I bet you wanted to rant about being a lunatic anti swift right-wing Maga shooter. I wish I could find all those comments and ask them how much TDS mental illness do the suffer from. The number of people on reddit jumping to that conclusion was disgusting, and to turn out, it was two young thugs fighting and then shooting. Yeah, what we need is gun control, not tougher criminal justice sentences

No, I was saying I traveled the East Coast while you still haven't touched grass

Still haven't left the basement. I literally have been to Boston to Baltimore to FL, and you still have not touched grass. What your mom makes for din din Mac and cheese with hot dogs. I bet she brings you a plate so you can stay on reddit, doesn't she The reason you're a troll I showed you how the federal government started a D&I program that was allowing unqualified people to become atc. Your response is that it's not happening anymore. You can not admit what the faa did was wrong, and its sole purpose was to pick colored, gay or Trans candidates over those who had certifications, so what's the point . Any evidence I've shown is not good enough. Just Today I hear a argument with atc on the radio. My captains response was, " D&I's finest hire may be in a little trouble," and he made a report just because we heard it. I live this every day it's an issue. I really do not care what your viewpoints are. But I am 100% sure if you were on a flight that almost collided with another aircraft from incompetent atc, you would care. The u.s hasn't had a large fatal plane crash or a wide body crash in an amazing amount of time, but it's coming, and it will be the result of the faa enacting policies like "Be atc"

This may be the most woke comment I've ever seen on reddit. No context, nothing educated, to add just 100% liberal reddit wokeism at its finest. Your life my suck so much to be this woke on reddit

It's not a lie. My wife is 100% more fun than I am.

My wife said the game sucked so it must have. I didn't watch it because I can't stand Mahomes or kelsey . I have more important things to do than watch man sized d bags play football

I'm saying go tough grass as In leave your parents' basement and get out in the world. You're a troll. The examples people have sent me show you do nothing but troll people. Finally, if you agree what the faa did was in the best interest of safety well, then what's the point in talking to you. I have more important ways to spend my time

I'm not losing my shit m typical reddit troll. I'm not educated enough in a subject but I'm woke so let's make a comment about grammar. Its.2024 on reddit go touch grass. Who gives a shit about run on sentences. And yes I've have over 5 people pm me just to say your a troll. Clearly you are

What's the point man you're a troll you will never accept the this program was not fair and no POC still have to do every hour of flight training the only difference is they use to be guaranteed a job with the airlines but not anymore pilots are hired on how good they color does not help anymore

So you're just what I thought. A snowflake with TDS who spends his day on reddit and reads comics in your parents basement

You realize the government lost so it does exactly what I wanted to prove my point. Clearly you are just a woke liberal that even when someone proves D&I is bad for all people not just one group your can not accept it. You won't say what they did was wrong so Clearly being woke and defending liberal political points is more important than the truth. One Last point go touch grass, touch grass ,touch grass. I've never received some many messages about someone being a troll as I have with you. So go touch grass and maybe you will understand. I should have know someone on reddit would only turn out to be woke scum who lives in their mothers basement at 40

So it's a rant when I literally copy and pasted from the complaint from the class action lawsuit. It's funny my rant shows d&I programs literally sole intent was to hurt only group to help another so your fine with that. My rant showed the FAA was cherry picking candidates based on color I guess your fine with that. My rant proved the faa was picking the least qualified candidates Over those who finished the college program I guess your are fine with that. And lastly it prove that the faa was picking candidates that wouldn't have been qualified under the old system over candidates that went to the program the faa started and those candidates were punished because of that. I guess your fine knowing at any moment unqualified atc,s could cause a catastrophic crash. But hey they took some questioning off so it's ok now

But that's what it's doing. The faa was sued for just that. Unemployed colored candidates received more more points than candidates who went to college and had and atc certification. The more points the better the chances of passing to the next phase. Active pilots would received 2 points for being a pilot but a colored person who was bad at science got 10. I'm not macking it up the FAA was sued and lost over this they changed the questionnaire but it still rewards more points to colored, gay or Trans candidates

