Why the fuck are /r/politics mods allowed to quietly delete anything they disagree with?

258    03 Jul 2018 10:44 by u/Basketball-American

As I'm sure you all know, the mods over at /r/politics routinely delete comments they don't like. Not rule-breaking comments, just comments that they disagree with. There's mountains of evidence that this happens every hour of every day, but my question is -- how does reddit allow random 20-somethings to insert themselves into political conversations on one of today's most important platforms for speech? I know I'm preaching to the choir, but this is really very serious. /r/politics is a liberal circlejerk not because conservatives don't go there, but because liberal fuckwit mods quietly delete those comments. And most people have no idea. At the very least, reddit admins need to insist that mods follow SOME KIND OF FUCKING GUIDELINES, show cause for deleting comments, and *notify the comment's author that it has been deleted and why*. As it is, they do whatever the fuck they want, and the ramifications are, as you all know, quite significant. Fuck everything about reddit. It's a corrupt, liberal fucking cesspool.

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131 u/Anonymocoso 03 Jul 2018 12:42
Reddit.com is based in the People's Republic of San Francisco.
-16 u/fuzzydunlots 04 Jul 2018 08:11
And your account is one of those towns where old statues shouldn't be up no more.
-1 u/gabrieltjones † * 04 Jul 2018 16:53
You know? These idiots crying What other countries display the statues and flags of the losers? We'll never forget that the south got its ass kicked. We'll never forget how inept the southern generals were in the end. We'll never forget the traitors were quelled and were made to take up plows again. As the winners of the Civil War we dictate the terms and your dumb ass statues of traitors and all other tributes to traitors are forfeit, get the fuck over it "THE SOUTH LOST" These snowflakes want to remember the glorious failures of the South. Team north = winners
7 u/fuzzydunlots 04 Jul 2018 16:54
r/insanepeoplefacebook we have an intruder.
3 u/Anonymocoso 04 Jul 2018 19:19
I'm in a place that used to have a Reddit office. No Loser statues. Reddit closed the office because they were afraid they might hire a Republican by mistake.
0 u/fuzzydunlots † 04 Jul 2018 19:20
Reddit never had an office in your parents garage.
99 u/asimov_positronic 03 Jul 2018 13:20
Because Reddit is bought & paid for
32 u/mark-five 04 Jul 2018 00:11
They've preferred the term *monetized* since the moment the sale was final. And to answer truthfully to OP, it's because they're employed for the purpose of maintaining a highly curated echo chamber.
7 u/totallynotahooman 04 Jul 2018 14:13
It's to give people a sense of pride and accomplishment
2 u/gabrieltjones 04 Jul 2018 16:44
So is the whole internet, now.
1 u/Starbound_Chicken 10 Mar 2023 01:04
And people are petty as fuck and will delete anything they disagree with if it suits them or makes them feel better.
68 u/FilthyKataMain 03 Jul 2018 13:01
Probably because 90% of reddit mods are leftist shills who hate everything not in their echo chamber
44 u/Terminal-Psychosis 03 Jul 2018 20:30
the admins have used their darling SRS powermod cabal to do their dirtywork for YEARS. Only recently, after to Pou debacle, did they start sticking their hands in the shit themselves. Straight up quarantining and banning subs they do not find financially or politically acceptable. All the while, cesspools of ShareBlue propaganda like /politics are given free reign. They constitently burn smaller subs by brigading a thread to the front page, to get around the admin's site-wide filters. The admins are fully aware and complaicent. As well as allowing sooo many corporate shills. Blatant advertising galore. And of course, there is the enormous rabid rad-fem faction. This cancer is seen on the vast majority of large subs, especially the defaults. All of the above has been going on for a LONG time. /politics in specific completely changed when Correct the Record (now Shareblue) got a 6 million dollar budget boost. Politics went from a relatively neutral / Bernie / Hillary debate, and litterally overnight, turned into the rabid anti-Trump cesspool of propaganda it is today. /news /worldnews.. so many others are basically owned and operated by Shareblue. With full admin cooperation. :(
11 u/Basketball-American [OP] 03 Jul 2018 21:47
I think you're completely correct. Question is, what can we do about it? At the risk of sounding hyperbolic, this really feels like ideological *war*. Exposure, I think, is key. I think if we made more 1st Amendment advocates aware of what goes on in this cesspool, it might put some pressure on reddit to at least address the issue. Leftists are into public shaming, so let's follow suit. I'd love to see Ben Shapiro or Jordan Peterson take this on with the urgency it calls for. Hell, even Bill Maher would find this odious and indefensible. Despite this crazy surge in toxic Leftists who want to abolish free speech, the vast majority of Americans regard it as sacrosanct. And by the same token, the vast majority of conservatives are unaware that a major ideological battle is being lost due to Leftist shenanigans.
