This statistic is still from the UK and the fewer deaths are still double the corona cases, so the deaths of other causes were actually going back, there is no other explanation for the "missing" deaths since they are not counted as corona.

So you agree the virus is that bad that the normal hospitals could not handle the cases. So there had to be actions taken, and masks, lockdown, temporary hospitals, social distancing were all the things to prevent deaths. Since the communication between the hospitals was that bad thank god there was a lockdown. Imagin it whitout it. I mean like the article says even with all these things they were over capacity.

Either you believe in the stats of 25% and the other data or not. But if you don't believe in any statistic there is no baseline to have a discussion

The article says that the normal hospitals were over capacity...even with lockdown The temporary hospitals were not used due to miscommunication

>Stephen Crowder has a good 'Change my mind' video on this topic, and he uses difference sources to come to the same conclusion. Even he makes good points that we don't have a perfect statistic for every covid case that the death was directly caused by covid and would not have happened whitout it, it bothers me he uses the whole time his "25% are not confiremd covid cases"-statement. While this seems true for New York City, which he also linked in the video, this seems to be a cherry-picked statistic. The CDC-Site has no data for every state, but for the states they have data, the data is up to date and the not confirmed cases are not near the 25% he uses. [https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html)

This statement woud suggest it. It is very unlikely that deaths from heart disease, influenza, dementia and alzheimers, neoplasms (mostly cancers) and all the other top ten leading causes of death should all reduce at the same time. So what can be going on? A number of experts have warned that to restrict access to the healthcare system could have deadly consequences for significant numbers.

Regarding the first source, I don't exactly get their conclusion that the limited access to healthcare reduced the numbers of deaths of other natural causes. And since the reduction is double the covid deaths, where is the other half? Seems like there are actually fewer deaths to other causes. And are we now talking about US or UK? Since the first source is London and the CARES Act is US. Recarding the CARES-Act section, it's hard to say what hospitals do, this is no proof for either side. And where did the lockdown cause deaths? PS: Gonna watch the Video

Which death number would you believe in? What's your source that numbers are lower than reported?

But at the same time we have to be careful with this kind of misinformation, it kills literally people...

Source?