I’ve generally enjoyed and agreed with the principles of the shows and movies… that would actually make me a conservative if you two are right. So either you are wrong and I’m not “leftist”, or the values of the show are mostly liberal, and… you are wrong. Ipso facto. You kinda walked right into that one

Yeah, Kirk also had the *first interracial kiss on national television*, I mean that’s… pretty woke dude. Your argument that Star Trek is somehow more conservative than liberal in philosophy is just completely outweighed by evidence unless you cherry-pick super hard. Idk maybe I am misunderstanding your argument here.

I mean, that person is right, Roddenberry himself said that TNG was the closest to his vision, and I find nothing conservative about it… the show celebrates diversity, secularism, intellectualism, academia, even progressive sexuality… respecting other cultures that have different views than your own and exhausting every other peaceful solution before violence… I’m not hating on conservatives but these are not what I would consider conservative values