-2 u/gabrieltjones 04 Jul 2018 17:02
The right out media's the left 100 to 1.
29 u/Porphyrogennetos 03 Jul 2018 11:39
Politics is owned by some arm of the DNC
12 u/mark-five 04 Jul 2018 00:15
Shareblue, it's not really an official arm of the political party it's more of a propaganda advertising firm.
27 u/Dragofireheart 03 Jul 2018 14:30
Because /u/spez is a cuck.
24 u/DarkPatriarchy 03 Jul 2018 10:57
It's particularly bad in the IAMA's they host (which are always leftist) you wont see any questions critical of the guest
7 u/Basketball-American [OP] † 03 Jul 2018 11:07
I think reddit's entire track record of censorship is absolutely shameful, but I think the suppression of political speech is particularly egregious, and should set off alarm bells for everyone. Back in the days when radio was a major political influencer, a law was passed to guarantee "equal air time" to both democrats and republicans. It made sense, so as to prevent either side from gaining an unfair advantage through simple saturation of the airwaves. But that's EXACTLY what we have going on here. And not because of happenstance, but because of the *intentional machinations* of random "college kid mods." Just as reddit has special rules for subs once they hit /r/all, America needs to realize that reddit is a major platform for social discourse in this nation, and to allow partisan Leftist college kids to **sneakily** influence that, is not something that can be defended by pointing out that Reddit is a private company. This is having a chilling effect on discourse, and ratcheting up the hostility on all sides. But like all liberals, I'm sure reddit's management thinks, "but it's okay when we do it."
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0 u/gabrieltjones 04 Jul 2018 17:04
You believe reddit is that big and influential? Now you are in toral delusional land and I now realize that you are a troll account (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
24 u/Nergaal 03 Jul 2018 13:55
The current mods might not even be "bad" anymore. They did this a long time ago, aroudn the election, and all who remained after that "curation" are people who downvote you to oblivion. Only right-wing comments there that get upvoted are those linked from other places which bring some support for that specific comment. But otherwise, any centrist discussion getsburried in a sea of communist opinions.
21 u/[deleted] 03 Jul 2018 18:48
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20 u/Canadian_Infidel 03 Jul 2018 16:57
>How does reddit allow random 20-somethings to insert themselves into political conversations on one of today's most important platforms for speech? They don't "allow" it. They perpetrate it. They control who the mods are and hide behind them. That way reddit(tm) isn't doing it, it's "the mods".
15 u/TruthSemen 03 Jul 2018 10:55
What's particularly galling is that these same fuckers spend their lives shrieking about cops and government and corruption. But give them *the tiniest* taste of power, and they *immediately* become Stalin. Liberals aren't merely the pathetic soyboys they portray themselves to be. They are completely hypocritical, irrational, and fundamentally dangerous. Like all Leftists before them, they feel the ends justify any means necessary.
-4 u/satosaison † 03 Jul 2018 11:49
Oh no, a mod allegedly removed a post (no evidence provided). They are 100% equal to Stalin, who murdered literally tens of millions of his own citizens.
