That's really too bad. Firefox is a wonderful browser, and I've always thought Mozilla put out good quality products. (I never tried any of the FirefoxOS stuff, tho.) This would explain a lot. Is it too late to get Eich back?
Well, as they say, it's easy to fork if the company keeps going down a bullshit path. And I wouldn't want Eich back in Mozilla, he's probably achieving much much more working on Brave (which I will install the moment someone makes a PPA for it).
I tried getting Brave to run, but I couldn't get it working. Aw, well. I'm sure it will get easier when it gets big enough to be added to the actual repos.
Isn't Eich the guy they fired because some political libtards raised hue and cry over some of his politically incorrect personal beliefs? So that was a smokescreen and this is the real reason?
I'm starting to get the impression that there will be a generation switch of browsers in the near future. The current generation of Firefox, Chrome, Opera, are all going down the drain right now. I can see in a couple of years Brave and Otter taking over (maybe some others too, like Iron).
I've tried around a dozen others, but they all fall short of the mark. The closest is probably pale-moon, which is a firefox fork with a bunch of bugs. Right now I've given in and I use chrome.
When last I used it, SeaMonkey was a Firefox compatible browser without all the stupidity. If the Firefox devs continue removing useful features and replacing them with ad space I can easily see myself checking back in with SeaMonkey. Other ideas:
I tried all of those except Konqueror and Vivaldi (not available for linux). I wasn't very impressed, they're usable, but they all had major bugs for basic functionality and didn't really compare to FF or Chrome.
I basically installed every browser in the ubuntu software center, plus a few others from around the web.
How is IceCat? Is it so concerned with being philosophically pure it ends up crippling itself for anything practical? I mean that seriously and not sarcastically; that sort of thing can and does come up with some free software projects (Hurd being the most glaring example).
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6 u/fracker_monocle 06 Mar 2016 19:08
That's really too bad. Firefox is a wonderful browser, and I've always thought Mozilla put out good quality products. (I never tried any of the FirefoxOS stuff, tho.) This would explain a lot. Is it too late to get Eich back?
2 u/Broc_Lia [OP] 06 Mar 2016 19:58
Well, as they say, it's easy to fork if the company keeps going down a bullshit path. And I wouldn't want Eich back in Mozilla, he's probably achieving much much more working on Brave (which I will install the moment someone makes a PPA for it).
0 u/fracker_monocle 06 Mar 2016 21:35
I tried getting Brave to run, but I couldn't get it working. Aw, well. I'm sure it will get easier when it gets big enough to be added to the actual repos.
11 u/mukt 06 Mar 2016 20:07
Isn't Eich the guy they fired because some political libtards raised hue and cry over some of his politically incorrect personal beliefs? So that was a smokescreen and this is the real reason?
EDIT: a lot actually
8 u/Broc_Lia [OP] 06 Mar 2016 20:11
I think it was probably both. Mozilla has pulled all kinds of other socjus bullshit since, so it wasn't just a one off.
6 u/HoocOtt 06 Mar 2016 22:59
He opposed gay marriage at the same time Hillary and Obama opposed it....but I guess he forgot to get his left wing pass card when he did it.
2 u/weezkitty 06 Mar 2016 23:27
In private, mind you. It isn't like Mozilla itself had an official stance on the matter
5 u/0x5f3759df 06 Mar 2016 20:03
I'm starting to get the impression that there will be a generation switch of browsers in the near future. The current generation of Firefox, Chrome, Opera, are all going down the drain right now. I can see in a couple of years Brave and Otter taking over (maybe some others too, like Iron).
2 u/Broc_Lia [OP] 06 Mar 2016 20:10
Never heard of otter, might give it a go.
I've tried around a dozen others, but they all fall short of the mark. The closest is probably pale-moon, which is a firefox fork with a bunch of bugs. Right now I've given in and I use chrome.
1 u/mukt 06 Mar 2016 20:12
Iron and Epic are Chrome based. PaleMoon is Mozilla fork.
These might turn out well.
2 u/effusive_ermine 06 Mar 2016 21:20
When last I used it, SeaMonkey was a Firefox compatible browser without all the stupidity. If the Firefox devs continue removing useful features and replacing them with ad space I can easily see myself checking back in with SeaMonkey. Other ideas:
1 u/Broc_Lia [OP] 06 Mar 2016 21:32
I tried all of those except Konqueror and Vivaldi (not available for linux). I wasn't very impressed, they're usable, but they all had major bugs for basic functionality and didn't really compare to FF or Chrome.
I basically installed every browser in the ubuntu software center, plus a few others from around the web.
0 u/tribblepuncher 07 Mar 2016 19:17
How is IceCat? Is it so concerned with being philosophically pure it ends up crippling itself for anything practical? I mean that seriously and not sarcastically; that sort of thing can and does come up with some free software projects (Hurd being the most glaring example).
0 u/effusive_ermine 07 Mar 2016 22:08
Install it into a VM and let us know what you think.
2 u/Torchhead 08 Mar 2016 03:00
A company run by greedy pigs. Where is the news?
0 u/Broc_Lia [OP] 06 Mar 2016 18:37
Curiously, they didn't mention all the socjus crap, but I guess that could just be a smokescreen for the stuff they did argue about.