Temp banned from r/alltheleft for posting Jimmy Dore...
14 28 Nov 2021 15:51 by u/karmagheden *
I posted:
https://np.reddit.com/r/alltheleft/comments/r3soz8/hillary_scolds_clueless_ordinary_americans
I replied to a user who said:
>Every time I think I'm done hearing from Hilary Clinton, she comes back from the grave to let us know how terrible she is.
With:
>Did you hear her podcast earlier this year?
>https://youtu.be/nLdz9-fdp8o
>It's insane too, especially when you find out she and her camp were't just threats to democracy by colluding with DNC and MSM (and social mesia astroturf) to stop Bernie (not to mention reject policy that is overwhelmingly popular among democrats and among most Americans across party lines) but that Russiagate was a Hillary Clinton concocted conspiracy. Her people had more ties to Russia than Trump or his people apparently! And the 'threat of fascism' that was in the WH, was literally thanks to Hillary and her type of dem, neoliberalism and neoconservatism, not to mention Clintonite dems like Biden - who are literally just as authoritarian as Trump. I don't even think Obama was less authoritarian than Trump. The hypocrisy of the neoliberal crowd is truly astounding.
>Bonus for those interested in Russiagate:
>https://youtu.be/4bC9LRwrjjc
>https://youtu.be/JtWtpQ67BRI
>https://youtu.be/_a2TC0YOUsk
>https://youtu.be/M5H7U8dkgyU
>https://youtu.be/HKDRxSQMa-M
>Edit: Russell Brand made a video about it and he is not a right-winger or fan of Trump.
>https://youtu.be/0k6X03XvxW
That comment was removed and I received this in the mail:
>You have been temporarily banned from participating in r/alltheleft. This ban will last for 3 days. You can still view and subscribe to r/alltheleft, but you won't be able to post or comment.
>Note from the moderators:
>>Jimmy Dore is not permitted to be posted here. He’s a right wing piece of shit. Posting him again on this sub will result in a perma-ban.
>If you have a question regarding your ban, you can contact the moderator team for r/alltheleft by replying to this message.
I never saw any rule against posting Jimmy Dore and I was pretty sure I have posted him there before.
I wrote back:
>I disagree with him being a right-winger and grifter but regardless, since when are mods here pro-censorship??? I can't even reply to that thread and defend myself against accusations of being a Russian troll. Why? After having contributed here so many times, this is how I am treated?
>Also, what part of those videos are him promoting the right-wing or spreading misinformation/disinformation? Aaron Mate covers Russiagate pretty thoroughly, as does Matt Taibbi and a couple others like Caitlin Johnstone. Even Russell Brand made a video about it and he is pretty clearly a leftist and no fan of Trump. But seriously what the actual fuck is up with this censorship? This place was one of the last leftists spaces to not try and control discourse and now this...
Did a search and here are two posts I made there previously on Dore and at the time writing this they are still up:
https://np.reddit.com/r/alltheleft/comments/l0et80/jimmy_dore_on_censorship
https://np.reddit.com/r/alltheleft/comments/mdul6u/the_democratic_party_is_bought_and_paid_for_by
I was pretty sure I posted Jimmy Dore videos there before that were approved/allowed up (again these are up at the time of writing this):
https://np.reddit.com/r/alltheleft/comments/o7ov8o/cenk_uygurs_lies_smears_obliterated_by_aaron_mat%C3%A9
https://np.reddit.com/r/alltheleft/comments/o2273p/tyts_disgusting_misogyny_hypocrisy_their_false
Just a couple ^
I post to r/alltheleft frequently and I have posted a bunch of times there criticizing Russiagate and have never had my posts removed.
Edit:
Mod replied:
>This isn’t a debate sub Reddit here to try to redeem assholes like Dore as dore is unquestionably a right wing anti vax grifter piece of human garbage. The comment calling you a troll will also be removed and that user messaged to knock it off.
I replied with:
>>as dore is unquestionably a right wing anti vax grifter piece of human garbage
>Again, I am questioning that narrative and don't think he is a right-wing grifter and AFIAK he is double vaxxed and has told people to get vaxxed so I don't think he is anti-vax. Being anti-mandates is not equal to being anti-vax. There were figures who were anti-mandates and were even promoting vaccine hesitancy if not outright saying they would not take the vax under the previous administration, like Kamala, Pelosi, Biden, Fauci and the ACLU. Still, what is up with the censorship? This is the first time I am experiencing this here and I have posted Jimmy Dore content at r/alltheleft before (including videos - which are mod approved) so this really caught me by surprise and is disappointing. Then I have people calling me comrade and Russian troll, I don't want them censored, I would rather be able to defend myself against these bogus accusations and provide more evidence for those claiming it's a right-wing conspiracy to point out how Russiagate was created by the Hillary camp.
Mod replied with:
>This is a sub-reddit for Leftists to post Leftist content. Jimmy Dore is not a Leftist. He's a right-wing grifter as far as this sub-reddit is concerned. You being able to post his videos here before is not enough to just post his shit from this point forward as he is no comrade, no friend to Leftism, the working class - nothing - and the 3 day ban was in essence a warning that we can overturn if you agree to not post his shit on the sub moving forward as the next time it happens the ban will be permanent and there will be no chance to overturn it.
>Let us know what you decide on that, otherwise we will see you back on the sub in 3 days. Your choice.
No friend to leftism or the working class, while he promotes left-wing policy and unions, class solidarity and a general strike? I'm baffled. It's like this person has never watched his segments or saw his participation in the M4A march or People's Party convention or him espousing pro leftist/working class and anti-imperialism views back in 2015/2016 and ever since!
I responded with:
>>This is a sub-reddit for Leftists to post Leftist content. Jimmy Dore is not a Leftist. He's a right-wing grifter as far as this sub-reddit is concerned.
>As far as sub is concern or the mods of the sub or select mods or mod?
>Our opposing views of him aside, how can you be pro-censorship and call yourself a leftist?
>>he is no comrade, no friend to Leftism, the working class
>Yet so much evidence points to the opposite being true. Far far more than anything he says that could even be misconstrued as him being a grifter/right-winger. I don't even know how you can listen to what he has said and championed for and participated in action wise and still say he is a right-winger and no friend to the working class. This exact talking point is pushes about him by actual grifters out the corporate dem establishment. Could it be that you were tricked by this propaganda?
Mod replied with:
>ok this is getting nowhere. See you in 3 days. Post Dore's shit again on this sub-reddit in a way that positions himself as an ally to the working class and the ban will be permanent.
Then got this message:
>You have been temporarily muted from r/alltheleft. You will not be able to message the moderators of r/alltheleft for 3 days.
Posted a tweet by Greenwald and it got the usual replies calling him right-wing/grifter. I replied saying I thought he was a libertarian leaning progressive/left leaning libertarian, but certainly not a right-winger. I replied to another user:
>Just as Dore who self identifies as a progressive/leftist but is labeled a grifter/right-winger and no friend to the working class despite him championing progressive policy, unions/workers rights, platforming AOC, supporting the people's party, joining and promoting M4A marches, promoting force the vote and eftist leaders to leverage their power, promoting class solidarity and general strike. However, posting videos or articles of him here that are not anti-Dore will get you perma banned so I am told by a mod.
Of course my comment was removed not long after, likely reported by those in the thread calling GG a right-winger.
I don't know when mods there started embracing establishment dem propaganda and censorship.
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