15 u/apbadogs 03 Jul 2018 11:15
Your first mistake is going to the cesspool that is /r/politics.
12 u/TheMassivePassive 03 Jul 2018 12:30
I don't even bother trying to redpill there anymore. It's literally only lefties jerking each other off over Donald. Only reading it gives you brain damage.
7 u/FunkyTown313 † 03 Jul 2018 11:04
>There’s mountains of evidence... Provides no evidence.
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12 u/KloppIsTheBeat 03 Jul 2018 11:19
Or, you could simply provide some of that mountain of evidence rather than attacking the person. If you can’t actually substantiate your point then why should anyone believe you?
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13 u/FunkyTown313 03 Jul 2018 11:20
I'm asking for evidence without making a judgement either way. But I’m going with “you don’t have any” since the first thing that I was greeted with was personal insults. And yes, I’ve thought Bee was funny since her daily show years.
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-3 u/Danger_Bacon † 03 Jul 2018 12:20
Ain't *our* job to cite *your* sources, my man. Burden of proof is on the claimant.
6 u/[deleted] 03 Jul 2018 13:52
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3 u/Basketball-American [OP] 03 Jul 2018 21:34
Happens all the time lately. You should see some of the fruitcakes that brigade cringeanarchy. The lowest form of human is a liberal troll. It's like being doubly retarded.
1 u/[deleted] 08 Jul 2018 05:23
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0 u/ChocPineapple 08 Jul 2018 05:23
Dude you have 8148 karma and have had an account for five years. If you're going to bitch about censoring, stop covering your tracks lmao. You have TWO comments... Yeah lmao 😂😂 yet you're crying about censorship. Jesus, I can imagine since your last comment was about telling people to imagine an old man getting beat on as a woman so they can muster sympathy. What a troll
0 u/[deleted] 08 Jul 2018 06:03
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1 u/ChocPineapple 08 Jul 2018 06:12
That's cool. At least I acknowledge it rather than troll on a website for five years and continuously delete my own comments to cover my tracks. Or u know, misdirect the attention to someone else.
0 u/[deleted] 08 Jul 2018 06:18
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1 u/flah00 11 Jul 2018 01:54
Don't be such a coward
6 u/Dragofireheart 03 Jul 2018 14:31
Don't worry fam, I know you're telling the truth. The evidence is scattered all around. Even if you found it, you'd just get upvotes at best.
2 u/Basketball-American [OP] 03 Jul 2018 21:36
I thought it was quite well-established that Reddit does this. And it is well-established -- we're just seeing a brigade of Leftists who don't like any of this pointed out because the censors are on their side. The quintessential bootlickers.
1 u/Dragofireheart 04 Jul 2018 10:11
Don't worry, they'll "believe you" once the censors decide they're no longer useful idiots and are just idiots.
35 u/LordZar 03 Jul 2018 11:22
Originally he did provide evidence, but the mods have since deleted it.
0 u/btl614 † 03 Jul 2018 11:24
Where is your evidence? Or did the mods delete that too?
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1 u/FunkyTown313 † 03 Jul 2018 11:24
Woah.
5 u/Dark_Ice_Blade_Ninja † 03 Jul 2018 11:25
Reddit **admins** actively destroy those evidence. They don't want to change the status quo as it generates ads and give them money. Pro-tip: it all boils down to money. I suppose younger people like you still live in the fantasy world where people are sincere.
3 u/spoder-man_ 03 Jul 2018 11:25
Although this is for r/WorldNews, I think the subreddit r/WorldNoose makes a good case of representing what this post is trying to convey
9 u/Canadian_Infidel 03 Jul 2018 16:55
You can't be serious.
-5 u/FunkyTown313 03 Jul 2018 17:50
That they provided no evidence?
7 u/lispychicken 03 Jul 2018 21:52
Their echochamber is shrinking every day, they are panicking. Keep in mind that while this isnt a game, they are still losing everywhere it matters.
