At the end of the day it either works, or it doesn't. Identity politics doesn't come into it. The machine doesn't care about your race, religion, gender, creed, national origin, sexual orientation, or any damned thing else. The computer cares about the code. Nothing more, nothing less.
The annoying thing with coding is that it is a 365.2422/7/24 none stop effort. You eat behind the PC, you drink behind the PC you even take your laptop to the toilet. Blink and a 18 year old replaces your job because he is ahead of you.
The other thing is that 18 year old that just replaced you will be replaced 6 months or 1 year from now because he too becomes obsolete. So the world is creating one giant pile of throwaway developers that will end up in a burn out state and jump from a building.
Now the good news: Those developers that are on top of the food-chain and evolved while other developers gave up or jumped from a building will be the ones that companies need after they burned through the complete population. Those will become the new millionaires.
Some of that is true but it really takes nothing to get hired as a software developer these days.
If you can stand it to stare at a computer screen 6 hours a day 5 days a week, you're on par with half the developers that get hired. And of the ones who don't get hired but interview? Holy shit seriously so much money is wasted interviewing people who don't even know what a loop is. Worse than that once in a while one of them actually gets hired.
Scrum, which is this stupid methodology where basically you're only as good as your worst developer, just exacerbates the problem. Managers think it means they can hire lots of shit developers and it forces them to put their heads together. The software industry is seriously a disaster, it has been for decades.
Scrum is an entire industry, you can hire Scrum "grand dragons" or whatever the fuck, there's books on this stuff. It's like a religion. They come into your company and audit your scrum processes. Companies I worked at that adopted it developed software at the speed of piss because we spent all our fucking time talking.
Scrum is 15 minutes and must stick to just what is being worked on. If a discussion starts about a particular issue then it must be stopped or you end up with what happened to your team.
Other meetings include agile elements like back log grooming and retrospecs.
You worked in a fucked up situation where the tools were used wrongly.
That is not how software works. scrum is the most inefficient system I have ever met. It prevents your good developers function as efficient as they can and having to lower their standard to your worst developer in your team.
Two years I worked in a team where you need 10 people to do exactly the same thing as one developer that does not use scrum. Thanks god they finally realized that it sucked and now we are back in the none-scrum mode and projects suddenly flourish without stress.
Scrum only benefits bad programmers into thinking that they are good. Scrum is like paint by numbers and then think that you created a Michelangelo.
On the contrary we are on a very efficient team only held to a crawling halt by the scrum methodology.
That 15 minute standup meeting is not scrum, that is only 1% of scrum.
And after 2 years all those in favor of scrum have left the projects. We finally have now the time to fix the crap and make it function in record time. Those user stories that is inefficient crap. Three weeks of sprint, and no way to respond fast and fix the thing that took ages. Without the scrum, ask us anything and within half a day or 2 days it is in. That is agile development, not that slow paced scrum sprint.
In the next weeks the very efficient functioning of our team that are now free from scrum will create shock-waves. More production, less bugs, faster development, better improvements, performant code. That is what you get when you use your developers at their peak capacity instead of this crappy use story related that cripples your developers and make them feel unhappy.
We are not restricted to the project manager anymore, we are faster than any project manager.
On the contrary we are following scrum by the book. Everybody had to follow scrum courses.
We had even a personal scrum coach for a very long period. The funny thing is that when he took over to show us how it was done he failed miserably. Hahah
The proof is in the pudding, projects that becomes successful and our team is now producing projects that rocks. And we just started to accelerate. The other scrum teams can't keep track with us :-)
As for the sprint not fixing something now, we’ll what the fuck did you do for QA and UAT?
Seriously, do you guys just deploy and fix production bugs on the fly? Do you developers even consider what happens when your hotfox fucked up other things?
QA and UAT is still there, nothing gets pushed into production untested by other teams. Don't worry.
Without scrum, when we discover issues, or even finds new bugs in the code we can fix them instantly without having to go through an enormous waste of time through the sprints.
With scrum we were forced to put a feature to done even buggy. Without scrum we put a feature done when it is ready and the quality is met.
The last 3 years software has been at a stand still, nothing new is created only icons, fonts and flashy background changes. Modern day software are ergonomic disasters.
While I am not a professional programmer(a novice at best), I do think that it is wise for anyone to learn more than one way to eat. These journalist who have sucked the tit of mediocrity for so long, just to win brownie points from the masters guild of propaganda are receiving the rude awakening that they so desperately needed. Those who cannot improvise, adapt or overcome, should look elsewhere. Lets face it. There are few good journalist out there. The world needs a break from the incoherent puke forced on us by the evil, sadistic hedonist that govern this shithole. learn to code indeed.
