Did we just voat hug this site too hard?

It's down for me right now, that's kind of awesome if we did.

Ha-ha just pointing out that you do no research and provide no sources.

Remember that faggot? Hahahahshaha

You didn't even watch the video...

You have wrong definitions for everything.

Sure bud, keep being a little mangina and keep crying.

Love those walls of text , so much stupid.

Hahahahaha you fail to realize I'm just trolling your butthurt ass at this point.

Keep posting walls of text to show me how badly I got you rustled up.

We are all laughing at you hahahahaha, you even admit now you are wrong

hahahaha, still just doing I know you are but what am I.

Literally no one can read this thread now, it's just a flame war which you lost ages ago.

Have fun with that CabinetFaggot!

And I long ago accepted you're a faggot.

look again, I'm the OP and this side discussion on OSS being communism was your stupid shit.

I linked to a discussion that clearly states OSS development is not communism. Come on dude, give me your sweet links to Steve Ballmer (who is the only person that said this and he did it for obvious fucking reason back in 2000).

That is what you are basing your entire argument on, a 16 year old PR stunt to discredit Linux and OSS development.

This is why you are a faggot (which hasn't meant gay in over 20+ years. It means you are a pathetic loser)

BOOM!

got you little faggot, you are a faggot lefty and definitely a Regressive.

Go move to Cuba and enjoy the socialist paradise there....

Wtf are you talking about, I've cited things over and over. The links are in my post, your retarded opinions are not citations.

Ha-ha no wonder your a windows shill. Too stupid to do anything else.

Ha-ha what ever man, start slinging mud and don't want any back at you.

Also those are insults, not attacks on your character. I'm not wrong either reddt shill, go have fun in your loneliness.

I've having a blast with you two faggots, you are providing free entertainment.

Citation...oh wait faggots never do....

Provide proof and stop being such a fag

And Steve ballmer has been shotdown on that. Now we get to the truth, youre a cuck for Microsoft.

Seriously trying to reference him as source from 16 years ago is fucking hilarious.

You mean your second troll account.

Sure bud, agreeing with yourself on your personal opinion totally makes it true.

Faaaaaggggooootttt!

OMG HAHAHAHA

you have gone to the school yard level of 'I know you are but what am I!'

please be more of a faggot, I'm fucking loving this and it adds wonderful color to the thread.

There is literally NO ONE you can find to link to that agrees with you.

https://i.imgflip.com/y0emk.jpg

everything we have been talking about in this thread.

Or just look to current events with the left in Europe...full blown denial of reality going on in regards to the Islamist invasion going on and the rape fest.

I can tell you are a lefty, that's ok btw the left leaning people are not the problem now. It's the full blown retarded regressive leftist, who are extremists because if you take the time read about critical theory and cultural marxism, it becomes clear the hard core left is fucking insane.

FAAAAGGGGOOOTTT!!

hahaha, got your jimmies rustled.

You lost ages ago, I'm just having fun with you now.

by contrast I linked to sources and you talk out of your ass.

Keep trying faggot hahahaha

Here you go moron, keep dancing and pretending you are informed:

https://www.quora.com/Is-free-open-source-software-communist

Literally no one agrees with you because you don't understand what communism is.....faggot!

this seems to be a condition that particularly afflicts conservatives

You haven't dealt with the regressive left, they left that small number of right wingers behind and took the gold medal in 'cognitive dissonance' these last few years.

You've never done that you've just plaformed on your opinion, and its wrong and stupid.

Which is why you reference nothing but a weak analogy that doesn't hold up.

Wall of text saying nothing again.

Our wrong and still failing at it. You such at ad homien attacks as well. I have a better job than you and make way more money with less effort.

Go be a good commie, you ignore facts like one.

You have a personal view and its stupid.

It's a free market...except it doesn't involve any money.... or trade.... and it's an entirely arbitrary creation maintained almost exclusively

Bitcoin is money dumbass, the free market will define which FORK gets used. It involved TRADING YOUR PRODUCTIVITY, I guess you don't understand how credit works either. You pay for the use by contributing it back to the community of developers, NOT the public. Stating that OSS is owned by the public is simply not true and you just ignore anything that doesn't fit your world view.

Let me use small words. When you fork open source software for yourself you are incurring a DEBT, which you are OBLIGATED to repay through your PRODUCTIVITY. It's not free, the community doesn't own it, the community is INDEBTED to it.

This feels more like you're trying to fit something you like in a political view you want to have.

Once again, this has been you the entire time. You made a statement that OSS is communism and haven't done anything to prove that it is other than incorrectly interpret communism.

YOU injected that into this conversation and made a terrible analogy, which was easy to knock down...watch:

Public Road = Public Money = Owned by Public (business are taxed and do pay for roads, so you are also wrong on that interpretation).