2 u/Basketball-American [OP] 03 Jul 2018 22:01
I'd like to believe that, but what metrics are you seeing that suggest it? I did recently hear Bill Maher bemoan the fact that Millennials are become more conservative, so that gives me hope, but I don't know where that data is. Pointers?
1 u/BestFriendVenom 06 Jul 2018 18:49
There probably isn't a good place to find hard facts. Surveys aren't the best as it all depends on who you poll. If Fox did one, it would show lots of red, if CNN did one it'd be blue, you get the idea.
5 u/[deleted] † 03 Jul 2018 11:40
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4 u/PyjamaTime † 03 Jul 2018 11:16
Reddit is scraping by on the whiff of what it used to be. It's now Facebook, full of dull and repetitive opinions. Really sad. We need a new reddit that's not censored.
-1 u/KloppIsTheBeat † 03 Jul 2018 11:19
Then leave and go to voat. Literally no one is making you stay on this site.
1 u/--Off-Fleek-- 06 Jul 2018 17:39
It’s hilarious how many people bitch and moan about their hateful rhetoric not being widely accepted by “reddit” yet they continue to stay on the site, constantly posting.
3 u/[deleted] 03 Jul 2018 12:07
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3 u/Jyiiga * 04 Jul 2018 03:08
Reddit is going to come under fire eventually. Just like Facebook has for various BS they pull. Its only a matter of time. It needs to be made clear to everyone that comes to Reddit, that this is no different than any web forum. All subs are bias in some fashion or another.
2 u/88005553535 † 03 Jul 2018 11:49
> fuckwit mods quietly delete those comments Everyone is debating this, but not debating the downvote bots. Any opinions, even those that contribute to the discussion, are downvoted en masse. Basically censorship of wrongthink from two different directions.
6 u/TheMassivePassive 03 Jul 2018 14:21
Are they bots? I thought it was no life lefties sitting on new.
2 u/Iconoclast674 03 Jul 2018 11:54
Lol what did you say
2 u/Jeyhawker 03 Jul 2018 19:52
They have a lot filters for keywords.
2 u/Itsamadmadmadworld 03 Jul 2018 23:49
I think it's time to begin to look for a new reddit. This site has simply become too popular, and with it comes wide spread corruption.
2 u/BigTimStrangeX 04 Jul 2018 13:35
If Admins step in, they can be considered a publisher which leaves them vulnerable to lawsuits over the content that appears on Reddit.
1 u/BossRedRanger † 03 Jul 2018 11:40
Anything deleted gets an explanation reply. I've received it once before and I've seen it often on troll posts. Provide evidence of what you're talking about outside of those parameters.
4 u/88005553535 † 03 Jul 2018 11:47
Good joke. Hundreds of my comments have been deleted in popular subs with zero explanation. The catch is, it doesn't look deleted to you; you need to view the page in Incognito mode to see the whole `[deleted]` chains.
1 u/[deleted] 03 Jul 2018 12:39
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-6 u/BossRedRanger 03 Jul 2018 16:45
I don't believe you.
2 u/Shadilay_Were_Off 03 Jul 2018 18:41
Cool story bro.
-3 u/satosaison 03 Jul 2018 11:49
His thing probably got moved to a megathread by the automod and he's just cranky.
3 u/Jeyhawker 03 Jul 2018 19:55
That isn't true. I've had a person get mad at me for me 'deleting' my post when he went to reply. Like get mad like a jackass. The comment was about our coup of Ukraine, there was nothing in it that was non-factual let alone rule-breaking.
2 u/Basketball-American [OP] 03 Jul 2018 21:27
> Anything deleted gets an explanation reply. That's completely fucking **FALSE**.
1 u/imahik3r 03 Jul 2018 20:11
First you do know that reddits owner has admited he does that when he disagrees with posts. Second. why wouldn't they? Their heroes are Stalin, Hitler and pol pot. Birds of a feather.
