It came with the tank, I am pretty sure.

It has a gauge on it.

I have one that monitors the amount of oil in the tank, for the boiler. It also gives a readout on a web page. That's it. That's all it does.

I'm not ever actually going to run out of oil. If I do, then the whole world is pretty fucked and my readout isn't very important. They stop by once a month to top it off.

Yup. I keep telling myself that I'll get to them when I retire - except I've been retired for over a decade. What happens is that I keep obligating myself to do stuff, often for other people. I pretty much suck at retirement.

I'm not even sure I ever really wanted the gate - it'd just be a hassle. I still haven't bought a gate.

I could buy one, right now - and easily have it do what I want, including fobs and even keycards.

I haven't.

I'm pretty sure that I was REALLY drunk back then. These were like first or maybe second gen Pi. It might have been like 2012, or something.

They've been sitting in that drawer ever since. I've tried to give 'em away a few times. I think I might have even given one away.

Once upon a time, I was going to build a fancy gate for the house. I realized how silly that was, after buying a few parts and figuring out that I'd never get to it and could just buy the system right off the shelf. I was going to give people RFID chips in magnet housing so that they could automatically open the gate based on criteria, and build a phone app so that I could also authorize people remotely.

I'm just not that energetic.

This is why I have like six Raspberry Pi (first series) still sitting in their packages. I opened one of them.

Also, I was probably drunk when I ordered them.

Well, there you go. Do that. Type that name into your favorite search engine and add modifiers. It's usually used in IoT. I have one monitoring the oil level for the furnace and telling me the temperature in that room in the basement. I keep it on its own dedicated network, so that it's not available over the internet.

It tells you what it is. It's an Arduino Yun. I think that one is the first model.

There are tons and tons of resources for it.

I posted some personal experiences with him, earlier today. They are in v/Linux, somewhere.

One Raging Asshole Called Larry Ellison.

For what it's worth, I've employed many, many hundreds of people, with a large percentage being from academia or technical backgrounds.

I tell you that not to brag but so that you may understand and apply whatever weight you wish to the following...

The first time to act was on day one, when the red flags went off. Well, maybe sooner. I haven't seen the contract.

Shit jobs don't magically get better on day two - pretty much ever. Right away, you could see it was mismanaged. That was when you deal with it. Some people never learn to manage well and some places are worse than useless, with shitty politics to make it even worse.

Leaving was the correct option and trying to change it on day one would probably be futile. You could do so to say you tried.

Lesson learned?

Maybe this will help?

I have programmed. I suck at it. I have employed many programmers, and given the nature of the beast, many engineers who could also program. I will not use the term software engineer, really.

I'd not have hired you if you disclosed you'd kept that job in a job interview. If you'd stuck that out, you're retarded.

So, that might ease your mind.

Corpses. Fresh, when I can get them.

https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/223313/style-guide-for-c

However, it's more important to be consistent. Whatever you go with, be consistent.

Hmm... My guess is you're building up your comment count and hoping to get votes by posting to old submissions in hopes that you can use your account to submit commercial content later on. This is a comment you'd have had to seek out, as it's nowhere near the front page. Your account is new and you have no points.

So, I'm not going to be able to vote your comments up until we have more clarity.

I'd add learning formal logic to the rest of the posts. It's covered as a math discipline.

Maybe you have none of those things because you don't actually have good ideas or any skills that are valuable to other people?

Only homosexuals use Go.

Posted 'cause I know how much v/programming loves them some JS!

We all make them, I suppose. I have made it a point to double check. I've made that many mistakes submitting.

Why v/programming?

Why? I'm legitimately curious, not being snarky.

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LOL if that's the case, then you can't trust any compiled language. I think that was first posed in the sixties.

Yeah, it looks like the source for the compiler is available?

Hmm... The bit about closed source libraries is new to me. Got anything I can read up on that? I've only read along and downloaded it. I haven't even done a Hello World with it yet. So, I'm entirely unable to offer a qualified opinion. Closed source libraries, as the main, is an immediate turn off. That's entirely new information, to me at least.

LOL For what it's worth, my suggestion would be to evaluate based on quality of the results and not the source. However, this is Voat and that suggestion usually goes over about as well as a fart in church.

Yeah, my company used to have some products that targeted the Microsoft ecosystem, so I've used their dev programs - just not for years. I've been retired for a bit over a decade and hired actual good programmers much earlier. I'm a mathematician, not a programmer. I kind of suck at programming, even though I keep up with the developments and stuff piques my interest.

As in, you don't even want me programming a Hello World. No, not in any language - except maybe Perl. I love me some Perl!

Yeah, my own hired programmers eventually told me that I was no longer allowed to make any commits to production, or test, without review. In fact, they'd prefer it if I just stopped trying to help. So, I listened, because that's what I hired them for. It was a bit tough to let my own code base go, but it was a good idea. Yup... I'm that bad.