OSS = Private productivity = Owned by the maintainers. Can be forked by others but will only get used if they are better than the first group or addressing a different niche.

That ain't communism buddy.

That said, I'm exhausted discussing it.

You made one decent post, the rest of the time you've been an asshole. Go sleep it off and have a snickers already.

There may be some useful idiots among the SJWs but the main force seems too well coordinated to be so.

Very true, although I'd suggest that is a product of the last 20+ years teaching kids groupthink...or at least I'm honest enough to say I hope that is the case but I won't rule it out. I'm banking on the fact that people are cheap and if they can get someone to do it for free AND make them think it is their own idea, they will.

If they are being paid then they can't be Useful Idiots, they need to be unaware that they are being used to fall into that category. The paid ones are agent provocateurs and we definitely know they are used by all western police forces (RCMP has been caught doing it up here).

Hope for victory, plan for defeat, it's the only way to live.

Cheers and please stay on top of your view point, it's just as important, arguably more important, than knocking down the useful idiots.

anyone who has ever produced a piece of open source software knows they've produced something the public now owns and the community controls

Look I'm not trying to engage in a flame war with you, I appreciate you taking the time to explain your position but this is literally No True Scotsman, which you accused me of doing.

I understand you premise now, that because the code is released under the GPL and anyone can fork and build from that code base makes is 'owned' by the general public. Where the road analogy falls down is the ownership of an OSS repo, it is not controlled by the public. If it was then the SJW wouldn't have to use social attacks to gain control over the code base.

It won't work because OSS development is not centralized and it is not controlled by the general public, it is controlled by a few people that maintain the repo. Just look at the bitcoin core versus bitcoin classic issues going on now (note: it's not a SJW issue, just different groups have different visions and the market will define who wins out).

That isn't communism, that is a clear example of the free market working. Also the requirement to make your code changes public is a means of paying for the work you've built off.

None of this comes off as communism unless you manipulate the definition and process of OSS development. If anything it's social based capitalism and the understand is that you are paying forward, not backwards.

Like I said I appreciate you expanding on your position, I don't agree with it but this type of post I can respect.

Thank you

Don't worry about it, he's a Reddit shill and just trolling.

Seems butthurt over the left going full retard.

I'm just glad people know its bull shit. Good posts and thank you for jumping in.

Pretty sure he is a redditor trying to defend SJW.

He clearly didn't watch the video or read anything about it. He's just an apologist for the Regressive left.

The video from thorium is worth watching.

Getting to know the people behind critical theory and what their agenda was is important to resisting the bullshit and calling it out.

Post a link to the GPL section.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat

Wow, what a communist success story going public, bunch of silly commies.

Still failing you silly troll.

Except it doesn't and the videos have nothing to do with them at all.

False flag bullshit. Try again

Ad hominem attacks do not prove you are correct.

Cultural marxism is a form of marxism, you are stating its not Marxism at all.

Please provide any type of source for your own logical fallices, you haven't linked or provided anything other than your opinion, which in fact is wrong as stated by the people who created it.

Edit: by your logic all other brands of christanity isn't Christian religions because they differ on dogmatic issues from Roman Catholism .

See your logical failure now.

There's a commons that you can use freely as you need it, or contribute to based on your ability

That isn't true, you are judged on your ability, and if found to be good it gets included and you get credit for it.

Redhat is an example of forking and building off OSS by making valuable products and services, zero communism here. People are getting paid fair value for their goods and services.

hahaha, you are free to feel that way.

Good luck with that.

their tendency to denounce some Marxist

some does not mean all and it clearly states they are derived from it and made their own version of Marxism, hence why it's called cultural marxism not just marxism.

God you are an idiot, it literally states they it comes from Marxism and they didn't think he went far enough.

Please, keep proving me correct because that is all you are doing here.

Cultural Marxism is just an ideology. Like all ideologies it is based purely on belief. There is nothing provable or disprovable about something based on belief. Ideologies (all of them without reservation) are waste of time and therefore I refuse to deal with them.

People that identify with an Ideology and communicating what their belief structures are and that absolutely does matter.

On the other hand we have a most tangible series of attacks on a specific kind of people - Open Source software developers, places and people defending Free Speech and so on.

Totally agree, I was pointing out that the SJW are being used as Useful Idiots. I think we are conflating two different issues where, those that are running the game and those that are being used by them to change the rules of the game.

I was only commenting on the latter, the former I'm aware of but wasn't the issue I was highlighting and probably should have explained that better.

You are only helping them by making the ideology the focus of the debate.

Except it is not ALL CIA operations, while I'll free acknowledge they will use them as Useful Idiots they do have their own agendas they are working for.

