In [What is the purpose of the US gov'ts new found interest in "UFOs"?](https://www.reddit.com/r/askaconservative/comments/o5tcnw/what_is_the_purpose_of_the_us_govts_new_found/), r / JungConservative (a mof for the group, who was the OP in that thread started by writing ​ >My theories: > >A grift to secure more military funding > >An anti-Christian psy-op. UFOs are a convenient way to conflate science fiction with real life and undermine the religious notion that God created just Earth & Heaven. (the rest of the universe of stars and rocks is God's flex) > >Thoughts? ​ and then went on to say in [one of his responses to another user's comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/askaconservative/comments/o5tcnw/what_is_the_purpose_of_the_us_govts_new_found/h2otjw7/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), ​ >I don't see how someone can be a traditional Christian and believe in e.t. The bible is pretty clear on the matter of creation to leave out such an important detail. ​ which brings us to a Fundamentalist Christian conspiracy theory that has been in circulation for a while, and had to be addressed: that if aliens show up, that they'll really be fallen angels in disguise. Yes, we're in that Flat Earther / Space is not Real Zone, and left with the question of how a belief in fiscal restraint should be seen as something that comes bundled with a belief that the sky is a literal solid dome. Or crystal sphere. Or whatever. So I asked this nutcase the obvious questions. ​ >So, does that mean if real extraterrestrials show up, that your religion will be over, completely discredited? Or that the rest of us will have to take you out before you start trying to kill "the demons" and get Humanity into an interstellar war that wouldn't end well for it? ​ I was blocked within a few minutes, in less time than I needed to type and post my next comment, by an OP who was not open about the fact that he was a mod. But I stand behind the question I asked, because unlike the response of the cowardly mod, it was perfectly fair and reasonable. Usually, when I show up here talking about my latest banning from a group, I'm rolling on the floor laughing. Some of you might remember the time I got banned from a subreddit because I talked about making Coq au Vin, and supposedly that was verbal violence against chickens - that was the actual explanation given by that mod. What could I do, then, but laugh and share an amusing story with you guys, because it was so ridiculous, and because what did I really lose? Nothing, really - just the chance to post writing for free to a forum that was clearly not worth my time. I got a mildly amusing story out of the "trauma" and went on to have as good a day as one can have during a lockdown. But this is different. Yes, this is ridiculous, too, but if you think about what is going on and what has been going on, this is a lot less benign. In this case, if there even are any aliens, they're so new here that we don't know if they even really exist, and JungConservative's faction is already encouraging a level of race hatred toward them that would make Hitler's views of the Jewish people seem mild and compassionate by comparison. They are that ready to hate a people we don't even know yet, not because of anything that they did, but just for existing. That's more than just a free-standing position on a scenario that's probably not going to arise any time soon. It's an attitude toward people and life, and it's a troubling one, because it has consequences. I trust we all know what "xenophobia" is? ​ ​ This is the same faction that one can see encouraging open anti-Semitism on social media, referring to the Jewish people as "the Synagogue of Satan." I have Jewish friends who will tell you of the death threats and attempts at doxxing that they've been on the receiving end of, since 2016 or earlier. This kind of racial hysteria has already produced multiple mass shootings. Xenophobia is not victimless, so when one has a mod who is willing to abuse his power to help push that vice a little bit further, I'll mention the sub, the mod and the incident, but this time I won't be laughing. We have a homegrown melding of Fundamentalist Christianity and something very akin to Fascism that needs to be recognized and fought. "I found a Bible quote that I've decided to interpret a certain way, so I get to open fire and silence the unbelievers" is more than a little bit problematic. E.T. probably isn't here, yet, but the paranoia toward "The Other" being encouraged definitely is, it's getting entrenched. If anybody thinks that's A-OK, go find some of the survivors at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, and ask them what they think about the matter. ​ ​ ​ As usual, I'm not asking for the sub's help in getting reinstated in AskAConservative. Now that I know what I'm dealing with - a pack of Alt-Right xenophobes, not really conservatives, at all - I don't want to post to that group, any more. But it looks like a good place for others to drop by, and ask a few awkward and probing questions. They are 100% entitled to be bigoted morons, if that's what they want to be, but they're not entitled to be so and maintain the illusion that they're anything other than what they are. Talk to them a bit, and their facade will break. These aren't Conservatives. These are neo-Nazis, or something very close.