I've used it a few times. I'm actually impressed. I'm a pretty happy Linux user, but I don't mind VS Code. I usually don't do much coding, as I'm retired. So, normally I'll just use a plain text editor like gedit. I had to try GS Code to see what the excitement was and I came away impressed.

Yeah, I saw. Cortisone sucks.

Not very well, but yes. The link isn't about me, however.

This thread (and this comment) may help add to this thread:

https://voat.co/v/technology/2356996/11717420

They were both from today and I was submitter for both. Some others threw in some stories, as well. You can also flip back through my profile comments and see some of them. I was prolific today and I was pretty verbose for many of my comments.

Yeah, 20 goes south of Dallas but its not far south. I've always taken 20 and taken 695(?) which brings you up into Dallas's proper. I've only come in on 30 when I was coming from the west.

That kind of narrows down where you live. ;-)

I've been on every bit of that road. I haven't been on 30 in a while, though. Not since, probably, 2007. I thought it went north of Dallas? 20 comes in south of Dallas, as I recall. I'm so not gonna get up and google this. LOL

Do you just haul ass across I-20?

Five hours to get to work?

I don't like puns, not one bit!

I also love me some Perl! When I finally do tell you my story about ruining the Internet, it is centered around Perl. It's long and I'm on a tablet right now. I'm in bed. It was a long night last night and I got shit for sleep.

I actually kind of like PHP. It's quick, easy, and there's a ton of resources available.

Now that I know you are into coding, I'll make a note to tell you the story of when I wrote the most insecure web software ever - and how it changed the 'net in ways that are still felt today.

However, I already typed a few stories for this thread:

https://voat.co/v/programming/2356909

I wrote a bit for this thread, but it's not a very good story:

https://voat.co/v/technology/2356996

LOL You can catalogue 'em and sell 'em after I die!

I submit PHP and JavaScript links just for the curmudgeon responses. I call 'em that, too. I call them curmudgeons, pretty much every day.

Once, we were the kids the old people complained about. Surely, it's different this time. ;-)

LOL Bitching? No, it's funny. Y'all crack me up.

I post submissions to this sub, pretty much every day. Usually, I do it for the curmudgeon responses. They make me giggle. On a good day, they'll argue about which programming language sucks the most. This amuses me far more than it should.

Here too:

https://voat.co/v/VoatStatistics/2357415

You guys make me giggle.

I may have written one of the first open source video games, but we didn't call it that.

I wrote a game called SkiDownhillFaster. I admit, I'm not very good with names. You used the letters to control your character - which was the letter Y. You had to slalom your way down by going through the gates. You got points depending on how quick you went and by how many gates you went through. Your goal was the least number of points. Pressing the down letter made you move faster and up made you move slower. There was initially no randomness to it, or anything.

It then went around the university and the code was there with it. People added randomness, obstacles like trees, different levels, and even wrote it in several other BASICs, adding support for things like color and sound. So, you had all these MIT geeks playing a game called SkiDownhillFaster and hacking at it to add new features. It was sort of popular for a period of several months. For all I know, someone still has a copy.

But, this was back in maybe 1982 or 1983?

We did use abbreviations back then, and even emoticons, but I don't recall seeing "LOL" until 90s usenet. It may have been on the BBSes, but most of my online time was spent on the Internet that wasn't actually public, back then. It was just academia, government, and some businesses that made their research available.

The businesses didn't have an online business presence, as it hadn't been opened up for commercial business back then. You could connect to companies like DEC, IBM, Intel, etc., but you had to dial into their MODEM pool directly - though all three also had research arms which did have addressable domains on the Internet.

Yeah, back then it wasn't open to the public and it wasn't commercial. There were BBSes and other networks you could dial into, such as AOL and CompuServe. Those weren't necessarily interconnected and they shared only a subset of resources. However, my time was largely spent on the academic side. I was even able to dial into the university.

My first MODEM (MOdulate and DEModulate), that I owned personally, was a cradle MODEM - an acoustic coupler. You put the phone's handset down inside of it. It was either a 900 or a 1200 baud deal, and I don't recall which. Back then, it was like $4/min to call CompServe on the 1200 baud MODEM pool and like $1/min to call the 900 baud lines. You could call regular BBSes for just the cost of the phone call, or you could 'phreak' and call for nothing.

My first MODEM at home, that was not mine, was equipment that I'd signed out from the lab and was a Hughes critter. It was a strange, large, heavy box - black in color, as I recall. It was 300 baud, I do believe. Not to worry, there weren't a whole lot of graphics to download.

Mostly. BBSes were pirated 'warez', phreaking information, games that didn't work, the earliest viruses and trojans, people swapping lies on forums, a form of messaging like email is today - some being email that may take quite some time to reach their destination, and porn in .gif or ASCII format. Yes, ASCII porn existed. There were local hacking and warez groups, that were mostly just annoying, ineffectual kids who were often accused of committing major crimes - but seldom did, other than a few who actually did commit crimes. Most crimes were simply people being curious and looking around to learn how things worked.

