They're already losing developers, not just new generations. Once they committed to making Windows an advertising platform and a series of fuckups and fuck you's to developers they can go fuck themselves. Happy on linux now after years of career on Microsoft, now just using Windows 10 for more than a few minutes makes me sick.
Looking back at LinkedIn, Skype and Windows 10, they will definately fuck it up. If you did not have migrated your project yet then your project will be dead soon.
Don't forget windows phone, MSN smart watch/SPOT, Tablet PC, Zune, Windows RT, Windows Live Mesh, .NET MicroFramework, Band, Reader... Though those are all in a specific vein, they are complete fuckups of varying magnitude.
Did you ever see the prototype tablet they made with 2 screens? I would have killed for one and they discontinued it for some reason but other than that fuck anything else they made they deserve to fail
Yeah, Courier, IIRC. They killed it to focus on making windows more monolithic, and lost a great executive in the deal. Definitely a big fuckup, but it's not in the theme I was following.
Microsoft will ‘lose developers for a generation’ if it stuffs up GitHub, says future CEO • The Register
'But with the acquisition still months away from closing, just what Microsoft will do and how developers will react remains open to speculation. '
'Asked if Microsoft plans to do anything to the Atom text editor, given that Redmond’s Visual Studio Code is a competitor, Friedman said “we want developers to use any editor they prefer with GitHub. '
' Then, we’ll look at what alternatives are available, and importantly, the costs, benefits, and risks of each option.” ®'
'That means no ads in public repos, because Friedman said Sourceforge became “a swamp of banner ads and pop ups and delayed downloads to expose users to more ads”. ', "He added that “GitHub's clean interface and developer-centric approach can be seen in part as a reaction against Sourceforge” and suggested GitHub’s ascendency shows a no-ads approach has proven the correct approach."
“We are buying GitHub because we like GitHub; our plan is to continue to invest in the GitHub roadmap, and make GitHub better at being GitHub,” Friedman wrote.
Such a worthless statement. If you like something, you shouldn't demand to own it, you should partner with it. Microsoft has fucked itself and github over with this acquisition.
Only bad and negative press can come from future events of any failures at github, and it will be blamed on the microsoft direction. Especially anything to do with privacy. That is the one thing that will make not only developers take notice and turn away, but consumers and customers as well.
Depends which side of the screen you work on. You could piece meal various components together and pretend open source is always good. Or you could play with the big boys and pay to have Ajit work for you without having to deal with all kinds of one off solutions and many that over lap.
nobody. It was and will never be profitable, and unlike youtube it's not accessible. And it's infested with SJW's so they will end up chasing their tails on things that don't matter.
Totally forgot about Atom because VSC blew passed it almost 2 years ago. I can see these 2 merged in the near future.
Visual Studio is supposed to be some great thing ... I installed it and never used it. Blah! Sure it has a few good debugging features but I don’t work that way.
I work with Visual studio for more than a decade and it really is the best too to develop in. With the best tool I mean, I am very productive in outputting professional results in a very short time.
But with Visual Studio 2017 I see a disturbing trend that they output updates after updates after updates after updates to a point where no one in the developers team has the same Visual Studio 2017 anymore. The end result will be projects that starts to become more and more deteriorated and end up into failure after failure.
Yeah, so much more painful than any Oracle,mysql, sqlsever, or postgres tool. Are you retarded? It's infinitely better than any of those options.
The fact you don't like intellij for development tasks probably means you are a fag that thinks you are ultra productive in VI meanwhile everyone around you is accomplishing more.
What the fuck are you smoking? You list off a bunch of Databases and then talk about a tool. Oh you must be talking about mS sql management tool.
A dump truck is a powerful tool too! It’s great to drive my kids to school and go to the cleaners in.
Next you go on to IntelliJ and don’t compare it to Visual Studio. Let’s compare apples before talking about oranges.
The Vi/Vim vs mouse orientated text editors arguement is highly flawed to. Funny thing is com users like spaces better than tabs! Retards. 1 key stroke vs 2/4. Their own argument falls apart there. Also, it’s a keyboard vs mouse in reality.
I clearly stated I use VSC (prior was sublime and BBEdit). I didn’t use textmate because BBEdit was still better back then.
IntelliJ products means you like loading a huge app to do what? Debug. Grab a plug-in for sublime/VSC. What else can an IDE like netbeans can do that sublime/VSC can’t? Ah right! Use up a shot load of ram! Shit recently, I don’t even open a terminal anymore, I just click that icon and boom! Built in terminal. So, nope, you pegged me wrong.
