone I personally agree with but that doesn't mean he's not a philosopher.
>Jordan Peterson has a book that talks about personal philosophy people should apply to their lives.
So a self-help book? Like The Five Languages of Love?
Can people be more than two things at once?
How does he help people with his books? Is it, oh I don't know, talking about *philosophy* and how it can be applied to better themselves?
>But he doesn't talk about Philosophy.
Have you ever seen anything by him? Your obfuscation and dodging is quite ridiculous. Just because you don't like his philosophy doesn't mean it's not real.
When you see a book at the top of best seller list under "Philosophy" and then go on to claim he doesn't say a word about philosophy, you have to provide something more than "nuh-uh"
Well, Amazon, y'know the people who made an empire based on selling books, disagrees with you.
>Your link including "The Life Changing Magic of Tidying-up"
Literally judging a book by it's cover. That's a great argument there buddy. Please throw some more of that logic at me.
Remember the good ole days of Gamergate? Of /r/shitredditsays vs /r/kotakuinaction? That was the testing grounds. Now that same level of, i don't even know what to call it...(propaganda warfare?) is playing out on a much larger, international stage, with much bigger stakes. It doesn't matter what side you are on, nobody gets to sit on the fence. This is going to continue to escalate. Soon we'll all be eating at restaurants, patronizing stores, and yes, even only just posting in forums, that fit our particular flavor of echo chamber. This is war, nobody fights fair, and nobody wins.
Everyone's crying about 1 guy when there's millions of homeless, mountains of debt, ridiculous drug wars......
And this is what people want choose to worry about.
I fucking hate this world.
funny that this one guy happen to help millions of people with their personal problems so they don't end up: hoemless or with mountains of debt or a bunch of other problems. But for some reason this person that helps gets hated on by a particular group, and people calling out the hate also get hated on as well. Oh yeah and the drug wars you should ask Trudeau about.
That's the only time I give a shit about censorship. There's censorship everywhere. And rightfully so. Hell, if I worked with you and you kept talking about Peterson all day, I'd tell you if you mention him again I'm going to HR to tell them you're harassing me. And I would. Peterson sucks and I have a right not to have to listen to you talk about him at my job.
I admit I barely looked at your link. I'm very familiar with Peterson. He's got quite an act. Nobody worth a damn in the scientific community is puzzling over his nonsense. Except angry young men that don't have science degrees.
I really don't care. Peterson's shit is weak. They're probably contesting things he's written and just have to footnote. Pretend I'm a climate skeptic on Peterson and I don't give a shit that nearly all scientists believe in global warming (I'm not), but just treat me the same as those retards and move on. Peterson is a weak intellectual if we're calling him that and I'm fine with his censorship.
Good day, sir.
You lied to everyone and told them other scientists don't want to deal with Peterson, I can show nearly 6000 citations of Peterson's work, you are definitively wrong, and you have made it clear evidence is of no interest to you. I think its clear to the rest of us at least why you don't get on with Peterson.
Good day sir
> That's the only time I give a shit about censorship.
[Nah](http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/023/021/e02e5ffb5f980cd8262cf7f0ae00a4a9_press-x-to-doubt-memes-memesuper-la-noire-doubt-meme_419-238.jpg), you only care about the censorship of things you like.
I'm fine with shutting down Peterson's brand of faux intellectualism. It appeals to weak minded angry young men. You're absolutely right. But you can't meme very well, and frankly...meme'ing is juvenile.
Good day, sir.
> I'm fine with shutting down Peterson's brand of faux intellectualism.
And there it is, you only give a shit about censorship when it's about shit you like. I don't even believe you'd give a shit if the gov't of Canada banned him from speaking, just empty platitudes from you because you know you can't be *that* transparent about your totalitarian ideology.
Here, I'll let you get the last word in since you seem desperate to have it. Remember, you win the argument if you're the last one to speak! Go for it lil' buddy
>That's the only time I give a shit about censorship.
Then why are you in this subreddit which is exclusively focused on censorship on a private platform, if not specifically to stir the shit?
Hey, if it gets lunatics like you away from censoring everything I welcome the downvotes.
It's almost as if you can disagree with wanting to BAN their position.
"most famous intellectual"?
That's hilarious. Outside of a few internet virgins who won't shut up about their little personality cult, no one has ever heard of Jordan Peterson or gives a shit.
I don't know in what bubble you have been living in but Jordan Peterson is insanely popular. Not only in America and Canada but also in Europe. Even my mom that pays minimal attention to the news knows who he is.
> Jordan Peterson is insanely popular.
Saying it doesn't make it so. Anecdotal evidence is only evidence of an anecdote. Jordan Peterson didn't teach you that in Virgin Outrage 101?
>Anecdotal evidence is only evidence of an anecdote
Compared to your empirical evidence? Of him being a best selling Amazon book seller?
>few internet virgins
>Jordan Peterson didn't teach you that in Virgin Outrage 101
You seem very focused on virgins, which is extremely weird since his work does not have anything to do with sex. Is that everything that goes on in your head, seems like you are trying to project your ineptitude onto others.
> book seller?
Do you mean author?
> You seem very focused on virgins...
Aren't we discussing the Jordan Peterson fan base?
> project your ineptitude
Oh my! Did little Jordan Dipshit teach you that retort. A- for effort.
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