The problem with SJW is they don't actually code. They run around saying that they are women developers and just as good as men, but all they do is lurk repositories and complain about things. Well, I say that, but SJW is just a giant melting pot of talentless hacks of all genders and races that only have the ability to bitch about things as opposed to actually doing constructive things.
Ohai, mod here. Just wanted to quickly note that I in terms of being a moderator, will always give politicial submissions like these the Opinion flair. It does not mean that we either endorse or oppose the view reflected by the submission. It does mean that the moderator(s) of /v/programming are staying out of this. For this, it doesn't matter if we as person like or dislike the submission.
With this being said, maybe one should rename the flair to Opinion/Politics or something.
I just have a question. Why mark the submission as opinion?
It'd make sense to do that if the submission was an article about GitHub disabling a repo for using the word retard.
But, isn't it true that GitHub did infact disable a repo because of the use of the word "retard"? There's no denying that.
Whether or not it was a good / bad thing is the opinion, but this submission purely links to the commit of them removing the word retard.
I understand that you think the COMMENTS are going to turn into a pool of opinions on the matter, but then shouldn't every post get that flair? Since 90% of threads have opinions in the comments?
There must be a better way to go about what you wish, because I've seen multiple fact submissions labeled 'opinion' when infact its the comments that are opinionated.
In particular I'd strongly encourage anybody who thinks this is unreasonable to shoot them a comment. Github can be contacted at https://github.com/contact
Ultimately I think political correctness has no place in development. If you don't like a project using the word retard then don't support the project. If you want to make a "safe space" version of a project then you can fork it and do exactly that. We already have enough to worry about ensuring license compatibility, that we haven't accidentally violated some obscure software patent, and so on. And now we get to add worrying about ending up saying some word or phrase that isn't allowed by the latest incarnation of political correctness to the list of hurdles we have to navigate. In the end it does little more than retard progress.
send them a comment using your text and then some more.
Ultimately I think political correctness has no place in development. If you don't like a project using the word retard then don't support the project. If you want to make a "safe space" version of a project then you can fork it and do exactly that. We already have enough to worry about ensuring license compatibility, that we haven't accidentally violated some obscure software patent, and so on. And now we get to add worrying about ending up saying some word or phrase that isn't allowed by the latest incarnation of political correctness to the list of hurdles we have to navigate. In the end it does little more than retard progress.
. I'll be soon moving my public and private repositories to Bitbucket as I don't want to support a company that censors people and impedes collaboration.
Maybe if we get enough paying customers to message them about the absurdity of all this, maybe they'll rethink adopting the OCOC.
I would like to let you know that I am extremely unhappy with your new censoring policy. I am appalled, by you forcing a project to change its code because of the use of the work 'retard'. That is frankly just ... . As a consequence I will not start any projects on github anymore, but maintain the old ones. I will use bitbucket in the future.
I really hope that you change your policy and let your fingers from peoples code.
Interesting factoid: "Retarded" was popularized as a more politically correct phrase to cover conditions that were formerly referred to as "moron", "imbecile" and "idiot". Now "retarded" is considered a pejorative and we're moving on the next socially acceptable terminology.
What the fuck? The thread is delisted on Reddit's /r/programming, and I can't find it on HN either. Voat is becoming the ONLY place where I can find discussion about things that I really care about.
re·tard
verb
riˈtärd/
1. delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment.
GitM for people who hold back progress and development... I don't see what's so offensive. Ohhhh .... they assumed that it was targeted at a specific group of "mentally handicapped" individuals - they're the ones injecting the offensive nature to a very legitimate word by banning it. Maybe we should complain that Git itself is offensive to individuals who have had family members decapitated in accidents for their use of "Detached Head", or maybe we need to ban MongoDB for being "$exist".
Or all these shitty people out there complaining about this kinda stuff can stop being complaining twats and not get offended over everything. Everyone on Github should go and throw the word "retard" into their repos somewhere (or everywhere) to prove a point. Use it however you want - maybe "Hey we need to fix this bug or it will retard our progress" ... legitimate use of the word, let's see how they react.
This is getting retarded and it seems like that whoever makes the choices at github is either a retard or becoming retarded. Have I mention that retard people use that retarded github? It's retardedly hard to put as many instances of the word "retard" in a single reply. Though, if people weren't as retarded as they are, I wouldn't have to use retard nearly as often as I use it now.