Do more research 2022 was the most recent changes. They still use the point system and the ASTA still has questions about employment and school subject with more points being awarded to unemployed. You are cherry picking points to say who care it's changed. Was this right to do in the first place. Was this fair to people who went to college and finished the atc program. Funny you have no issue with the way the test penalized those candidates. Leads me to believe you must have never applied your self and been screwed because of a program like this. I had to do the same process every other America pilot had to complete with 1500hrs and multiple years or training to become a pilot if someone could bypass all that and be hired because of color is that fair

Better look again 2022 was the most recent changes and the points still exist. The faa was sued and it was no longer allowed to be a take home queationaire. The main issue is the hires that made it thru with the original queationaire are responsible for the increasing incidents. Clearly you didn't not bother to read what I wrote because I said there was changes. It's funny your only argument is oh they stopped this not that it's wrong and unfair

But what you just makes no sense. The old system the most qualified person got the job. With D&I that is no longer the case and candidates are awarded for being of color, gay ,Trans etc and it's no longer about who is most qualified

I'll explain as it pertains to the faa and atc .During the Obama administration, the FAA moved to ‘off the street’ hiring with diversity as a criteria, passing over graduates of FAA-approved university air traffic control programs.The FAA launched the Collegiate Training Initiative in 1997, working with colleges and universities to offer air traffic control degrees, and making their graduates the primary source for hiring controllers. This trumped the previous requirement of a high school degree and three years of (unrelated) work experience. In 2005 the FAA Inspector General recommended adding coursework to these schools to reduce training time at the FAA’s academy. The FAA didn’t do this, and Congress directed a study of the move in agency’s 2012 reauthorizatio Instead, during the Obama administration, the FAA started an Air Traffic Controller Recruitment Campaign which bypassed graduates. A decision made by the FAA, and not by the Air Traffic Organization, meant that both high school graduates and those with air traffic control degrees had to apply through the same program and pass both the standard aptitude test for controllers and a biographical test. This change had the effect of bypassing hundreds of controller graduates. Facing pressure to diversify an overwhelmingly white workforce, the FAA began using a biographical test as a first screen of candidates. Meanwhile, minority candidates were fed “buzz words” to bump their resumes up to top priority. Apparently saying your worst subject in school was science served as a golden ticket. Correct answers to the take-home test to groups who fit the diversity the FAA was after. a class action lawsuit brought by Collegiate Training Initiative students who got passed over has uncovered some pretty bad hiring practices at the FAA. So here's what the questionnaire includes: as of 2022 A question as to what your worst subject was in school. There were several options, including science, math, and a few others. The BEST answer for you to give was that "Science" was your WORST subject. 10 points for that answer. More points is better. A question about how many suggestions you had made to your employer in the last 3 years. The BEST answer (10 points) was that you were not employed in the last 3 years and therefore made no suggestions. (In other words, it's a disguised question designed to determine whether you have been employed in the last 3 years, and you get 10 points if you have not been.) In another question: 10 points for having no relevant experience, 4 points for having ATC experience, 2 points for being a pilot. In short, it's a questionnaire designed to ask questions that technically are permissible, in order to determine information that it is illegal to ask directly in screening: what's your race or ethnic background. To dumb it down points are given to candidates. Pilots or college graduates of the FAA program are given 2 points per question but a person of color and high school graduates get 10 points. A white person bad a science would not get the same amount of points as a colored person who was bad a science. A white person who played sports did not receive receive points where. Color or gay person who did not play sports would get points. The more points a candidate has the better the chances are to getting hired and trained. The FAA has since changed the questionnaire in 2022 the point value is still used and pilots or graduates of the college ATC Academy started by the FAA do not have a better chance than someone with just a diploma. The issue is coming to ahead now with increasing runway incursions and mid air collisions caused by atc not doing their job. Last year there was 4 very close calls with planes being less that 200ft apart from a collision. The other problem is the amount of tax payer money being used to catch applicants up to those who payed for college to earn a certification from the atc academy and not having the employees stay long enough to recoup the cost of training. Since 2019 the data show more pilot reported atc deviations( pilot reporting atc because of unsafe conditions created by atc or for a hostile exchanges)

Clearly, it's the area that wokism and most liberals wish existed, but auto correct must have changed it

