Linux Outreachy Program pays women $5000 to make trivial whitespace changes
88 06 Mar 2019 17:41 by u/LarryBagelstein
The interns who worked with The Linux Foundation as part of the FOSS Outreach Program for Women this summer come from diverse backgrounds and levels of experience, but they now have at least one thing in common (besides their gender). They can all add “Linux kernel hacker” to their resume.
Let's take a look at the "top contributor" from this Outreachy program:
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/search?q=Xenia+Ragiadakou&type=Commits
Oh look at that, 203 commits of whitespace and formatting changes during that summer, and not single, solitary commit since. $5000 well spent.
These links are taken from 2013, but they've been doing the exact same thing every year since:
The staging area also has "loads of tiny checkpatch cleanup fixes" coming in all over the staging area thanks to Outreachy participants. These patches just come down to minor code formatting improvements, etc.
-- https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.1-Staging-Changes
tl;dr: the (((Linux Kernel Foundation))) is paying highly incompetent women $5000 to do basically nothing, so that they can lie about being a "kernel hacker" on their resume.
86 comments
0 u/headfire 06 Mar 2019 18:40
add space after ',' in r819xU_HTType.h
A commit for literally one whitespace character. A text file change can not get smaller than that, nor more useless than that.
Shit like this is the reason why I actually read the source code people link on their resumes.
0 u/Plavonica 06 Mar 2019 22:17
Good lord. Even as a newbie programmer finishing off university I know not to comment on something so simple. I generally fix all my whitespace/formatting issue in one go, about once per sprint.
Usually while also fixing up and adding to my comments to make them more clear to whoever has to read that terrible code and try to make sense of it.
0 u/cantaloupe6 06 Mar 2019 22:41
What's your favorite language or framework.
0 u/Plavonica 07 Mar 2019 02:12
I like object oriented stuff like Java. But C based things are ok. It gets weird after that. I was exposed to around 30+ languages in the course. I didn't like that because I never got a good experience in any one language.
They really do concentrate on their basics, but they totally ignore any experience based stuff. So I have a huge amount of info on theoretical things, but not much on stuff I might actually use.
0 u/elitch2 07 Mar 2019 06:34
My teen son knows; Python, C, C++, and C#.
He's currently smashing practice tests for certification, when he's old enough.
You basically wasted your time and money going the university route.
0 u/cantaloupe6 07 Mar 2019 07:54
Can he math? It takes university level math and language skills to be functional.
Otherwise the following wouldn't even be understood.
https://scikit-learn.org/stable/supervised_learning.html#supervised-learning
0 u/elitch2 07 Mar 2019 14:55
He can math.
0 u/cantaloupe6 07 Mar 2019 17:56
He'd also want to know functional programming such as Java streaming or like Haskell, Database usage SQL, PL/SQL, T-SQL, etc. A prototype language used as such like JavaScript - node-JS. Tech like Oracle, MariaDB, SQL Server, PostgreSQL, etc. Various NoSQL DBs.
Principles or Programming languages ( how to make a compiler) OS - (how to create an OS) - it helps to make code not suck.
There are lots of data structures and algorithms abstract from any language https://courses.csail.mit.edu/6.006/spring11/rec/rec04.pdf
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~fp/courses/15122-s11/lectures/18-avl.pdf
https://web.stanford.edu/class/cs97si/06-basic-graph-algorithms.pdf
Sorting Algorithms; Trees, graphs and related algorithms.
DB normalization - here are some of the basics: https://www.studytonight.com/dbms/database-normalization.php
Design patterns https://www.dofactory.com/net/design-patterns
Boolean algebra basics - https://kullabs.com/classes/subjects/units/lessons/notes/note-detail/3479
Ternary logic - for DBs.
Given a stack of resumes, how are the people examining his experience going to be comfortably certain that this guy is who they should recommend to the hiring manager over all the other candidates? That he doesn't have any holes in his knowledge that are going to bite them? (If they take a risk and are wrong they all look bad).
PyDev.org actually needs help maybe he could build credentials contributing to open source - then at least others can check his commits.
One also needs to be able to learn an enormous amount quickly, efficiently organize the information, interpret it intelligently, and present it (exactly like school work).
It typically takes a few years of work experience after a masters degree to be functional; if someone is really smart of course they can just do it.
0 u/elitch2 07 Mar 2019 19:50
Resumes! Good one.
My son isn't going to be a code cuck for some multi-culty corporation.
Every single coder I know worth a damn, is self taught.
0 u/Plavonica 07 Mar 2019 19:51
Wow, I actually understood all of that.