Everyone should learn it. One thing they all share is they love Jobs and he said if you can't learn to code you can't really prove you know how to think. https://hooktube.com/watch?v=5Z1gfgM7kzo
So remind them critical thinking is essential to reporting and no better way to increase their value than learning how tech is going to ultimately replace them from their next job also.
Won't happen. When you look at tensor flow, it is still programming.
Also the Ai to replace a human is way too costly to maintain and sucks so much energy that on itself causes climate change.
You don't understand the field if you believe this. Biological thought is limited to time-serialized samples and 20-60hz response times. AI will have no such limitations. We will be able to create a program to do (sound -> code) mappings. Things like "Alexa, build me a website where people can talk to each other like reddit".
The only thing an AI will be able to do is slight variations of what already exists. If you want to be successful as a business then you must be a leader, not another clone of the competition
You want to become a leader by having cloned software that look identically like the other 100 direct competitors? Why would a customer choose you over the 99 other companies?
AI will create unique things, not clones. Think if you had an army of programmers that worked 1000x faster than any one team around today, all at the cost of electricity. That's where we are headed.
1000 of typing monkeys does not create a good book.
Neither will 1000 scrum developers create one useful product.
The annoying thing about AI is that you have to teach what you want.
So instead of programming you have to train it by telling what it should do.
Imagine guiding 1000 typing monkeys to write a good book, they won't listen to you.
The other issue with AI is that AI can only create what it learned to create.
It becomes an less than average developer creating sub standard solutions.
Out in the real world with the #learntocode madness and scrum we have 100 out of 1 developers that are pure crap.
Good developers gets outnumbers by 100 bad developers that undo their programming.
Interesting is when a company is downsizing and fires most developer, the good developers suddenly becomes productive again.
AI assisting developers to create good programs faster is another ballgame.
A good developer can focus on what he wants to build and the AI is a glorified spell checker.
AI does not benefit in generating programs. We already have thousands of skins available for code that are exactly clones of each other.
There is nothing new the AI can create it already exists.
But a good developer can out of the blue invent new technology to create things that does not yet exist optimized for your company.
Good programmers can escape the box of limitations and create something new. I call it cheating because they bypass coding rules.
In addition when AI is thought wrong, it gets harder to get it back on track.
And yes I have been learning everything about AI the last 3 years to have a feeling what it is able to do.
It is still really disappointing, and takes good developers to guide it to become somehow practical.
You need to look 2-8 years in the future. AI is narrow now but it will not stay that way. See unsupervised learning, adversarial methods, consciousness prior, day/night cycles, and more. Imagine an AI that you can communicate with via webcam that is building as you talk to it. That's where we are headed. It's naive to think that humans will still be the ones crossing the semantic gap.
The thing about journalists is that they are usually irrational types who took classes in college that were no more difficult than your average high school course. Coders have to be intelligent, and good at analysis and problem solving. A person's feelings about a problem simply don't matter and you don't get points for zealotry or having the latest must have moral beliefs. It is kind of a funny joke to say that journalists should learn to code, but most are particularly ill-suited for it.
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0 u/Jewed 30 Jan 2019 18:34
The machines have no mercy for the chronically retarded.
0 u/Fullmetal 28 Mar 2019 15:05
At the end of the day it either works, or it doesn't. Identity politics doesn't come into it. The machine doesn't care about your race, religion, gender, creed, national origin, sexual orientation, or any damned thing else. The computer cares about the code. Nothing more, nothing less.
0 u/roznak [OP] 30 Jan 2019 18:40
The annoying thing with coding is that it is a 365.2422/7/24 none stop effort. You eat behind the PC, you drink behind the PC you even take your laptop to the toilet. Blink and a 18 year old replaces your job because he is ahead of you.
The other thing is that 18 year old that just replaced you will be replaced 6 months or 1 year from now because he too becomes obsolete. So the world is creating one giant pile of throwaway developers that will end up in a burn out state and jump from a building.
Now the good news: Those developers that are on top of the food-chain and evolved while other developers gave up or jumped from a building will be the ones that companies need after they burned through the complete population. Those will become the new millionaires.
0 u/oligarchsalamander 03 Feb 2019 15:20
Some of that is true but it really takes nothing to get hired as a software developer these days.
If you can stand it to stare at a computer screen 6 hours a day 5 days a week, you're on par with half the developers that get hired. And of the ones who don't get hired but interview? Holy shit seriously so much money is wasted interviewing people who don't even know what a loop is. Worse than that once in a while one of them actually gets hired.
Scrum, which is this stupid methodology where basically you're only as good as your worst developer, just exacerbates the problem. Managers think it means they can hire lots of shit developers and it forces them to put their heads together. The software industry is seriously a disaster, it has been for decades.
0 u/WhiteRonin 03 Feb 2019 15:48
Scrum is just a meeting that lets other people know what you are working on and to keep track of bugs and features.