Typical woke redditor linked a video that shows every argument I have and that data but woke redditors just have them mentality that if I don't like it, then it's false. Are you pilots? Are you paying attention to the clear rise in incidents involving atc mishaps. Has your life been at risk from an air traffic controller that would never have been qualified to be one until D&I started I bet you would take it more seriously if you had a close call or it affected your life everyday. Do you as a pilot it's harder for me to become an air traffic controller than someone who has no experience but is of color and didn't participate in sports who is not good a science. The way the Faa has the test set up a pilot on gets 2 points, and someone with atc experience gets 1 but a colored/gay person who has zero aviation experience that only graduated high school gets 10 for color 10 for high school graduate. The candidate with the most points gets moved to the next test, so please argue that makes sense. I would love to see you try. The boy at the flight club I belonged to couldn't get hired as an atc when he has multiple certifications, has been doing virtual atc for 10 years, and graduated college and holds a private pilot license because he is not gay and has a degree now how is that fair. I work for a major air carrier, and a union representative sends out statistics about D&I it's clear it does not work in all fields. It may work in sales or marketing, teaching, but I'm sorry color should not qualify a person over a person with actually experience

There are plenty out there that you clearly didn't watch any of the videos I linked. The first one shows the increase in serious atc mishaps since the THE FAA started the programs. You have no data saying it's beneficial, so like I said, time is proving my point, not yours. It's just a matter of time until a fatal incident occurs and it's a D&I atc that caused it. I find it funny that your only argument is I dont believe you when I have shown you 3 examples that support my argument, but you are so woke you can not take the time to watch them. As someone who interacts with atc and spends time talking to other pilots, it's a serious concern that people lives are at risk being woke won't stop that

It's funny i should of commented what your response would havs been and i would have nailed it. data doesn't change no matter who is telling it to you. Your response is the typical woke reddit response. If CNN would actually report on it, then they could be used as a source. And do you actually think I'm going to share the email a major u.s airline sent about this or the email the union sent to all pilots just to prove a point. Time will prove what I'm telling you, just like time has shown how wokeism will destroy a company or time has proven that being a sanctuary city will destroy that city. You may think you're right just because reddit echos how your feelings but reddit is just a woke liberal breeding ground.

Did I not specifically say just that. Clearly, you're the dumb ass who can not read. Everyone on reddit seems to think d&I means blacks only. But Clearly your on reddit and are a woke liberal so you must be smarter than I am.

It's funny how reddit works... if the woke liberals had their 6 is now the world would work. Also, freedom of speech is not a thing in the reddit world

The link to the article is behind a paywall for AOPA and aviation mag, but these videos also show the data. Now I know they are more conservative personalities, but honestly, msnbc and CNN will never cover this. I'm a pilot. The unions fought this and have made multiple memos about the data with the atc since the faa started this. Watch the first video and tell me you truly don't believe this and don't just say it's not true because of the sources it's 2024 we all know new can not be trusted but the data doesn't lie https://youtu.be/6byj8jfZYRA?si=NwLIXB2j8I36I4P2 https://youtu.be/rjgUMBsAYBY?si=MuKs1fSd2B5P_qQV https://youtu.be/0KEIITEEN0k?si=ihrzui3ed0bh7I1i

It's clear you're just too uneducated to see the point I am making. Yes, they are lower quality because they would never have been qualified to hold that position until the qualifications were lowered to allow for a more diverse pool of candidates. That has nothing to do with race, sex or religion. It's like saying only people who went to college and have a masters degree could apply for the Job before d&I. With the D&I now people with a high school equivalent could apply. Do you really think that's fair plus now the company has to spend more money on training a person for a job they are not qualified to hold 10 years ago. Again, this is an example only, but people who are racist like you only jump to one conclusion. Try to find one company that started d&I for Blacks only, but in your mind, anyone who says d&I is bad for the company and the results speak for themselves is against blacks and racist. In fact, the colored people who actually have the education and knowledge and went to school are hurt just as much by d&I as everyone else

Also, can I say this my high school girlfriend was Spanish. The girl I dated 2 of the 3 years of school was half African American, The woman I almost married was black and my wife is mexican, so when you say I'm racist I have to laugh. I do not think i should have to detail my private life to show you I'm far from being a bigot or racist but reddit always believes that if someone doesn't think like me, they are racist. In my face, I would have an African American wife right now if the world didn't decide her life was going to be cut short. I take offense to the fact that you group me as a racist because I'm smart enough to see the issue with d&I hiring I'm some fields of work. Clearly, you're racist and you must not really realize how racist you are. You assumed I'm white and would never care about people of color when my whole life I've spent loving or falling in love not based on color but on who the person is.