A month and a half ago, Tom Preseton-Werner was interviewed on Bloomberg because GitHub was looking for a valuation of $2 billion in their latest funding round. Any time a company starts making serious money, dumb shit like placating the thin-skinned happens.
Reddit is currently going through the same bullshit.
A few days ago I created a post here to ask where I should migrate my projects I have on Github to. I knew that they would pull some crap like this sooner or later, and here we go.
So some time ago I decided to replace the word retard with potato. It was because of the I can count to potato picture before the dumb ass mother showed it to her kid and caused a shit storm. The word retard has always been part of my lexicon... and I am old as fuck. But I liked potato and try to encourage others to use it.. But when these fuckheads try to censor it in any way shape or form? Fuck them in the fucken asshole with a cheddar cheese log with almonds. Frankly, most of us who us that word NEVER fucken use it as a slur against actual retarded people. Retarded people by and large hurt none of us, we dont hate them, tho we might give us scary insights to ourselves and all that... We might all be assholes, but we are not that kinda asshole. While these dumb fucks attack the word they fail to attack a system that fails them on a regular basis.
Fuck github until it reverses this severely retarded horse shit.
With the word 'retarded', does every person who objects to its use have to be an SJW? If a person uses the phrase 'jewed him down' but isn't referring to Jews, can people object without being SJW's?
I get that people don't wish to have their words picked apart in search of offense. It seems to me, though, that if a parent or sibling, recognizing the use of a term commonly referring to their disabled child or sibling being used as a way to disparage neurotypical people, they might speak up in asking people to consult their thesaurus before using what was once a clinical definition of various medical conditions to insult someone.
Is there a way this topic can even be broached without invoking the wrath of people who assume the only reason you are speaking is to be a pompous pedant instead of someone who might be concerned about how someone with a disability might be affected by other's use of the term.
I fully acknowledge that there are many cases wherein people take up the standards of causes they could care less about in the hopes that others might appreciate their righteous anger on behalf of the disenfranchised. But does every objection have to be an act of zealous warriors for social justice?
please put all this crap on /v/programmingcirclejerk this isnt newsworthy and is really just trying to incite useless emotionally charged discussion. Please dont make this the-site-that-must-not-be-named
And watch the downvoats horde in like a frenzy of rioting goats...
On a serious note, I think you feel like this because the front page for the last few days has been very full of censorship and SJW stories, which maybe you have gotten tired of a little.
I feel like you could really benefit from not viewing the front page, but getting into some subverses on topics which you find interesting.
I mean I downvoated you because you added nothing to the discussion whatsoever. I feel like you're gunna get some flame for this so put on a hazmat.
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88 u/aaronC 29 Jul 2015 20:11
The problem with SJW is they don't actually code. They run around saying that they are women developers and just as good as men, but all they do is lurk repositories and complain about things. Well, I say that, but SJW is just a giant melting pot of talentless hacks of all genders and races that only have the ability to bitch about things as opposed to actually doing constructive things.
4 u/dr_bucket_md 30 Jul 2015 04:48
Dude, you're retarded.
1 u/aaronC 31 Jul 2015 20:43
Call the SJW to remove your voat account right now!
0 u/EPICBRONY 05 Aug 2015 01:52
Who are SJWs
28 u/Craftkorb 29 Jul 2015 21:30
Ohai, mod here. Just wanted to quickly note that I in terms of being a moderator, will always give politicial submissions like these the Opinion flair. It does not mean that we either endorse or oppose the view reflected by the submission. It does mean that the moderator(s) of /v/programming are staying out of this. For this, it doesn't matter if we as person like or dislike the submission.
With this being said, maybe one should rename the flair to Opinion/Politics or something.
0 u/Camamoow 08 Aug 2015 04:44
I just have a question. Why mark the submission as opinion?
It'd make sense to do that if the submission was an article about GitHub disabling a repo for using the word retard. But, isn't it true that GitHub did infact disable a repo because of the use of the word "retard"? There's no denying that.
Whether or not it was a good / bad thing is the opinion, but this submission purely links to the commit of them removing the word retard.
