I never denied anything, but alright.

\> EU is draconian for not allowing fascists to deny their crimes against humanity, that's fucking rich. Yup. Exactly it. Everyone should be able to have their own opinions. \> Wtf is there to investigate? All evidence was already documented soon after the end of the war. By Soviet and Allied governments. They are not reliable. Would you trust the PRC on information regarding the Great Leap Forward, the US Government on Indian removal, or, if the Nazi Government still existed, would you trust them on the Holocaust itself? \> Do you think there are still records or some sort of evidence lying around at Auschwitz? If you think that's the only thing that could be discovered, you yourself are being "rich". Cover every claim made by the Allied and Soviet governments. If the Nazis burned 6 million bodies, there's bound to be evidence of mass amounts of ash. If the Nazis gassed Jews, then Zyklon B should be tested to see if it is lethal. Etc. \> I really don't understand what you're trying to achieve here, besides parroting nonsensical neo-nazi talking points. Being an American, I believe that all information on everything should be available so we can make our own opinions. I believe in the Armenian genocide because of reputable sources who said it happened. I believe in the Rwandan genocide for the same reason. I cannot, in good faith, say the same about the Holocaust. In the EU, you must accept everything that is handed to you without non-biased verification and if you use this information to come to any conclusion other than what they exactly want to hear, you are arrested for several years. That is disgusting, and not right. \> And who exactly were these people that supposedly got arrested and censored? Hm? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws\_against\_Holocaust\_denial](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial) \> I'll stick my hand in fire at this point that your story about your family is complete bullshit. If it isn't, maybe you should go tell them about your views on history. They know my views on history, and they're in complete support. They similarly believe that if a government has nothing to hide, than they should make all information free and verifiable. The Turkish government denies the Armenian genocide, and was so adamant and trusting in this belief they allowed US investigators. The US investigators found that it was actually ***worse*** than the otherwise best estimates. The main reason I want private investigations is that we can expand our knowledge as much as possible. ​ The investigators may find that it never happened, that the information is 100% accurate, that it was actually worse than reported, or find information that we were never supposed to find. Maybe the Allied and Soviet governments have something on their hands that they don't want us to know. ​ # If you have nothing to fear, and are secure in your beliefs, why are you so adamant against this? What is so terrible about letting private non-partisan investigators investigate the Holocaust?

I never denied the Holocaust. I'm just saying that it shouldn't be illegal, and that the EU is draconian. Also, if it's not illegal to investigate, can you show me any studies that aren't Jewish historians or EU government officials that happened to investigate unrestricted, and afterwards weren't censored and arrested?

If I had to make a bet, I would say the information is 100% accurate, if only because what the Haptas (My Polish name, Hopchas is a English translation.)family went through and what they have personally told me. ​ I do *believe* the information, I just refuse to find it credible. I'm making a conscious objection because of the draconian policy of the Holocaust according to the EU. You cannot investigate, you cannot come to any conclusion other than what the government wants you to. I don't find that reminiscent of a government who has nothing to hide, though I find it's more likely that the Germans and Europeans as a whole find the whole situation too disgusting to allow anything else.

Holocaust in particular because it's the only thing that comes to mind that is illegal to investigate past what the EU governments will show you, and if you come to any conclusion from the information given past what they want you to think they will arrest you. ​ I do however believe accounts of Indian removals, because private and non-partisan investigators were allowed to investigate anything and everything, and they all have their own conclusions. For the Holocaust, that is not a freedom given.

Nothing, really. Just a general rule. I wouldn't trust the PRC with events concerning the Uighurs, so why would I do the same for the Soviets concerning the Holocaust?

Nothing, really. Just a general rule. I wouldn't trust the PRC with events concerning the Uighurs, so why would I do the same for the Soviets concerning the Holocaust?

I believe the Holocaust happened, just look at Hitler’s rhetoric. It’s the numbers I will not believe no matter what. Private investigators could find multitudes of things, as they have in the past. Their job is to investigate, after all, they are the ones I would believe. They could find everything from it not happening, from the current information being 100% accurate, or worse than reported.

I may somewhere, but here’s a paraphrase from what I can recollect. “I don’t trust any information about the Holocaust because it is exclusively provided by the Soviet and Allied governments, and until the EU allows private non-partisan investigators to investigate, I will not believe anything currently provided. Whatever they find I will believe. They may say it never happened, that the information now available is 100% accurate, or that it was actually worse.”

I like Jewish people and support Israel, and also I’m not Jewish. I’ve just spoken out against the fact that 2% of the US population make up most of it’s rich. I believe there’s a strong correlation between Jews and ethnic-nepotism, but that’s really the case with any faith, but it’s especially prominent towards united minorities. I find it sad and I want all racial supremacy and favoritism to stop.

Basically, all of the information we have of the Holocaust is provided exclusively by the Soviet and Allied governments. Therefore, I will not believe the information provided. I don’t trust any government to be truthful as a basic rule, and I am especially skeptical because the EU will not allow any private investigators. If there is nothing to hide, why hide it?

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