hm, that sounds actually cool

to be fair I hate Java so much that that is one reason I don't develop for Android. Java has a culture of verbosity, of shit like SomeThingVeryFuckingLong someThingVeryFuckingLong := new SomethingVeryFuckingLong(); aargh

What do you mean by app development? Android apps are Java.

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Want to have a shot at creating games? Unity.

Either I am too old and not kept up, or you are wrong in this, dunno. But AFAIK the truly hard and time consuming part of making a game is making the 3D objects and textures in 3D Studio or Blender. Not the programming. I mean if they start with Unity, without making that 3D or even 2D stuff that will be actually visible on the screen, what will their game consist of? Maybe I am wrong, maybe Unity has some built in stuff already...

This is what keeps me out from game dev. I can program all right and have some good ideas. But no way in hell could I draw and texture a 3D human or say weapons in 3D Studio or Blender without it looking like a retarded ass kindergarten homework. I am no visual artist at all, not by long shot. I can't even handwrite without it looking like something straight out of the autist tard ward.

In my age the difficulty of learning programming was due to the idiosyncrazies of the programming language itself, say, Turbo Pascal. Today Python is just too easy. I agree with you that something should be hard because we need to filter for IQ, because low IQ people even when they can program on a basic level will ultimately fail when they have to design a larger application.

And what the fuck is hard even in downloading and installing Komodo ActivePython then either just using their editor or one of the gazillion Python IDEs. And in this case Linux is even easier, they don't have have to learn the magic scary command line (lol), there are graphical package managers, search for python, click on something that looks like a python distro, click on install, same for some good editor, done. It is so easy it is not even a good IQ filter. It is about as hard as installing Skyrim or Fallout 4 mods. So all it proves the future programmer has at least as much technical aptitude as any random faggot capable of installing the prerequisite for Loverslab mods because they want to fap at dickgirl orcs in Skyrim. Not a very high obstacle to jump.