Here's the latest report on the developers' salaries by the way. The main factors are still: country and level of experience, things hadn't changed a lot. Anyways it is extremely hard to give any prognosis on IT business, everything is very dynamic and not stable at this market.
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2 u/hammer 01 Jul 2018 07:17
They're already losing developers, not just new generations. Once they committed to making Windows an advertising platform and a series of fuckups and fuck you's to developers they can go fuck themselves. Happy on linux now after years of career on Microsoft, now just using Windows 10 for more than a few minutes makes me sick.
1 u/WhiteMakesRight 15 Jun 2018 20:41
So basically, what he's saying is "Developers, Developers, Developers".
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs
0 u/roznak [OP] 08 Jun 2018 21:28
Looking back at LinkedIn, Skype and Windows 10, they will definately fuck it up. If you did not have migrated your project yet then your project will be dead soon.
0 u/valk2 08 Jun 2018 22:13
Their Diversity CEO was in charge of all those decisions.....
0 u/glassuser 09 Jun 2018 01:03
Don't forget windows phone, MSN smart watch/SPOT, Tablet PC, Zune, Windows RT, Windows Live Mesh, .NET MicroFramework, Band, Reader... Though those are all in a specific vein, they are complete fuckups of varying magnitude.
0 u/Fuckyounigger 09 Jun 2018 01:15
Did you ever see the prototype tablet they made with 2 screens? I would have killed for one and they discontinued it for some reason but other than that fuck anything else they made they deserve to fail
0 u/glassuser 09 Jun 2018 01:31
Yeah, Courier, IIRC. They killed it to focus on making windows more monolithic, and lost a great executive in the deal. Definitely a big fuckup, but it's not in the theme I was following.
0 u/MrKequc 16 Jun 2018 15:30
I'm impressed with the number of large scale fuckups a company that size is able to absorb and still keep running.
0 u/glassuser 16 Jun 2018 17:55
Well they were huge and had a lot of momentum. They used to have ten times the market cap of apple. Now they have one tenth.
0 u/ViperCarbz 09 Jun 2018 02:56
Owned by MS.
0 u/speedisavirus 09 Jun 2018 03:26
Except the part where they fucked up none of those things
0 u/AndrewBlazeIt 08 Jun 2018 21:33
People still use GitHub?
They revealed themselves as colossal faggots back in, like, 2013.
0 u/elcob32 08 Jun 2018 23:19
Business owners in the tech world also seem to be colossal faggots so they do okay.
0 u/speedisavirus 09 Jun 2018 03:27
You are a faggot for saying that
0 u/derram 08 Jun 2018 21:37
https://archive.fo/EK9W3 :
'But with the acquisition still months away from closing, just what Microsoft will do and how developers will react remains open to speculation. '
'Asked if Microsoft plans to do anything to the Atom text editor, given that Redmond’s Visual Studio Code is a competitor, Friedman said “we want developers to use any editor they prefer with GitHub. '
' Then, we’ll look at what alternatives are available, and importantly, the costs, benefits, and risks of each option.” ®'
'That means no ads in public repos, because Friedman said Sourceforge became “a swamp of banner ads and pop ups and delayed downloads to expose users to more ads”. ', "He added that “GitHub's clean interface and developer-centric approach can be seen in part as a reaction against Sourceforge” and suggested GitHub’s ascendency shows a no-ads approach has proven the correct approach."
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0 u/theoldones 08 Jun 2018 21:37
the new gen of game designers here, will be alt-right and be hailing the fourth reich.
0 u/Adminstrater 08 Jun 2018 22:43
Such a worthless statement. If you like something, you shouldn't demand to own it, you should partner with it. Microsoft has fucked itself and github over with this acquisition.
Only bad and negative press can come from future events of any failures at github, and it will be blamed on the microsoft direction. Especially anything to do with privacy. That is the one thing that will make not only developers take notice and turn away, but consumers and customers as well.
0 u/WhiteRonin 09 Jun 2018 00:29
Who should have bought GitHub instead? GitHub was being shopped around so a new owner was pretty inevitable.
0 u/Adminstrater 09 Jun 2018 00:35
It was wrong to put a brand above it's name. People tend to have a distaste for conglomerates. Especially when it comes to microsoft growth.