It was pretty neat, as you could also learn some systems that you could dial into (not the same as the Internet) and have fun. Like, you could dial into a company or bank or something. Usually, it was just a menu and you might be able to find their messaging system - or maybe change the schedule that their lights came on. It wasn't nuclear launch codes or controlling banks. Security was pretty basic back then.

I can probably go on, if you're interested. I'm sure other people have written it better than I have, however. I was a math student and used computers because I had to. I wasn't into computer science and only programmed because I had go. Truth be told, I pretty much hated computers back then. They pretty much sucked. They were difficult to use, slow, quirky, not powerful enough, and not very user friendly to a non-hacker. Computers and I are old enemies, who have only fairly recently become tolerant of each other. I pretty much hated them until maybe 2003. My first computer usage was in 1971 or 1972.

It's a default sub and on the top of the page with the default user settings.

Yeah, but they were expensive, slow, and pretty limited as compared to today's devices.

At one point, my computer (with all the peripherals) was more expensive than my new car. Yes, the car was brand new.

LOL I can do advanced math (well, I could) with BASIC - and all the added complexity that added. Bitches don't know 'bout my BASIC skills!

I was going to put this in v/learnprogramming, but it's maybe a bit advanced for that.

Or we should be... The maker and hacker communities really seem like they should be more popular, in my estimation. Shit, compilers are even free today!

Needs a space and a ;

10 ? "PENIS ";

That will print it over and over again, filling the whole line instead of just a single column of one word per line. Also, those bytes are important. ? is the same as PRINT in most BASICs, as far as I recall.

That is true, I do not understand such.

Earlier today, someone was seriously claiming that the moon was a hoax and a conspiracy.

I no longer know what to believe. For all I know, you're serious about your beliefs. I don't even know.

I do miss Time Cube guy. They cracked me up.

WTF did I just watch?

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works?!?

About all I can do, without a refresher and a lot of Google, is some PHP and Perl - maybe a bit of bash. I could bang out a hello world in C and C++, without having to reference anything. I can possibly do some Python without too much reference work - but it's been ages since I've used it.

It's not like riding a bicycle, in my experience.

Methinks it's only cheating if they hadn't said "top" right in the title?

Not curmudgeon-y enough. Go back and try again!

Maybe, "All of them BUT [C++, C#, or F#]." Or, maybe, "Real programmers only use assembly!"

Sheesh... I have expectations, you know!

Note: I found said link (I may have actually submitted this same link before, but not in ages) at this site:

https://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/2018/01/github-giveth-wikipedia-taketh-away.html

The link is interesting, in and of itself, but I wanted to submit this resource as it's a very nice collection of free programming books. I also wasn't really sure where the above link should go and if it would be in a sub that's popular enough for people to actually notice the buried gem of a link within it.

So, here you go.

G'day, curmudgeons!

LOL I mean for formatting. If you use both, I am going to hunt you down and have sex with your barely legal daughter.

Wait, nevermind. No woman would ever breed with someone like that!

Excellent. I'm glad you will get good use from the link. Math, I've got covered. However, I am an odd duck in that I actually kind of hate programming. I've done it - lots of it. I just don't like it.

Still, it's great that it's a source that you'll get enjoyment from. I absolutely wish I could vote your reply up more than once.

Sweet! Thanks!

Curiously - one of those links is highlighted in a different color, which means I've recently been there. (The Langrange multiplier link.)

Your answer mostly gives it some more meaning. By itself, it was really hard to figure out what the fuck he was on about. I figured I'd better make it clear that this was a link I knew nothing about.

Shit, I understand Lambda Calculus and I don't understand this. I'm kind of hoping someone comes along and explains it like i'm five.

No, that debate still rages. I like to point out that tabs can be made to appear however you want with your editor!

The only ones that truly need gassing are those who mix the two together. If you mix tabs and spaces together for formatting, you should be beaten with a rusty tire iron until dead.

Hmm... That wasn't nearly curmudgeon-y enough.

I'm disappointed! ;-)

Seriously, the curmudgeon responses I sometimes get in this sub crack me up. It sometimes reminds me of Slashdot. They motivate me and sometimes I submit stuff just so I can see the curmudgeons come out and complain. I may be the only person who looks back fondly on the vim vs. emacs wars. I miss those debates.

LOL Well, you've said it now - and that's what is important.

Sort by new, they go back six or eight weeks. I submit a few links every day, usually. I sometimes take weekends off.

See v/AI where I post a fuckton of stuff about AI/ML/NNs/etc. I've been dumping content in that sub for about a month and a half now, so sorting by new will help. There's a few submissions that I add comments to, in parenthesis, to point out my favorites or what are large collections of resources. I can poke through, but it's probably best if you pick what you want. I've submitted tons of the stuff.

You win my Cumudgeon Response of the Day Award.