I replied to someone here https://np.reddit.com/r/ActiveMeasures/comments/xwfzj8/whowhat_do_you_guys_think_is_most_responsible_for/ who asserted the answer to the OP question was 'Russia' and if you thought otherwise, you must be a Russian troll. I replied with "I'm not a Russian troll and I dispute it. See https://www.reddit.com/r/shills/comments/4kdq7n/astroturfing_information_megathread_revision_8" my reply was downvoted and after I logged out I noticed my comment was not showing up, I assumed (wrongly) it was the link, so I went to make another reply minus the link and I was unable to post. I checked my inbox and: >You have been permanently banned from participating in r/ActiveMeasures. You can still view and subscribe to r/ActiveMeasures, but you won't be able to post or comment. >Note from the moderators: >Russian troll >If you have a question regarding your ban, you can contact the moderator team for r/ActiveMeasures by replying to this message. >Reminder from the Reddit staff: If you use another account to circumvent this subreddit ban, that will be considered a violation of the Content Policy and can result in your account being suspended from the site as a whole. and: >You have been temporarily muted from r/ActiveMeasures. You will not be able to message the moderators of r/ActiveMeasures for 3 days. So I can't even dispute the ban/post removal or accusation of being a Russian troll. How does this not violate Reddit's moddiquette? Just a reminder that the NP means no participation, so please do not vote or participate in this thread. This is just to document the censorship and mod abuse. I'm really not a Russian or troll. I am not even a right-winger. I'm also not pro-Putin and I don't agree with his invasion of Ukraine, as I have stated numerous times. I also had another comment removed in a different thread in that sub where someone said to me "lmao, nice try ruski Edit: lol, you even post on WotB, a known Russian psyop sub" and I replied with: >I'm an American and a leftist and you sound like a lunatic calling people 'ruskies' when they challenge the official narrative over Russia-Ukraine. >And this sub looks far more like a psyop than wotb. Wondering if mods removed any of my other recent posts. And it seems the user I initially replied to has an thing for calling people Russian trolls and censoring them/no doubt reporting them to get them censored and or banned. I guess I will just message the mods there in 3 days and appeal this ban. Hopefully I can speak with a different mod than the one who just banned me and sort this out. If these other mods refuse my appeal over say, civility, I will question why these other users are free to call people ivan, ruskies, Russian trolls and Kremlin propagandists without any consequences. Is that rule not enforced equally because a mod is engaging in this behavior themselves on top of abusing their power with censorship and bans? **Update:** I wrote to mods there earlier to appeal my ban and sorry if it is a bit redundant but I basically repeated what I said here and defended myself against this ridiculous troll accusation: >I'll like to appeal the recent ban against me. I am not a Russian troll. I disputed another users assertion, noticed my comment had been removed and saw that I had been banned with reason given: Russian troll. I am now wondering if I replied to a mod and they were the ones who did not like anyone challenging their assertion and did the banning. >I'm not a troll or a fan of Trump or Putin, I am an anti-war leftist who has denounced Putin's invasion of Ukraine, who has promoted diplomacy and called out hypocrisy where it exists and I don't see why I deserved to have my comment removed let alone be banned and perma banned at that. What I experienced comes off as mod abuse and if it is a civility issue, well, I see the same user calling people Russian trolls in this very sub, just as I see others here calling users 'ivan' 'vlad' 'ruskie' or 'Kremlin propagandist' if they ever deviate from the official narrative, offer alternative views and evidence challenging that narrative. Not exactly fostering a place for healthy debate. Yes and I felt the need to mention my political stance and know I shouldn't need to, but that is the state of things today. I spoke the truth there and they still will not even give me the time of day. See below. And hour later I received a reply: >You have been temporarily muted from r/ActiveMeasures. You will not be able to message the moderators of r/ActiveMeasures for 3 days. I suppose I'll try again in 3 days and ask why they are muting me rather than taking the appeal seriously, which is something mods are supposed to do. I believe it violates moddiquette to not take appeals seriously. It seems these mods do not care. Do admins? I don't know how to contact admins to report mod behavior like this or I would have done so ages ago, but if these mods *do* somehow contact them over me messaging them to appeal this ban, I hope admins look into the mod/s here who label anyone they don't agree with as a 'Russian troll,' censor and ban them and immediately mute them so they can't defend themselves and question the ban, only to mute them *again* when the user messages them days later for an appeal to this false accusation behind the ban. I said that because whichever mod is doing the ban/muting, strikes me as the type who may consider my appeal as a sort of harassment, if not also me documenting their censorship and mod abuse here. And as another user here brought to my attention, it says in their own sidebar "The goal is to create and maintain a space where anyone can share their point of view on this topic, even if the moderators disagree with you." The mods behavior and actions do not reflect that at all and it actually violates their own civility rule - I touch on that in my appeal message to them. This type of modding/modsmanship w/e is not helping the Reddit community or the brand, but harming it. Admins may not step in until it's a potential financial threat to the company (prove me wrong) or they