0 u/oligarchsalamander 03 Feb 2019 16:13
Scrum is an entire industry, you can hire Scrum "grand dragons" or whatever the fuck, there's books on this stuff. It's like a religion. They come into your company and audit your scrum processes. Companies I worked at that adopted it developed software at the speed of piss because we spent all our fucking time talking.
0 u/WhiteRonin 03 Feb 2019 16:29
Bad scrum manager then.
Scrum is 15 minutes and must stick to just what is being worked on. If a discussion starts about a particular issue then it must be stopped or you end up with what happened to your team.
Other meetings include agile elements like back log grooming and retrospecs.
You worked in a fucked up situation where the tools were used wrongly.
0 u/roznak [OP] 03 Feb 2019 16:22
That is not how software works. scrum is the most inefficient system I have ever met. It prevents your good developers function as efficient as they can and having to lower their standard to your worst developer in your team.
Two years I worked in a team where you need 10 people to do exactly the same thing as one developer that does not use scrum. Thanks god they finally realized that it sucked and now we are back in the none-scrum mode and projects suddenly flourish without stress.
Scrum only benefits bad programmers into thinking that they are good. Scrum is like paint by numbers and then think that you created a Michelangelo.
0 u/WhiteRonin 03 Feb 2019 16:27
What are you going on about????
Scrum uses JIRA or Azure DevOps (VSTS) to track bugs and features.
Scrum is just a 15 minute standup meeting basically.
Or are you going on about Velocity and the need to keep story points down so that sprints can be completed?
Sounds like those 2 years had a shit team instead of good developers or just a shitty ass project manager who couldn’t keep shit on track.
0 u/roznak [OP] 03 Feb 2019 16:52
On the contrary we are on a very efficient team only held to a crawling halt by the scrum methodology.
That 15 minute standup meeting is not scrum, that is only 1% of scrum.
And after 2 years all those in favor of scrum have left the projects. We finally have now the time to fix the crap and make it function in record time. Those user stories that is inefficient crap. Three weeks of sprint, and no way to respond fast and fix the thing that took ages. Without the scrum, ask us anything and within half a day or 2 days it is in. That is agile development, not that slow paced scrum sprint.
In the next weeks the very efficient functioning of our team that are now free from scrum will create shock-waves. More production, less bugs, faster development, better improvements, performant code. That is what you get when you use your developers at their peak capacity instead of this crappy use story related that cripples your developers and make them feel unhappy.
We are not restricted to the project manager anymore, we are faster than any project manager.
0 u/WhiteRonin 03 Feb 2019 17:36
Sounds like your agile implementation (which is what you really are complaining about) sucked.
If a story was shot - blame the BA and product owners.
What kind of fucked system were you working with? It definitely wasn’t agile using scrum properly.
Also, talk to HR for hiring shit staff who can’t do agile correctly.
0 u/roznak [OP] 03 Feb 2019 18:53
On the contrary we are following scrum by the book. Everybody had to follow scrum courses. We had even a personal scrum coach for a very long period. The funny thing is that when he took over to show us how it was done he failed miserably. Hahah
The proof is in the pudding, projects that becomes successful and our team is now producing projects that rocks. And we just started to accelerate. The other scrum teams can't keep track with us :-)
0 u/WhiteRonin 03 Feb 2019 21:24
Sounds like your scrum master and project managers were idiot Ms who didn’t understand agile and how to manage.
0 u/roznak [OP] 04 Feb 2019 18:27
Well anyway, we are now back on track with 0% stress and 100% productivity. Things gets done now.
End result, 4 times SCRUM in different companies in the last 10 years: 4 out of 4 FAIL!
0 u/WhiteRonin 03 Feb 2019 17:39
As for the sprint not fixing something now, we’ll what the fuck did you do for QA and UAT?
Seriously, do you guys just deploy and fix production bugs on the fly? Do you developers even consider what happens when your hotfox fucked up other things?
Jesus ...
0 u/roznak [OP] 03 Feb 2019 18:44
QA and UAT is still there, nothing gets pushed into production untested by other teams. Don't worry.
Without scrum, when we discover issues, or even finds new bugs in the code we can fix them instantly without having to go through an enormous waste of time through the sprints. With scrum we were forced to put a feature to done even buggy. Without scrum we put a feature done when it is ready and the quality is met.
0 u/WhiteRonin 03 Feb 2019 20:30
You were using agile wrong and you talk about scrum as being agile.
You are confusing me.
0 u/roznak [OP] 04 Feb 2019 18:41
That is why you don't realize how inefficient scrum really is.
I give you a clue, SCRUM:
End result = 5+5+5+5=20 user stories
None scrum:
End result: 8 user stories
0 u/roznak [OP] 03 Feb 2019 16:26
The last 3 years software has been at a stand still, nothing new is created only icons, fonts and flashy background changes. Modern day software are ergonomic disasters.