You are conflating two different issue, ideologies do matter regardless of your personal beliefs and how you feel.

So how is spreading information on their tactics and attack vectors, that will in turn help protect the OSS community from these social and economic attacks. I understand your point but you are underplaying the SJW role and how effect of a defence it is to disarm their ability to act.

It relies on the larger population staying ignorant of their agenda, tactics and hate mongers they actually are.

know this will freak your tiny little mind, SJWs don't like FOSS because they see everything that works and is dominated by men as a threat to their narrative that only their version of "diversity" works. All counterexamples must be destroyed.

This might blow your mind but you just defined what Cultural Marxism is, glad to see that you agree with me.

Start providing something other than your feelings as proof.

This isn't hidden knowledge, they openly call themselves marxist. The history of Critical Theory, which is where are these regressive leftist ideals derive from, is openly acknowledge as a marxist ideology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

Now can you provide anything else other than trolling?

you miss understood how OSS development works, the Opal case is a clear example of people (SJW) trying to turn it into a marxist structure where the 'oppressed classes' must be represented regardless of their ability and people with different opinions or critical of the ideology must be purged.

OSS is a meritocracy where you are judged on the quality of your work, the best rise to the top and builds on the success of the project. Developers work on OSS projects to round out their professional credentials, think of it more like the intership of software development where the barrier to entry is your own personal skills.

It has zero to do with centrally planned projects by a group of people that have no or little experience with the process assigning people to roles based on their 'ability and needs'.

How is OSS development, a system based on merit of the individual contributions to a project, a marxist platform?

That doesn't make any of sense, OSS is the direct opposite of marxism and if you are actually proposing that the Linux O/S is a product of marxism you are just being a troll.

You've provided nothing to backup your assertion, if OSS development is Marxism why would the SJW need to attack it?

I absolutely agree with you on that and thank you for expanding the point.

By definition Classic Liberalism is a conservative ideology, which is something I just found out recently but absolutely falls under the definition.

What we are seeing now, imo, is because the left has move soooo far to the left that they are now attacking centerist as being 'right wing' and fail to realize that the bulk of their support comes from these people.

Centerist are starting to rally together and resist this bullshit and it's lovely to finally see and participate in. It's about god damn time the center woke up to far down the rabbit hole the left has gone.

Got any sources for that?

I'm not stating you are wrong and I'm happy to look into your point of view but saying this isn't Cultural Marxism is disingenuous.

Now if you make the case that cultural marxism is just a weapon being used against us by a specific group, that is something I already agree with you on.

Know your enemy, know yourself and you will win every battle. Cultural Marxism is the weapon of choice, it's why Islamist and Feminism share in common ground and why the left is supporting these people. It's because they are using them to continue the ideological battle against Western culture.

They are clearly Useful Idiots that are being used just like Stalin, Castro, Mao, etc used them in their own political take over.

Why do you think they are redefining gender, race, religion, creed, and sexual orientation as a class struggle. Marxism is all about creating oppresses classes and in turn the oppressed class has the right to 'rise' up against their 'oppressors'.

They moved the narrative from a Worker class struggles to a gender/sex/race/creed/religion class struggle, none of this ideology works unless you can frame it that way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

edit: You are also wrong that it is directed solely at the OSS community, it's directed at all communities and they use the same false outrage follow by demands for concessions, which they then use to continue to use as a platform for their false outrage(s).

2nd Edit: I upvoted you to cancel out the down vote. Let's try and not down voat dissenting opinions and points of view. I'd actually like if @Caboose_Calloway expands on his point of view. We are better than that.

I also recommend checking out Sargon of Akkad and Dave Rubin [Rubin Report] on youtube.

Milo Yiannopoulos is also fun to follow, posh gay conservative fighting for cis-white male rights.... I swear to God we shifted into Bizzaro World at some point.

I never thought I'd see the day when gay men are the defenders of heterosexual culture.

What is cultural marxism by Thoruim:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYu6qhd88_M

You all need to watch this and get familiar with the concepts to fight against it. You can see them attempting to frame the Opal debate around 'classes' of people based on their gender, race, creed, and sexual orientation. They are being the Useful Idiots right now, Stalin had them, Mao had them, Castro had them, they are always around to be used.

Call them out on how racist they are by labelling a black person a member of the 'black class' and there for cannot be anything but that.

Race, Creed, Gender, Sexual orientation are not CLASSES, they are ATTRIBUTES that define an individual.

I'm going to make new post on this, the OSS community needs to be more aware of what is going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GHfSHYbkF4

She's a giant cunt and we her own CoC should he used against her to highlight the bullshit.

What a stupid cunt, her repos are shit too. All the SJW in that thread have shit all for code.

Not surprised