I understand that you think the COMMENTS are going to turn into a pool of opinions on the matter, but then shouldn't every post get that flair? Since 90% of threads have opinions in the comments?
There must be a better way to go about what you wish, because I've seen multiple fact submissions labeled 'opinion' when infact its the comments that are opinionated.
0 u/Craftkorb 08 Aug 2015 09:17
No, the article itself is also opinionated. I already wrote about it. Not giving "SJWs" any target surface is better for everyone.
0 u/Camamoow 08 Aug 2015 09:57
What article? This submission isn't an article its a link to a repository?
0 u/Craftkorb 08 Aug 2015 14:59
Oh, you're right. Well, it was a result of whatever GitHub announced earlier. Let's not make things more complicated than needed..
0 u/Camamoow 08 Aug 2015 18:52
Alright, yea, agreed.
I was just wondering, because I was a bit confused when it was marked opinion.
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
20 u/V-sync 29 Jul 2015 19:10
Shit like this makes me not regret deleting my Github account.
7 u/anticlutch 29 Jul 2015 20:27
Not that.
It's a word at most used pejoratively; not that.
Top kek; not that.
This is getting retarded.
We have now entered the sped sled.
The best I've ever had.
Go away.
Do they know how to word?
18 u/rwbj 29 Jul 2015 19:52
I also posted about this here.
In particular I'd strongly encourage anybody who thinks this is unreasonable to shoot them a comment. Github can be contacted at https://github.com/contact
Ultimately I think political correctness has no place in development. If you don't like a project using the word retard then don't support the project. If you want to make a "safe space" version of a project then you can fork it and do exactly that. We already have enough to worry about ensuring license compatibility, that we haven't accidentally violated some obscure software patent, and so on. And now we get to add worrying about ending up saying some word or phrase that isn't allowed by the latest incarnation of political correctness to the list of hurdles we have to navigate. In the end it does little more than retard progress.
5 u/ShowMeYourKitties 29 Jul 2015 22:49
send them a comment using your text and then some more.
Maybe if we get enough paying customers to message them about the absurdity of all this, maybe they'll rethink adopting the OCOC.
7 u/smeezekitty 30 Jul 2015 09:53
This is exactly why Social Justice Whiners make terrible developers. They only slow down the project and cause unnecessary controversy.
1 u/glasssp 30 Jul 2015 16:31
I wrote:
13 u/browse 29 Jul 2015 22:46
Interesting factoid: "Retarded" was popularized as a more politically correct phrase to cover conditions that were formerly referred to as "moron", "imbecile" and "idiot". Now "retarded" is considered a pejorative and we're moving on the next socially acceptable terminology.
11 u/xaric 29 Jul 2015 20:18
Well, that is retarded.
8 u/iopq 30 Jul 2015 03:51
What the fuck? The thread is delisted on Reddit's /r/programming, and I can't find it on HN either. Voat is becoming the ONLY place where I can find discussion about things that I really care about.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9966118
https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3f07ur/github_disables_repository_for_using_the_word/
where are these?
7 u/faissaloo 29 Jul 2015 19:38
I'm going to go make a commit with the word retard in it for the lols
0 u/zeaus 03 Aug 2015 07:10
Everyone should do this, this should be a huge campaign and let github reap what they sow.
5 u/snowfragrance 29 Jul 2015 20:39
And on the first day, they came to Voat in flocks from Reddit. On the second day, they came in flocks to BitBucket from GitHub.
5 u/pivotraze 29 Jul 2015 21:01
This makes me decide to leave Github. What do you recommend?
*EDIT: I've decided on GitLab. Opinions?
4 u/LittleBobbyTables 29 Jul 2015 19:55
GitM for people who hold back progress and development... I don't see what's so offensive. Ohhhh .... they assumed that it was targeted at a specific group of "mentally handicapped" individuals - they're the ones injecting the offensive nature to a very legitimate word by banning it. Maybe we should complain that Git itself is offensive to individuals who have had family members decapitated in accidents for their use of "Detached Head", or maybe we need to ban MongoDB for being "$exist".
Or all these shitty people out there complaining about this kinda stuff can stop being complaining twats and not get offended over everything. Everyone on Github should go and throw the word "retard" into their repos somewhere (or everywhere) to prove a point. Use it however you want - maybe "Hey we need to fix this bug or it will retard our progress" ... legitimate use of the word, let's see how they react.