Unless they have a secret weapon, which I don't know what it could be.
0 u/WhiteRonin 09 Jun 2018 01:03
Depends which side of the screen you work on. You could piece meal various components together and pretend open source is always good. Or you could play with the big boys and pay to have Ajit work for you without having to deal with all kinds of one off solutions and many that over lap.
0 u/malloryquinn 09 Jun 2018 09:21
nobody. It was and will never be profitable, and unlike youtube it's not accessible. And it's infested with SJW's so they will end up chasing their tails on things that don't matter.
0 u/WhiteRonin 09 Jun 2018 00:32
Yeah, I saw that VSTS would be integrated.
Totally forgot about Atom because VSC blew passed it almost 2 years ago. I can see these 2 merged in the near future.
Visual Studio is supposed to be some great thing ... I installed it and never used it. Blah! Sure it has a few good debugging features but I don’t work that way.
0 u/roznak [OP] 09 Jun 2018 00:48
I work with Visual studio for more than a decade and it really is the best too to develop in. With the best tool I mean, I am very productive in outputting professional results in a very short time.
But with Visual Studio 2017 I see a disturbing trend that they output updates after updates after updates after updates to a point where no one in the developers team has the same Visual Studio 2017 anymore. The end result will be projects that starts to become more and more deteriorated and end up into failure after failure.
0 u/WhiteRonin 09 Jun 2018 01:01
I don’t do .net so I just don’t see the appeal to Visual studio. While VSC on the other hand, I love it! It’s pretty too!
SQL management studio sucks. It’s clunky and just a pain to deal with. They should copy Sequel Pro on the Mac.
I tried intelliJ stuff but didn’t like the weight of it.
I like to make fun of MS but I never count them out because they really do have cool stuff every so often.
0 u/speedisavirus 09 Jun 2018 03:29
Yeah, so much more painful than any Oracle,mysql, sqlsever, or postgres tool. Are you retarded? It's infinitely better than any of those options.
The fact you don't like intellij for development tasks probably means you are a fag that thinks you are ultra productive in VI meanwhile everyone around you is accomplishing more.
0 u/WhiteRonin 09 Jun 2018 05:45
What the fuck are you smoking? You list off a bunch of Databases and then talk about a tool. Oh you must be talking about mS sql management tool.
A dump truck is a powerful tool too! It’s great to drive my kids to school and go to the cleaners in.
Next you go on to IntelliJ and don’t compare it to Visual Studio. Let’s compare apples before talking about oranges.
The Vi/Vim vs mouse orientated text editors arguement is highly flawed to. Funny thing is com users like spaces better than tabs! Retards. 1 key stroke vs 2/4. Their own argument falls apart there. Also, it’s a keyboard vs mouse in reality.
I clearly stated I use VSC (prior was sublime and BBEdit). I didn’t use textmate because BBEdit was still better back then.
IntelliJ products means you like loading a huge app to do what? Debug. Grab a plug-in for sublime/VSC. What else can an IDE like netbeans can do that sublime/VSC can’t? Ah right! Use up a shot load of ram! Shit recently, I don’t even open a terminal anymore, I just click that icon and boom! Built in terminal. So, nope, you pegged me wrong.
0 u/MrPim 09 Jun 2018 00:34
That hasn't stopped them, for a generation.
0 u/Pointyball 09 Jun 2018 02:52
Isn't that the point.
0 u/Nekochan11 09 Jun 2018 04:41
GitHub was already dead , it got choked to death by speech codes and all the creativity was strangled out of it.
0 u/jernos201 09 Jun 2018 05:17
Time for a decentralized hosting service and version control system running on IPFS.
0 u/malloryquinn 09 Jun 2018 09:19
a generation? they have already lost 2 generations.
0 u/deenbaines 13 Jun 2018 04:54
Who knows, may be .. I think everything depends on salaries in this case
0 u/samuel999 13 Jun 2018 05:03
Here's the latest report on the developers' salaries by the way. The main factors are still: country and level of experience, things hadn't changed a lot. Anyways it is extremely hard to give any prognosis on IT business, everything is very dynamic and not stable at this market.
0 u/MrKequc 23 Jun 2018 12:41
How could they fuck it up any more than the soy boys currently running Github. Microsoft should buy npm too, or write a replacement flat out.
0 u/SavishSalacious 01 Jul 2018 16:44
What would be nice is if the windows code was put on github so we can fix there stupid bugs for them.