0 u/cantaloupe6 07 Mar 2019 20:02
great. now go please go build one of these types of processors http://www.magnonics.org/ because it needs to happen. jk
0 u/Plavonica 07 Mar 2019 20:19
Fuck it, if they would pay me to do it, I would. Despite how dumb it may be.
0 u/Synxsynxsynx 07 Mar 2019 13:11
God damn I love seeing it play out this way.
Going to uni for tech is such an astronomical waste of money. You either get it or you dont, love it and its your hobby, or dont.
Good people in tech drink that shit like it's coffee. It's breakfast lunch and dinner. People who dabble never go far.
Encourage your son, make it easy for him. Cherish him.
0 u/elitch2 07 Mar 2019 14:49
I just built a VR dev rig.
Those 2080ti's are kinda fucking awesome.
0 u/Plavonica 07 Mar 2019 19:50
*shrug
You paid for it. Thanks G.I. bill.
0 u/ex-redd 06 Mar 2019 19:19
you shouldn't have joked so much about: "learn to code"
0 u/ViperCarbz 07 Mar 2019 01:11
That and "get a STEM degree, bro!"
Everyone is a fucking "engineer" now.
0 u/andrew_jackson 07 Mar 2019 01:22
Spot on. The technology field is polluted with idiots. The bubble has to burst at some point. Just need to find a way to make money off of the collapse of the tech sector.
0 u/myvoicefromhell 07 Mar 2019 08:38
Sell fake diplomas.
0 u/andrew_jackson 07 Mar 2019 22:11
Dude, that's actually fucking deep. Holy shit. I don't have the moxie to pull it off, but darn that's a good idea.
0 u/Synxsynxsynx 07 Mar 2019 13:07
God fucking damnit I cannot wait until the day of the rope happens in tech.
0 u/JimSoddell 07 Mar 2019 04:46
STEAM degree bro, STEAM. A for arts. Like Interpretive Dance and Theatre. Also did you know the S for Science now includes Bakery Science?
0 u/undertheshills 07 Mar 2019 14:10
Baking is a science. If youre good at it, and know how to run a business, the profit margins are huge.
0 u/ORACONX 09 Apr 2019 21:05
It's an SJW fad. They'll give up in no time. They're too narrow minded to stay in the field. These losers hate to lift a finger let alone learn how to program.
Kicking some of these Linux fags asses for being bitches will help change their minds.
0 u/andrew_jackson 07 Mar 2019 01:25
Yeah but the good news is I never need to feel compelled to contribute money to linux again after this. If they have so much money that they can waste it so lavishly, they don't need a dime from me.
0 u/the_art_collector 06 Mar 2019 19:46
Wait until you find out that the entire industry has been doing the same for several years.
0 u/LarryBagelstein [OP] 06 Mar 2019 21:38
Not quite so egregiously as this though.
0 u/AmaleksHairyAss 06 Mar 2019 21:57
And then they demand "equal pay"
0 u/JustARandomStranger 06 Mar 2019 22:09
It's why I retired three years ago.
I worked for a multi-billion dollar unicorn company. To be "more diverse", they converted all of the single-occupant unisex bathrooms to gendered bathrooms, and then gave the women keys to both.
Company-sponsored "Girls Who Code" events were held during office hours, and they hired security to keep male employees out of those parts of the office during work hours.
I was literally complaining about these things the moment the James Damore memo went public.
0 u/GoatyMcGoatface 06 Mar 2019 23:09
I like to code for hobby. Am I overqualified for a job?
0 u/Biggerpotato 07 Mar 2019 00:32
Compared to all the retard hindus in the industry. Yes you are probably extremely overqualified.
0 u/Gargilius 07 Mar 2019 00:53
it depends: are you white?
0 u/JimSoddell 07 Mar 2019 04:47
As long as deep within your heart you identify as a woman you are a diversity hire.
0 u/jthun2 06 Mar 2019 23:12
Sounds like the ultra left silicon valley culture. I just left my rather prominent tech employer, feel better about it already.
0 u/Gargilius 07 Mar 2019 00:54
...oh boy, this is hitting close to home; I am six months away from retiring (but don't tell anyone...:-) ) - and I am slowly losing my mind.
0 u/oligarchsalamander 15 Mar 2019 21:06
It's frustrating watching stupidity take over management in a project you were by that point invested in. This has been a widespread problem I've seen it everywhere. It's not even appreciated which is amazing really.
0 u/cantaloupe6 06 Mar 2019 20:14
Well at least they didn't touch the code. If they claim they know how it works just say... okay explain how the scheduling works .. what is the architecture of the kernel? What changes did you make and why were they important? What kinds of device drivers are there? How do you make a new one? Etc.
It'll be real obvious if they know anything.
Probably it's the first time some kernel devs talked to a girl; so maybe money well spent?