0 u/YoHomie 30 Jan 2019 20:14
They should learn to pull their head's out of their ass first.
0 u/Anon83 03 Feb 2019 17:46
While I am not a professional programmer(a novice at best), I do think that it is wise for anyone to learn more than one way to eat. These journalist who have sucked the tit of mediocrity for so long, just to win brownie points from the masters guild of propaganda are receiving the rude awakening that they so desperately needed. Those who cannot improvise, adapt or overcome, should look elsewhere. Lets face it. There are few good journalist out there. The world needs a break from the incoherent puke forced on us by the evil, sadistic hedonist that govern this shithole. learn to code indeed.
0 u/eronburr 04 Feb 2019 20:45
Everyone should learn it. One thing they all share is they love Jobs and he said if you can't learn to code you can't really prove you know how to think. https://hooktube.com/watch?v=5Z1gfgM7kzo
So remind them critical thinking is essential to reporting and no better way to increase their value than learning how tech is going to ultimately replace them from their next job also.
0 u/23408234092834 08 Feb 2019 11:14
HTML is not coding… when will stupid liberal leftist propagandist women finally learn?
0 u/wtf123132 13 Feb 2019 05:50
AI will replace coders too. It's just crossing the semantic gap. The best coder today is like the best chess player before deep blue.
0 u/roznak [OP] 13 Feb 2019 18:19
Won't happen. When you look at tensor flow, it is still programming. Also the Ai to replace a human is way too costly to maintain and sucks so much energy that on itself causes climate change.
0 u/wtf123132 13 Feb 2019 20:33
You don't understand the field if you believe this. Biological thought is limited to time-serialized samples and 20-60hz response times. AI will have no such limitations. We will be able to create a program to do (sound -> code) mappings. Things like "Alexa, build me a website where people can talk to each other like reddit".
0 u/roznak [OP] 13 Feb 2019 20:37
The only thing an AI will be able to do is slight variations of what already exists. If you want to be successful as a business then you must be a leader, not another clone of the competition
0 u/wtf123132 13 Feb 2019 22:02
This is not true. I'm not sure where you are getting your information from.
0 u/roznak [OP] 14 Feb 2019 18:35
You want to become a leader by having cloned software that look identically like the other 100 direct competitors? Why would a customer choose you over the 99 other companies?
0 u/wtf123132 14 Feb 2019 21:47
AI will create unique things, not clones. Think if you had an army of programmers that worked 1000x faster than any one team around today, all at the cost of electricity. That's where we are headed.
0 u/roznak [OP] 14 Feb 2019 22:28
That is not how programming works.
1000 of typing monkeys does not create a good book. Neither will 1000 scrum developers create one useful product.
The annoying thing about AI is that you have to teach what you want. So instead of programming you have to train it by telling what it should do. Imagine guiding 1000 typing monkeys to write a good book, they won't listen to you.
The other issue with AI is that AI can only create what it learned to create. It becomes an less than average developer creating sub standard solutions.
Out in the real world with the #learntocode madness and scrum we have 100 out of 1 developers that are pure crap. Good developers gets outnumbers by 100 bad developers that undo their programming. Interesting is when a company is downsizing and fires most developer, the good developers suddenly becomes productive again.
AI assisting developers to create good programs faster is another ballgame. A good developer can focus on what he wants to build and the AI is a glorified spell checker.
AI does not benefit in generating programs. We already have thousands of skins available for code that are exactly clones of each other. There is nothing new the AI can create it already exists.
But a good developer can out of the blue invent new technology to create things that does not yet exist optimized for your company. Good programmers can escape the box of limitations and create something new. I call it cheating because they bypass coding rules.
In addition when AI is thought wrong, it gets harder to get it back on track.
And yes I have been learning everything about AI the last 3 years to have a feeling what it is able to do.
It is still really disappointing, and takes good developers to guide it to become somehow practical.
0 u/wtf123132 15 Feb 2019 04:43
You need to look 2-8 years in the future. AI is narrow now but it will not stay that way. See unsupervised learning, adversarial methods, consciousness prior, day/night cycles, and more. Imagine an AI that you can communicate with via webcam that is building as you talk to it. That's where we are headed. It's naive to think that humans will still be the ones crossing the semantic gap.
0 u/prattle 27 Mar 2019 01:37
The thing about journalists is that they are usually irrational types who took classes in college that were no more difficult than your average high school course. Coders have to be intelligent, and good at analysis and problem solving. A person's feelings about a problem simply don't matter and you don't get points for zealotry or having the latest must have moral beliefs. It is kind of a funny joke to say that journalists should learn to code, but most are particularly ill-suited for it.