I've never even visited there and I found out I was banned.

I've been banned from gaming or PC gaming or both for a while now. They're hyper childish when it comes to banning.

I get it, different strokes. But the pacing is bad, the overarching story is always stretched paper thin, the characters are forgettable, and Kurtzman's writing room thinks they're writing for star wars. The show isn't smart and has nothing to say. Strange New Worlds is better, but the only series to do trek well right now is the Orville.

And it being a generic sci-fi show doesn't make it trash? I'm confused

Can you explain how?

Agree to disagree

And Voyager (shots fired)

Yep. Take that ban

Me too, never been there, just checked and I was banned. We aren't missing out.

Interesting POV.

They think they're trying to find sexy singles in their area.

He wasn't in that episode.

Aww, I haven't been banned yet. I'm feeling left out.

I wouldn't work for free.

I couldn't believe it when chewy made out with Dr. Bashir.

And joined.

I commented this way because I've had it happen to me personally

Fair

I've unsubbed. It should be renamed r/AlexKurtzmanlove the whole staff in r/startrek is garbage

I don't know if that's supposed to make things okay or not.

But It's fun to dunk on people when they're down!

Easiest ban I ever got.

I stay in the Detroit Lions subreddit specifically for that reason.

Abuse of power by people who are providing reddit with free labor.

Lower decks is great.

Yeah, like what r/startrek does if you say discovery is trash and Alex Kurtzman doesn't understand trek.

I love this move by moderators. Don't want to have a reasonable conversation so they just mute you for a month. Bunch of fucking cunts.

Clearly that's a lie

Womp womp

I just call it like I see it.

I wouldn't have banned you, but you are an idiot

Is it though?

Complain about it in another sub rather than just asking the mods over there is clearly the answer

[try this](https://imgur.com/gallery/wkKSWb1)

Alright, so what is going on then? If the demo of this site doesn't skew on the young(er) and liberal side then there's another reason. What is it?

In the most general of definitions, that is accurate.

I clicked into it but couldn’t see the offending comments. Bummer

Link is broken I think.

Bazinga!

Are you asking who watches the watchmen?

Judgement is subjective by its very nature

That's pretty clearly abusing the report system then

I mean, it depends on what was being said. Context is pretty important.

It wasn't expressly stated, so I probably did.

The first one is subjective, the other two have pretty well defined meanings.

Those are different problems. That's abusing the reporting system

Wow, having bare minimum common decency is a bad thing now?

Woah.

I'm asking for evidence without making a judgement either way. But I’m going with “you don’t have any” since the first thing that I was greeted with was personal insults. And yes, I’ve thought Bee was funny since her daily show years.

>There’s mountains of evidence... Provides no evidence.

But what if they are actual racists?

Is not what I said.

JO's sole purpose as a "newsman" has been to incite outrage. Because he often misrepresents statements, I cannot take it at face value. And, if I were looking for credibility I wouldn't look for it on Reddit.

I guess you missed the part where I had interesting meaningful conversation with some folk later on in the thread. The edit was only to catch idiots. So, clearly. mission accomplished

Ohhh a threat. Bring it cupcake

If I was looking for public credibility, I wouldn't be trying to get it from Reddit. As for your snark about CNN: k

PV has been known in the past for presenting partial truths as concrete facts and even outright fabrication of falsehoods as news. The problem with the video is because of his past, unless presented in it's entirety and independently verified I have to assume it's false/faked/not entirely true. It's not like I decided randomly he was a bad guy. He made that decision for me.

It's not like I wouldn't entertain the notion of considering him credible if he went back and put in the work to earn it. But as you've said, he has his audience. I'm not a part of it, and I'm pretty sure he's okay with that.

Yeah, I'm going to stop you right there. A person's credibility is always going to be considered prior to making a judgment about the factual nature of a statement. Also the second part of your argument is verifiably false. If PV says things that are commonly known to be true I won't pull a 180. It's when they create a new narrative using information that can't be readily verified that they're going to lose my faith in what they're saying. And because he has a history of massaging the truth, I give him a smaller leash before I nope out.

The "war" is always for the middle. Both side's base isn't likely to change parties. Also, lol it is the best kind.

TIL I am all of America.

My assertion was based on past knowledge of PV's style of journalism. Because I know the MO of the guy, his burden of proof is higher for them to be considered legitimate. I am not arguing for CNN, I am against PV.

When it comes to Trump coverage... It's intellectually dishonest to blanket fox as completely fair and balanced because their Trump coverage is 50/50. And yeah, watching the GOP fumble around legislatively isn't making anyone happy. I'd suggest more bipartisanship personally.

The fallacy of your argument is it assumes we never learn from our mistakes. If I lie to you ten times but tell you the truth the 11th you're less likely to believe me. Because you've learned that I'm untrustworthy. I'm applying this logic to PV.

Fair point on birtherism. The tea party while not a fox News invention certainly had its fans flamed by it though and could be seen as one of the driving factors behind the sea of red the states happening over the next eight years.

Blanket statement: 24 hour news networks push a ratings first agenda. CNN pushing a narrative that trump is a Russian conspirator drives rating from those disillusioned by the results of 2016 in the same way allowing trump's birtherism and the tea party rise did in 2008. I'm not condoning the behavior, but it does have a certain symmetry to it. I said this elsewhere but it bears repeating. I truly have no use for 24 hour news networks unless something big happens. I cannot fathom watching it on a nightly basis. How boring.

Yes. Saying someone is without credibility is ad hominem as it attacks the person. If a person doesn't have credibility, why should their opinions be taken seriously? This is how anti vaccination people and flat earthers are allowed to waste our time.

Thank you for responding in a civilized manner. I'll admit my personal bias clouds my opinion of anything that PV put out. I think his past makes him an untrustworthy source. That being said, there are only two reasonable conclusions any reasonable person can make right now about the situation. 1. The DNC had a shit ton of emails leaked. 2. The amount of illegitimate news that flowed throughout the election was insane. It should be the responsibility of congress to figure out how it happened and how to combat it in the future. If there anything amounting to any campaign colluding with a foreign country/illegal entity throughout this process, it should be prosecuted without mercy.. Other than that, there is little anyone can claim to be concrete.

That's what I thought. You don't have any.

Still waiting on that proof to change my opinion. Come on, I'm sure you have some. I mean if you're so sure I'm wrong there has to be a good reason.

It depends on what you use it for. CNN as a television station is terrible. But generally I think that of all the news channels. They over analyze things and aren't interested in participating in long form investigative journalism. People that get get their opinions exclusively from news commentators are brainless sheep incapable of thinking for themselves. But if I need to know about a huge news story (like a disaster somewhere in the world) they're as good as anything.

Because it's not real and isn't news.