It must be hard being part potato >Really go fucking do some of your own research on the central park five instead of making others do it for you Whats with you retards insisting on having a conversation with some strawman? I cant stand the collage whiners who cry about cultural appropriation and white guilt and shit like that, I was a member of the_donald and considering voting for trump up till he chose Pence as his VP. His proposed tax cuts will directly benefit him, his strong arming foreign governments into pushing through his construction projects are another. I'm a wealthy New Yorker I think I have more insight into Trump being a shitty person than some fucking fin.

I told you what to fucking look up. Why should I waste my time on self proclaimed white trash whose gullible enough to still think Trump ran to make America a better place and not enrich himself. I'm assuming you live in a rural red state I'm sure you'll be happy when unfettered industry destroys your states natural beauty.

Its not my job to use Google for you

Really go fucking do some of your own research on the central park five instead of making others do it for you. You make jokes with your friends about sexually assualting women? How many random women came forward saying he did what he's on record saying he's done?

Thats the thing you probably are racist trash if you're constantly making racist jokes. https://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/07/30/nyregion/NYTRUMPweb2/NYTRUMPweb2-blog427.jpg

Aww thats cute you never learned that context matters in the English language. For example Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’ve got a knife, they let you do it. You can do anything.” “Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.” And yes he did call for the death of five innocent boys without a trial.

Wow I can't believe I met someone who doesn't understand the word moral People who call for the public lynching of 5 innocent boys don't have good morals. People who don't pay their contractors don't have good morals People who commit sexual assault don't have good morals

>Because that is what has been driving Donald Trump since way back before even considering politics: a high sense of Beauty and morals. You gave me a good laugh mate.

That's funny I could have sworn I saw Trump in the white house with the Saudis, and look at that hes visiting them right now.

Cops and seals are tazed and waterboarded multiple times probably daily over the course of weeks months or years? Shocking.my heart goes out to them.

South American prisons and ones like that sure. Most US ones aren't. And the mental problems from Us prison and weeks of waterboarding are going to be incomparable. I don't take issue with holding prisoners of war in confinement I have issues with causing them pain as a means to extract information.

Based on what your saying that was the US's definition of torture > since torture is when the body experiences prolonged pain (mental or physical) after the completion of the tortue. And yeah inhumane prison systems should fall under that definition.

In cages yeah that's fucking inhumane. In a small relatively clean concrete room with a canvas cot seams fucking reasonable for the beacon of liberty that the United states is supposed to be.

>Repeatedly inducing the sensation of drowning someone over weeks is going to cause long term mental health issues. You think we should use harsher methods than inducing the sensation of drowning to extract information over the course of weeks, you're advocating our country resort to the International definition of torture.

> that its not an argument.but an opinion. I told you why I dont believe it is.tortue The rest of the world thinks it is. Repeatedly drowning someone over weeks is going to cause long term mental health issues. You think we should use harsher methods than drowning to extract information over the course of weeks, you're advocating our country resort to the International definition of torture.

>Even by our definition repeatedly waterboarding someone is torture. Yet you are supporting even harsher measures be taken.

No I apparently have the humanity and critical thinking skills to be able to understand the difference between the rest of the world saying this act is a human rights violation and the rest of the world saying owning another human is okay.

> Even by our definition repeatedly waterboarding someone is torture. Yet you are supporting even harsher measures be taken. Regardless you cant use if all your friends jump off a bridge to advocate torture. Then go around and say no but if everyone said slavery was okay would you do that? No if everyone said slavery was okay I wouldn't advocate it in the US.

You are arguing for torture, rest of the world thinks that this act of causing pain to gain information constitutes torture. Even by our definition repeatedly waterboarding someone is torture. Yet you are supporting even harsher measures be taken.

Your argument is you're not an extremist for advocating torture.

Yeah your reasoning is insane. We should hold America to a higher standard than the rest of the world. Your advocating something civilized society has deemed taboo, you're an extremist.

Right well the rest of the civilized world views our actions as torture. We should hold our country to higher standards than a bunch of 8th century savages.

Your definition of torture is the US's yes? When we waterboard people I'm guessing we don't just stop if the first session doesn't yeald results.

All these definitions for torture are US ones correct? Your saying each individual session isn't protracted enough correct? Is it a one and done thing? I've almost drowned twice in my life and it was unpleasant but It wasn't the worst thing I could imagine. If I had to experience people bringing me to the brink of drowning multiple times a session for multiple sessions over the course of a few weeks, then yeah I think It would cause ptsd.

>in order to make your statement true you even had to add this in to help your case. take away your conditions. your dirty cold room in guantamo, being locked up, cold temps. being captured would cause PTSD

Fine repeatedly drowned in a cushy ass room full of puppies.

Right being repeatedly drowned in some dirty ass room in Guantanamo couldn't possible be a source of ptsd.

Have you been water boarded? How do you know you don't experience mental anguish? Those tough right wing newscaster I've seen waterboarded sure make it seem mentally taxing. Regardless Trump still says he wants to bring back worse than waterboarding.

Yes it is. And good thing Trump said he was going to bring back a whole lot worse than waterboarding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upnc_y1cKEk

Well you supported someone who advocates torture so that's a good start.

yeah they believe in a backwards archaic religion what's you're excuse