0 u/theoldguy 06 Mar 2019 21:36
FTFY
0 u/BumFightChamp 06 Mar 2019 23:56
you send an invite and everyone accepts and then you get it on your calendar
It goes around the cob in a circle and is packed tightly.
I learned to code to make the code better
Truck drivers, taxi drivers, limo drivers, ambulance drivers, race car drivers, there are too many.
0 u/Nomoresjwbs 07 Mar 2019 00:59
Congratulations, now you have to explain to the HR delegate multiple times very slowly why those aren't valid answers to the questions. Meanwhile that HR delegate continues to say things like well she's showing good insight and initiative.
0 u/andrew_jackson 07 Mar 2019 01:24
Technology has been more about feelings an inclusiveness for at least five years, maybe ten.
0 u/Sandmich 07 Mar 2019 14:21
This should be readily apparent to anyone who uses technology. In that time range stuff first stopped getting better, and is now regressing.
0 u/andrew_jackson 07 Mar 2019 22:10
LOL, thanks for writing that quip. Needed a chuckle today.
0 u/Durm 06 Mar 2019 20:23
Sounds super dangerous
0 u/WhitePaladin 06 Mar 2019 20:34
5k here is a year of minimum wage.
0 u/parnellsUprising 06 Mar 2019 22:03
So you’re making 96 cents an hour? Ya live in Bangalore or something?
0 u/WhitePaladin 06 Mar 2019 22:17
Poortugal... so EU west, no, not 96 cents, but 3 euros hour, which roughly translates to 3.3 US dollars hour.
0 u/cantaloupe6 06 Mar 2019 22:29
Well most everything is cheaper there...
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Portugal
0 u/WhitePaladin 06 Mar 2019 23:04
It has pros and cons, its a poor country, im not riding a f150 truck like americans, but theres no niggers around so its a blessing. Half of syrian refugees fled the country, they wont even stay because money is so scarce, germany gives them 4x benefits plus they have there advantage of bigger comunities. Here its still very christian.
Its very safe, we have pherhaps the best food in the world, agricultural is spectacular and of good quality, meat fruits etc everything, like Spain, although Spain is more organized, and their people have more balls, we are castrated sheep, although police beats niggers no problem, arabs wont pull antyhing funny so soon, great place to live if you are retired and have savings. For an american that can make 50k year selling water bottles, you can retire here by buying cheap property, in fact many people all over the world are coming here to retire...
Geographically its diverse, job market is horrible though, almost 3rd world type. Thats why we dont stay and go outside looking to make big money. We always were adventurers in that regard. In this country, only the worse stay here, its cultural.
0 u/Defiants 07 Mar 2019 01:15
Ok
Ok
Wait, did we just watch you blackpill yourself about your country in real time?
0 u/WhitePaladin 07 Mar 2019 01:23
Yap, ill repeat it, there are no niggers around in most places, in the capital there are, cops were on tv some weeks ago by beating them, which is great, cops are afraid of gipsies though, its weird, anyway country is actually mediocre like a nigger country...well we do have hospitals, slightly better, i exaggerated a bit, but in terms of corruption we are the level of Nigeria as the EU posted in an observation report very recently.
Weird i know...anyway, great to live.
0 u/Tzitzimitl 08 Mar 2019 05:26
damlol
0 u/parnellsUprising 07 Mar 2019 00:26
Ouch, did not realize it was that bad there.
0 u/Incty 06 Mar 2019 21:15
Where do I sign up?! 😂
3 u/exopharrah 07 Mar 2019 01:04
It's a 40 hour per week internship that pays $5500 over the course of three months. Seems like a decent deal for people who are right out of school, but not something that anyone in the industry would be interested in.
To be honest, I wouldn't expect anyone to make major changes to the kernel after three months of an internship if they're fresh out of college.
0 u/Incty 07 Mar 2019 02:42
I was joking. Ty for the info though.
0 u/yellowthread 07 Mar 2019 05:14
If they believe adding 203 spaces equates to 480 hours of work, I'll happily bill them that many hours even if it only took an hour to find 203 whitespace "mistakes" with a regular expression.
It's 203 whitespace changes for 5000 bucks, they don't have to know how long it took.
0 u/foxyfux 06 Mar 2019 22:13
i had ppl from the same program. they didnt do much but some of them were otherwise smart, just not skilled at these jobs and with no specific interest in them. most were dumb though - as in 60 iq dumb, the thing you see without the shadow of a doubt after 1min.
they were all nice people.
the smart ones quickly mentionned how the whole thing was a joke and was insulting to them. they liked having me show them stuff because i wasnt telling them how wonderful they were and other bullshit. i shit you not. helped that im not american as well. they would basically tell me our VPs and others were NPCs.
theses women were from various North African countries.