may never step in, but this type of moderation will 100% contribute to this sites downfall, not to mention the blatant astroturf/paid for posts, votes and reports. We all know it's happening. We knew it was happening back in 2016 (I provide evidence to support that in the very comment that was censored) and it has only gotten worse ever since. **Update 2:** 4 days later, I replied to the original ban message with: >Could I please appeal my ban from your sub? I am not a Russian troll (or any type of troll) and I don't appreciate the censorship and ban based on this absurd accusation and being muted directly and then again when I first tried to appeal this ban. Please take my appeal seriously, as per reddit's moddiquette. By the words in your own subs sidebar, I should have been free to dispute this other users assertion without fear of being censored, labeled a Russian troll and banned, but was punished anyways, running contrary to your own mission statement. And a mod calling users 'Russian trolls' within threads, violates your own civility rule, does it not? Maybe this mod is okay with the hypocrisy, but is the headmod okay with it? What would admins think about this? 10 minutes later I was muted again and received this following reply: >Russian troll. Muted. I received another reply a half hour later, assumingly from another mod, which read: >u/karmagheden, >This is a follow up to let you know that we've reviewed your ban on r/ActiveMeasures. >First off, an apology is in order. We have recently added mods at AM due to the growth of reports and our ability to keep up with them. Unfortunately, one of our new mods was not on the same page with our moderation policies when they called you a Russian troll. That shouldn't have happen and we apologize. >However, after reviewing your recent activity, your permaban will stand. You have submitted numerous rule-breaking comments, particularly rule 1 and rule 3, and have previously been banned for breaking the subs rules. Furthermore you have brigaded the subreddit. The mod team, including the top mod discussed a permaban for you weeks ago, and we agreed that one was warranted if you continued to post rule breaking content and to brigade the subreddit. >If you would like to dispute your permaban you can appeal to the admins. I replied and hit send but of course, I had been muted so I could not reply and contest this other mods points but my reply is below. >I put NP in the title so it was not a brigade. I have seen this mod call folks Russian trolls within threads on the sub and have seen other users call people ruskies etc, and directed at me yet they did not have their comment removed and I doubt they were banned. So you have evidence of other users and the mod in question violating the civility rules, but they get a free pass and somehow my incivility is worthy of a permanent ban??? I did not promote a brigade against their sub, I documented and linked evidence of folks on their sub smearing wotb https://np.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/w8raxk/tulsi_gabbard_rand_paul_placed_on_list_of_russian/illxrnx/ and by this mod's own definition, evidence of activemeasures users brigading wotb or promoting/instigating a brigade against wotb and even individual users of wotb, notice their users never put NP in their links? Notice the comment chain for full extent of the 'brigading.' Secondly, the two comments of mine that this mod linked (and I think it was the two times I believe I have ever been uncivil there), one where I said folks sounded deranged and the other where I was debating with a user and said sarcastically that it's folks like Chomsky, Mearsheimer, Bernie and Kissenger who fell for Russian propaganda and not this other user who fell for NATO/US military industrial complex propaganda, and while I admit these were not exactly civil, I have received multiple replies by folks there (probably dozens since I first posted there) including by this other mod that were easily equal if not worse, with name calling e.g. ruski/ivan, troll accusations, comments claiming I have fallen for and or was spreading right wing and Russian propaganda and yet their comments were not removed and they were seemingly not banned. I was previously banned as documented here https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditCensors/comments/mgs52m/permabanned_from_activemeasures_with_reason_given but it was unwarranted and a mod there admitted this when they lifted the ban, so I don't know why this mod would try to use this as reasoning to uphold my current ban. They said they discussed banning me over the brigade thing despite it actually being me documenting their users doing this to wotb, and that if I continued to post rule breaking content and brigade activemeasures, I would be banned. Posting to activemeasures is not brigading (plus I get downvoted at each turn ffs, where is the brigade again?) and I posted no rule breaking content until those two recent comments, so the 'numerous rule breaking comments' point is also inaccurate. I am very curious what I posted there before those two comments that this mod considers rule breaking because I have bent over backwards to be civil in a sub where people are constantly name calling me ruski or Russian troll when I attempt to actual debate people on topics and I am not the only one to get this treatment. Anyone that disputes the official narrative there is treated like this and mods do nothing or they join in, as I pointed out. Lastly, apart from that inconsistency in rule enforcement, how do those two comments of mine alone warrant a perma ban? Even that is extreme and I would appeal but I am muted and anyways was told to speak to an admin if I disagree with this mods decision to uphold the perma ban. Nearly a half hour after that mod's reply to me, I received a message increasing my mute time from 3 days to 28 days, so now even if I wanted to say to that mod what I just said here, now I would have to wait a month to do so. Shameful mod behavior, even from the seemingly more professional mod.