1 u/Titus_Brutus 03 Jul 2018 23:19
Reddit treats subredditd as the property of the person who created it; the head mod and mods are given control over the content on their sub. While I don't like the fact that politics is biased, manipulative, and openly dishonest, I don't think it is violating any rules. With that said, I see absolutely no reason why politics should be a default sub. Given the extensive history of censorship and brigading and some legitimate evidence that the sub moderation was sold to a Democratic PAC, it should not be a default suv
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1 u/souljabri557 04 Jul 2018 18:33
It's their sub and they're allowed to do that they want with it, however unfair it may be.
1 u/Sablemint 07 Jul 2018 22:53
Its their subreddit.They can do whatever they want with it. That's really all there is to it. Edit: I wrote everything below this after already posting. I mean, TD bans people for being critical of Trump, as does r/conservative. So they're just as guilty. Of course, site-wide changes would be good. I don't personally like the system in place. But to pretend its just one subreddit doing it? That's simply not the case.
1 u/JustHalftheShaft 18 Jul 2018 04:36
R/politics has been owned by Hillary’s people for a long time. It’s great though because it’s turned into a GREAT display for how absolutely insane the left are. Almost every post now is a headline about Trump and then something about Hitler, followed by comment after comment about how enforcing a nation’s borders is the same as the holocaust.
0 u/[deleted] * 03 Jul 2018 12:18
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-1 u/[deleted] † 03 Jul 2018 11:08
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-2 u/Sythus † 03 Jul 2018 11:28
Every time I've had a comment deleted anywhere, I've been given some sort of an excuse why. This has only really ever happened on right leaning subs, such as when I posted a fat girl in hotties for Trump, or when I was critical of trump in the Donald. I don't recall being deleted anywhere else really. Why does the age of the mods matter? They might very well be 20 something's. That age range probably makes up the majority of Reddit. Why not try to become a mod yourself if you think it isn't being ran right? Start your own political sub, one that you are mod of and free from political bias.
-2 u/satosaison † 03 Jul 2018 11:48
>They might very well be 20 something's. Whoa whoa whoa, you may be college educated, but you definitely aren't entitled to an opinion on the internet.
2 u/Basketball-American [OP] 03 Jul 2018 22:15
> Every time I've had a comment deleted anywhere, I've been given some sort of an excuse why. Funny how stupid people can't comprehend what they haven't experienced first hand. Actually, I think you're just being a willfully ignorant liberal. So fuck off.
-2 u/theoremprover † 03 Jul 2018 12:18
Why aren't they allowed to? It's their subreddit. They make the rules. T_D does it too. That's how all the mainstream political subs work.
-5 u/PIG_CUNT 03 Jul 2018 14:07
OP, this is why. Understand that the mods of any sub can delete whatever they want. It’s not like Reddit requires them to NOT delete certain things.
-7 u/theoremprover 03 Jul 2018 14:26
This is what I don't understand, how can you complain about deplatforming if you are using a service for free?
-6 u/PIG_CUNT 03 Jul 2018 14:38
LOL, that too!
2 u/Basketball-American [OP] 03 Jul 2018 21:32
> how can you complain about deplatforming *Liberal detected.* Fucking nauseating.
0 u/theoremprover 03 Jul 2018 21:35
Why though? It's just the free market. Do you think liberals like free market valued?
1 u/Neoxide 03 Jul 2018 14:43
This is how all subreddits work. They are controlled entirely by the mod teams discretion of that subreddit. Some subreddits enact strict policies abide by them, others enact vague policies and do whatever they want. "don't be a jerk" is a common rule on many subreddits these days which is basically a catch-all for speech the mods don't like. Usually dissenting opinions qualify as being a jerk in the eyes of the mods.
0 u/theoremprover 03 Jul 2018 14:44
Yeah it's not rule of law by any means. I mean "rules" in a looser sense. It makes no sense to have due process on a subreddit.
