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I get that everybody wants to cosplay as debate lords online, but let's pretend to be practical for a second. If your group is about or in support of X, what logical point is there in entertaining Y? This might come as a surprise, but not everyone wants to/has to listen to your "totally fact based, zero emotion, completely rational" opinion that carries about as much weight as a cup full of verbal diareah. I don't know when we got to the point where we started over valuing the thoughts in our heads to the point where we now demand to heard, but all of the crying and whining has gotten out of hand. A valid opinion is whether pineapple goes on pizza or what season is most preferable. Completely benign things that are of no consequence and boil down to preferences. Your opinions dressed up as facts about whatever culture war issue you have been tricked into opining about is tantamount to the schizophrenic homeless man on the corner flapping his hands around, screaming hysterically. The difference is, that guy has a reason to be doing what he is doing. Everybody else is just screaming into the void, absolutely powerless to meaningfully impact their own lives and thus seek to spread that misery by forcing their shit opinions on everyone else. The point is this- none of this crap matters because we have already lost. Millions of people across the world are so myopic in their insistence on being heard, fighting with everyone else, completely distracted from the real issues. You are exactly where you are supposed to be, fighting with other powerless people while the people with actual power continue to take what little you have left. I have zero hope this will change anytime soon.