Permanently banned from r/news - accused of posting covid misinfo
32 27 Jan 2022 08:18 by u/karmagheden *
I responded to someone in this thread here:
https://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/scejd2/boston_hospital_refuses_heart_transplant_for_man/hu644g4/?context=3
>>Looking at these comments is really sad. Dehumanising people isn't a good thing regardless.
>Have you seen the sub hermaincainaward?
That one ^ wasn't removed before I messaged the mods (but may be now)
Someone replied:
>People posted to that sub choose to not get vaxxed and put countless people at risk. It’s entirely their fault
I replied with:
>You can still get and pass the virus if you are vaccinated. You can still die as well. Obviously it reduces chances of serious illness, so if you are afraid of getting ill, get the vaccine. What does it matter if someone else decides they don't want to get the vaccine? You can get it from someone who is vaccinated. You can't vaccinate your way out of a pandemic with a leaky vaccine. This is not a pandemic of the unvaccinated. That is misinformation. The sub embraces misinformation and takes joy in others suffering.
I got downvoted into oblivion for both comments and the above one was removed. I noticed this a bit ago, along with realizing all the others removed.
Another comment removed:
>I recommend reading the slate article about the hermancainaward sub.
That one was immediately removed by automod after posting, I had noticed.
Another comment of mine that was removed:
>>>Still not a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
>>Call any overburdened ICU in this country and ask the vaccination status of 90%+ of their patients.
>>Yes, it is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Pull your head out of your ass.
>It's really not and our overburdened hospitals speaks more to for profit healthcare system. Hospitals have closed. Staff have been cut. They admitted ICU beds are not profitable, that is why we don't have more. The year before the pandemic, hospitals were overcrowded. I am fully vaccinated and I am against vaccine mandates. I also think this talking point about hospitals is BS because it ignores the underlying issue which I mentioned above.
Another:
>>Yes, it is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Pull your head out of your ass.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02243-1/fulltext
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/04/no-its-not-a-pandemic-of-the-unvaccinated-it-still-threatens-us-all
And another:
>>Calling someone a plague rat is fine. They generally are. And there aren't too many actually taking enjoyment from another's death.
>There are, I have browsed that sub, after reading an article about it. Calling people 'plague rats' is pretty despicable. How about those who are vaccinated and spread it to others, are they plague rats? Those who are vaccinated and don't mask or practice good hygiene and social distancing, are they plague rats? If you are punching left and right and down, you are helping to divide the American people, which only helps the elite who have profited off of this pandemic. Stop doing what they want you to do and attacking your neighbor. People censoring discussion and forcing others to get a vaccine, is authoritarian and equally disturbing and despicable.
This one wasn't removed at the time I had noticed most others had been (but may now be remove after messaging the mod):
>>It's not a pandemic of the unvaccinated?
>https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02243-1/fulltext
>There is increasing evidence that vaccinated individuals continue to have a relevant role in transmission. In Massachusetts, USA, a total of 469 new COVID-19 cases were detected during various events in July, 2021, and 346 (74%) of these cases were in people who were fully or partly vaccinated, 274 (79%) of whom were symptomatic.
>You see countries that have a high vaccinated rate that were still ravaged by covid. That does not support your assertion about it being a pandemic of the unvaccinated. If the vaccine made you completely immune to getting the virus, then I would probably agree with you, but that is not the case.
Someone wrote:
>Vaccination causes a shorter infectious period, feweer symptoms and tons of other such stuff, so while you CAN still transmit it, the CHANCE is lower
I replied with (and this was also removed):
>And studies suggest early treatments can help reduce time of and severity of sickness. I can't mention them out of fear of being censored and banned, however there are articles about them on nih. What else you can do is losing weight. Studies suggest vitamins like d, c, zinc, k2 etc can also help in the fight against covid. There is another nih article about this. Even CBD (often prescribed in oil form) is looking like it could help.