3 u/gtcom 30 Jul 2015 00:01
Well, that's retarded...
3 u/RoseEsque 30 Jul 2015 00:19
This is getting retarded and it seems like that whoever makes the choices at github is either a retard or becoming retarded. Have I mention that retard people use that retarded github? It's retardedly hard to put as many instances of the word "retard" in a single reply. Though, if people weren't as retarded as they are, I wouldn't have to use retard nearly as often as I use it now.
2 u/moses_blimey 30 Jul 2015 15:47
It is aggravating, but expected.
A month and a half ago, Tom Preseton-Werner was interviewed on Bloomberg because GitHub was looking for a valuation of $2 billion in their latest funding round. Any time a company starts making serious money, dumb shit like placating the thin-skinned happens.
Reddit is currently going through the same bullshit.
1 u/1is1 30 Jul 2015 20:15
A little fun to lighten up this situation
1 u/TheSniperFan 30 Jul 2015 21:41
A few days ago I created a post here to ask where I should migrate my projects I have on Github to. I knew that they would pull some crap like this sooner or later, and here we go.
The power of foresight.
1 u/septopus 31 Jul 2015 19:44
So some time ago I decided to replace the word retard with potato. It was because of the I can count to potato picture before the dumb ass mother showed it to her kid and caused a shit storm. The word retard has always been part of my lexicon... and I am old as fuck. But I liked potato and try to encourage others to use it.. But when these fuckheads try to censor it in any way shape or form? Fuck them in the fucken asshole with a cheddar cheese log with almonds. Frankly, most of us who us that word NEVER fucken use it as a slur against actual retarded people. Retarded people by and large hurt none of us, we dont hate them, tho we might give us scary insights to ourselves and all that... We might all be assholes, but we are not that kinda asshole. While these dumb fucks attack the word they fail to attack a system that fails them on a regular basis.
Fuck github until it reverses this severely retarded horse shit.
1 u/zquad 03 Aug 2015 01:48
Git is a synonym for Idiot...... IRONY!
1 u/Pawn 15 Aug 2015 06:55
Github has dug it's own grave. Time will make them lay in it.
0 u/HansSoItGoes 30 Jul 2015 01:49
Fanatics can be aggravating.
With the word 'retarded', does every person who objects to its use have to be an SJW? If a person uses the phrase 'jewed him down' but isn't referring to Jews, can people object without being SJW's?
I get that people don't wish to have their words picked apart in search of offense. It seems to me, though, that if a parent or sibling, recognizing the use of a term commonly referring to their disabled child or sibling being used as a way to disparage neurotypical people, they might speak up in asking people to consult their thesaurus before using what was once a clinical definition of various medical conditions to insult someone.
Is there a way this topic can even be broached without invoking the wrath of people who assume the only reason you are speaking is to be a pompous pedant instead of someone who might be concerned about how someone with a disability might be affected by other's use of the term.
I fully acknowledge that there are many cases wherein people take up the standards of causes they could care less about in the hopes that others might appreciate their righteous anger on behalf of the disenfranchised. But does every objection have to be an act of zealous warriors for social justice?
0 u/JSRob 30 Jul 2015 04:36
Millions of coders are frantically searching their repositories for derogatory words as we speak.
-15 u/jewdai 29 Jul 2015 19:40
please put all this crap on /v/programmingcirclejerk this isnt newsworthy and is really just trying to incite useless emotionally charged discussion. Please dont make this the-site-that-must-not-be-named
2 u/insert_name 29 Jul 2015 19:56
And watch the downvoats horde in like a frenzy of rioting goats...
On a serious note, I think you feel like this because the front page for the last few days has been very full of censorship and SJW stories, which maybe you have gotten tired of a little.
I feel like you could really benefit from not viewing the front page, but getting into some subverses on topics which you find interesting.
I mean I downvoated you because you added nothing to the discussion whatsoever. I feel like you're gunna get some flame for this so put on a hazmat.
9 u/tehyosh 29 Jul 2015 20:18
How is this not newsworthy? It's about a reputable code hosting company censoring content because someone used a word they didn't like.