The fact that relatively few people made it across. There and other places there are walls. Sure you may not like how it was used, but it was used for the reason to keep people from moving across and it prevented the majority of people from doing just that.
They also had armed military units continually patrolling the wall with orders to shoot anyone trying to cross. There'd be a huge public outcry if the US started doing that.
It didn't work, because it was torn down. If it did work, it would not have been torn down.
How many 'things that work' which have been torn down can you name?
Oh, you definitely got me there. Now that that's over - do you have any relevant insights regarding my question, or perhaps just want to drop the idea that something that was dismantled by the people it was supposed to contain, maybe was not as effectual as some people somehow think?
I mean, I can't quite believe you're serious but I'll attack your argument on two fronts.
There are countless bridges that are eventually torn down after they've outlived their useful life. Now, what is the purpose of a bridge? To allow passage from one side to the other. So, during its lifespan, did it work? Did it function as intended? The phone in your hand will one day break. Is it working at its purpose right now?
So, along those lines, entropy and the second law of thermodynamics says that eventually everything will "break", not work, be scattered and without form and function. Everything in the universe. By your logic, that means that literally nothing works because your argument is that something only works if it exists in perpetuity. I hope you can see the absurdity of your assertion.
Your argument is very confused but I think it is along the lines of "ok, redditcensors says the Berlin Wall is a good analogy because while it was up it was effective, but if they continue the analogy they will see it is no longer up and was removed thus it is not working!" There may also be, though you haven't stated as such that I've seen, an implicit criticism of the analogy in that one wall was built to keep people in and the prospective US wall is to keep people out.
Is that an accurate summary of your views?
Again, it fails on a number of fronts. The wall was eventually removed when it was determined due to events that border crossing was no longer problematic. And indeed, that may come to pass in the US as well. The original point was that while the wall stood, it was indeed effective at its purpose. It's a simple point that I feel you're deliberately misconstruing.
Secondly, analogies are just that, analogies. If they were a precise 1:1 representation we wouldn't need them, we'd just reference the actual thing in discussion. That's why I don't think the keeping people in vs keeping people out portion is relevant, nor any other factors besides the bit about "walls work".
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