Why does d&I only mean black to racist can you explain that to me because, to me, it means people of all color, sex, sexuality and beliefs are in no part of d&I? Does it say blacks only but to racist on reddit it sure does

And I'm not saying they are lower quality. I'm saying that when you allow people to apply, that would not meet the standards to apply before they changed the requirements to allow for D&I hiring you get a pool of candidates that cost more for training and in the end the results speek for themselves. The color of your skin doesn't mean you can't perform as well as other colors there is no link saying that but picking employees based solely on D&I allows for people that may not be good enough for the job no matter the color of their skin or sexuality.

Internal memorandums detailed lowering the requirements and aptitude testing to ensure candidates could be eligible to be hired based solely on the diversification needs of the company. They lowered the standards to allow a larger candidate pool and then hired not on skill or how competent the person would be for the position but based more on being able to hired based on gender ,race, or belief. Look, it's black and white before to become an air traffic controller. The person would have to go thru a rigorous application process, proving they could cope with the environment and would be competent in the position one allowed the applicant would start at lower, less populated airports. Since the FAA decided to start D&I hires, the test was changed and literally has questions that a 5th grade student would know and took any questions that could lower the candidate pool out. What has been the result, a large increase in major runway incursions, increased collision alerts, and more pilot reported atc deviations. They explicitly stated that hiring and training a person will not necessarily bring that person up to the standards needed. You know, as well as I do, that not everyone can hold certain jobs not because of color or sexuality but because not everyone has the same level of mental competence. As far as Boeing, they are finding out the same thing, and you can not train a person to hold a position that was hired based solely D&I and expect that person to perform as well as a person who has the knowledge and skill from previous work experience. As a pilot I have seen multiple people who want to be a pilot but have to give up because the skills needed do not care about who you are flying a aircraft is a huge responsibility and not everyone can perform or gain the knowledge and skill needed . Now, are you telling me my company should hire a pilot based on the color of the skin, not how well they can perform well guess what? That's what they are tired of,and they have since stopped the d&I hiring. Wonder why well the number of candidates that did not meet the requirements and the amount of money they spent trying was too costly and it's a very large, well-known domestic carrier. I've been told they even stopped ground crew D&I hires because of the increase in safety violations and reported violations of company procedures. I'm not saying they fired or stopped hiring colored, Trans, or says they stopped hiring people who were clearly not qualified but was hired anyway

You're just a racist liberal who believes anyone who doesn't think just like you is the issue. People like you will never admit that hiring practices based on d&I and not skill hurts every group of color. Indians have the highest percentage of college education citizens, but they may not get a job in America because of d&I. The job may go to the less qualified candidates that fit the diversity the company needs or wants. D&I does not favor African Americans, the intention was to help all people, Trans, colored, poor, rich, gay , straight, white,

Wow, how racist are you that d&I means that to you. I guess you forget everyone else. d&I was meant to help but only hurt. The fact that you argue a less qualified person being hired because of ethnic group rather than hiring a qualified skilled person isn't a bad model to follow shows you are racist and fail to educate yourself

So I never mentioned race you did if d&I means race to you than you're the racist. Why am I racist because hiring someone because of color instead of on skill results in issues? in fact, hiring based just on color was called racism until it favored certain groups over others. It's funny you're so racist that you believe your smart

Internal memos have shown that d&I has resulted in more incompetent workers, resulting in more defects. The faa d&I has lowered the qualifications needed to become an air traffic controller. The number of near misses and runway incursions has increased since the d&I hires have taken to the towers the data does not lie. There are numerous examples that show that hiding who someone is not based on skills will lead to issues

The world is slowly learning. D&I is no good. Just look at what's going on at Boeing and with air traffic controllers. They made it about who you are, not the knowledge or skill you have, and now we have planes with a lot of issues and we are seeing planes almost land on each other with almost catastrophic outcomes the nfl and other business will learn the hard way.