0 u/Damnpasswords 07 Mar 2019 00:13
Déjà vu
0 u/Gargilius 07 Mar 2019 00:58
...and you can't even fuck them, because that would be career suicide.
0 u/foxyfux 19 Mar 2019 07:48
i also wouldn't be aroused or interested honestly
0 u/KnightFalcon 07 Mar 2019 00:23
damn, I shoulda identified as a woman. DRATS!
0 u/Gargilius 07 Mar 2019 00:56
It's never too late!
0 u/prairie 07 Mar 2019 13:53
And you can be gender-fluid so you only have to identify when you're 'coding'.
0 u/worthlesshope 07 Mar 2019 01:15
It's probably just for tax reasons. They probably can write off more on their taxes if they give useless jobs to people. They probably think they are helping someone while also saving money that would have gone just to the government otherwise.
0 u/justlogin 07 Mar 2019 03:00
Your first link, the first 3 have polished buzzword-laden resume language, a couple real interns, and then Xenia Ragiadakou (same person as whitespace commits) who admits being incompetent.
0 u/Kramer 07 Mar 2019 03:07
Have you considered donating to the Linux foundation?
0 u/AutisticMemeocracy 07 Mar 2019 13:15
I was hoping that was fake, but it isn't. thanks for pissing in my cornflakes this morning bruh
0 u/Malagant 07 Mar 2019 13:43
god fucking damnit, that fucking sucks. how do we cleanse linux of this shit?
0 u/randomfuckingidiot 07 Mar 2019 16:57
Gas?
0 u/Malagant 07 Mar 2019 18:11
Well said.
0 u/JimSoddell 07 Mar 2019 04:43
Thanks OP, you're doing God's own work here.
0 u/Someuserherenow 07 Mar 2019 04:55
Why was there no oversight of this program? They didn't have mentors? What if the users were faked to steal money?
0 u/yellowthread 07 Mar 2019 05:15
Do this and write a book on it.
0 u/CanadianAndProud 07 Mar 2019 06:10
Well at least the journalists have a job, but for $5k?
0 u/GapingAnus 07 Mar 2019 06:21
This has been common for some time outside of the kernel as well. I would encourage anyone so inclined to look at projects that have seen a sudden influx of drama with CoCs etc. You will more than likely find some confused tranny or effeminate faggot doing white-space related pull requests in the lead up to the drama event.
It's either that or some trivial css bullshit.
0 u/ginx2666 07 Mar 2019 09:31
Yeah, looks like I'll stay with Windows. At least Kikerosoft are greedy jews, and I can trust greedy jews to be greedy jews and do things greedy jews do.
I can't trust women even with right to vote.
0 u/StellaMartin68 07 Mar 2019 12:30
Very nice write-up. I absolutely appreciate this.
0 u/Orlando-Albert 07 Mar 2019 12:38
Meanwhile, men go unemployed so these fuckers can fuck around.
0 u/Niggertown 07 Mar 2019 21:33
Git gud, faggot.
0 u/Orlando-Albert 07 Mar 2019 23:09
https://voat.co/v/technology/3081046
0 u/ThoughtTheDragon 07 Mar 2019 16:17
This also brings up the issue of resumes. I hate resumes. They objectify people. But what's more, they generally call for a sickening amount of hyperbole, exaggeration and lying. And perhaps I'm guilty of that too as most are. But what does one do to compete in a field flooded with half truths? I may be a very capable person, but to look at my actual resume, you might think me of some lowly brown slave class. So then I act like a jew to offset this... but who am I to deny you the deception you are addicted to. I'd like to be a straight shooter, and I've had some success with it, but I've been greatly wanting for work, so I will do what I have to.
But then, I find there are two kinds of hirers- the idiot robotic ones who are all about resumes, credentials, and stereotypes and the wise ones who see you as a person and realize the power therein.
This is kind of a big issue, which some established careerists are by nature inured to. It's a big issue because HR is a gateway to many folks, particularly the unorthox, to gather resources with which to make an impact...
0 u/obvious-throwaway- 07 Mar 2019 16:18
What's your problem, it checks all the boxes on the Virtue Signaling Checklist,
☑ Wymon
☑ Colored
☑ Incompetent victims who need white knights to save them from their own incompetence
0 u/uncmftbl 07 Mar 2019 17:19
Shout out to the Google Developers Experts program
0 u/oioiiooi 07 Mar 2019 17:57
Whitespace changes sound unimportant but it's actually a lot like interior design. I think the new kernel is absolutely fabulous. All it needed was a women's touch.
0 u/ratsmack 07 Mar 2019 23:54
I'm sure Linus grits his teeth over this kind of shit, but what's he going to do now that corporate money controls most of Linux.