>It's 2 years in to the pandemic. Why is Fauci not saying these things and instead has misled people to believe that if only everyone got vaccinated, the virus would go away? Now he is saying it's likely everyone will get it, which is what others were saying much earlier and got censored for it. You can't vaccinate your way out of a pandemic using a leaky vaccine. So why so much attention solely on the vaccine as a solution but no mention of the above by Fauci? Wait, he did say something, he demonized potential early treatments and MSM (big pharma funded) helped.
>Just as those who talked about the lab leak hypothesis were censored and smeared as conspiracy theorists for the longest time, just as Fauci wanted done to the Great Barrington Declaration early on, emails show.
>Still not a pandemic of the unvaccinated. I think one issue is leading people to believe that if they have been vaccinated that they can't get it or give it, that if everyone just got vaccinated, we could get rid of the virus and this is simply not true. People who thought this way, could have covid despite being vaccinated, have milder symptoms, go out rather than isolating and spread it to others and people likely caught it this way and died. Just something to think about. Especially for those calling people plague rats and taking enjoyment in others catching and dying from covid.
So I messaged the mod and said:
>Just curious why my comment here was removed:
https://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/scejd2/boston_hospital_refuses_heart_transplant_for_man/hu6y4xf/?context=3
and a number of my replies down this comment chain have been removed:
https://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/scejd2/boston_hospital_refuses_heart_transplant_for_man/hu644g4/?context=3
My comments aren't misinformation and I can see comments from others who post inaccurate stuff on covid-19 in this thread and I am not asking for their comments to be removed. Why the censorship?? Do you just go by reports? Because there are people who report comments in bad faith to get it removed, whether they are misinformed or just trying to suppress certain information and discussion. Why enable that?
Mods replied 2 minutes later with:
>Thanks for pointing out the issue. You should have been banned. You are now.
>Covid misinfo is a instant permaban. Cheers.
>You have been permanently banned from participating in r/news. You can still view and subscribe to r/news, but you won't be able to post or comment.
>If you have a question regarding your ban, you can contact the moderator team for r/news by replying to this message.
>Reminder from the Reddit staff: If you use another account to circumvent this subreddit ban, that will be considered a violation of the Content Policy and can result in your account being suspended from the site as a whole.
>You have been temporarily muted from r/news. You will not be able to message the moderators of r/news for 28 days.
Seriously though. The censorship is outrageous, but furthermore, who decides what is and isn't misinformation? Just as I said, there were people in the comment section (who were upvoted) who got gotten stuff wrong about covid and I (who was heavily downvoted) had comments removed despite them containing accurate information about covid. Like what is wrong with these people?
I also had a comment removed from r/Music
https://np.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/sc0b2a/neil_young_demands_spotify_remove_his_music_over/hu7ct9i/?context=3
>>Here's one article fact-checking a doctor Rogan has had on (episode #1757). He is a dangerous liar who is benefiting from spreading misinformation. There are plenty more articles if you search his name.
>Dangerous misinformation? Like Fauci telling people they didn't need masks, that they didn't work? How about when Biden said that if you were vaccinated, you could not get sick? How about Rachel Maddow saying you couldn't get the virus if you are vaccinated? Authoritative sources have spread covid misinformation and potentially dangerous misinformation over Covid, but Rogan is so bad that he fact checked himself on his own show and admitted he was wrong.
I messaged the mods and asked why it was removed. I explained that it was not misinformation.
Music mods said it was removed by automod but that they would reinstate the post. Props to mods there.
Is anyone else experiencing this sort of this? I am so fed up with the censorship over covid. I recall being censored over it at the start of the pandemic and each time I was censored, It was stuff from experts and I provided citation (though it wasn't being said by Fauci or MSM at the time) and then a half year later + when the abovementioned would talk about it, then it was acceptable to talk about it. This happened a few times over the course of the last 2 years. First it was talking about the virus potentially sticking around (sticking with us like the flu) and how it could be spread asymptomatically, also covering early reports out of China/leaked reports, then over criticizing Cuomo on the nursing homes at the time he was being praised and given an award. I recall also being censored over just mentioning experts looking into potential treatments to go along with the vaccine. Why do they always say stuff like 'cheers' and 'have a nice day' after they ban you or ignore your appeal? These people act like tyrannical children.
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