8 u/bacon_flavored 03 Jul 2018 14:53
Is politics still a default and on popular? Genuinely curious. I don't visit all anymore and that was my main issue with what OP is talking about before. Reddit presented them as a default sub with a generic name like politics where T_D never masqueraded as a neutral anything.
0 u/theoremprover 03 Jul 2018 15:00
Are default subs even a thing anymore? I don't browse it at all.
1 u/CountryOfTheBlind 06 Jul 2018 22:40
T_D and politics are run by the same Muslims.
-2 u/quidgy † 03 Jul 2018 12:31
The irony is strong
-6 u/SirEDCaLot 03 Jul 2018 14:37
What you have to understand is that /r/politics is not 'the politics section of Reddit' but rather one of many thousands of independent communities, each with its own rules and mods and mod guidelines. So while 'politics' is certainly an official-sounding title for a sub, in reality there are no 'official' subs (save for things like /r/announcements). /r/politics is just one of many. Therefore, the mods of /r/politics are welcome to run *their sub* in any way they see fit. That includes deleting comments they disagree with if they want to. The appropriate response (annoying as it is) is to unsubscribe and move to another sub.
4 u/Basketball-American [OP] 03 Jul 2018 21:37
Mealy-mouthed, pussified responses like this is how Reddit gets away with it. Liberal bootlickers say there's "no problem here, leave if you don't like it." Fuck off.
5 u/SirEDCaLot 03 Jul 2018 22:42
You misunderstand me. I don't like biased moderation any more than you do. However I look at the alternative- how do we fix this? If moderators are *required* to be neutral, who enforces that neutrality? Do Reddit admins start stealing subreddits from overly biased mod teams? Who determines what is 'biased' and what isn't? Should any subreddit with a mainstream popular name (ie 'Politics') be held to a different standard than other subreddits? etc etc etc. For the record- I'm mostly liberal and I can't fucking stand the constant mindless anti-Trump circle jerk. I'm all for intelligent criticism but what we have now is TRUMP BAD HATE TRUMP GOOD SUPPORT TRUMP BAD so if you say something even slightly good about Trump you get downvoted to oblivion in short order. It's pathetic. We (liberals) are supposed to be more intelligent than this. However while I'd love to fix that, and I'd love for /r/politics to be a neutral place, I don't see any way of making that happen without seriously changing what Reddit is. If admins start stealing subreddits, that's a VERY slippery slope. And who gets those subreddits? How long before /r/news /r/technology /r/politics and every other 'major category name' have been taken over to present an Admin-curated view of things? No, that is a Bad Thing. I don't like censorship in subreddits, but I also value the independent authority of subreddit moderators. The side-effect of that is we will have some badly moderated subreddits. That's the cost of doing business, and I'm okay with it. So in short- I'm saying 'leave if you don't like it' because the same thing applies to all other subreddits (including conservative subreddits). I believe each subreddit owner should be able to run their sub as they see fit. I hope that clears up my position :)
1 u/Basketball-American [OP] 03 Jul 2018 22:48
> However I look at the alternative- how do we fix this? If moderators are required to be neutral, who enforces that neutrality? Simply make it so mods must cite specific rules that were broken before deleting any comment. Currently, it's arbitrary, and mods delete opinions they don't like. That's the problem. If the shoe were on the other foot, liberals would be shrieking at the top of their lungs.
3 u/SirEDCaLot 03 Jul 2018 22:58
Rule #1: Posts and comments we feel do not add to the discussion or which discriminate against any person or group will be deleted. Bam, your policy is now useless. Why did you delete that? I felt it didn't add to the discussion. End of story. Or Why did you delete that well thought out post advocating for border security? Because it advocates for action that overwhelmingly affects Mexicans and is thus discrimination. End of story. But for the sake of argument let's say we do what you suggest. How do we stop overly broad rules like the above? And if someone wants to complain about the moderatorship, who do they complain to? What is done about it? Do we set up a situation where Reddit admins regularly remove mod positions and install different mods? I don't think that's better.